2011-04-26, 12:51 | Link #841 |
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And that shows QB's race do not have mastery over the system or emotion conversion technology. They have to abide by certain rules when using the technology or the system, and once it is established, they cannot change it. Only entities like Madoka Goddess using Wish granted by system can rewrite the rules.
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2011-04-26, 13:07 | Link #842 |
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From Kyubei's consistent usage of "lighting" the soul gem, i believe that they aren't the ones who fufil the wish. All they do is to light the candle.
How big the candle is, is how powerful and far reaching the wish is. Obviously in Madoka's case, its size is gigantic. Why would Kyubei light a candle as massive as Madoka's? Again from Kyubei's consistent position, they don't care how big the candle is because they think the wish will be small or logical (probably Kyubei would be thinking the wish is "i wish to stop WN") and in the end on witch transformation, the payoff will be there. Given how stupified Kyubei's VA made him sound, obviously the logical incubators never considered such an illogical wish but as the process of lighting had already started, Kyubei may not have been capable of stopping it |
2011-04-28, 07:08 | Link #843 | |
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1. Witches make familiars that become new Witches. and 2. QB works as hard as he can to pick girls who are more likely to become witches. Since QB desires more witches to get the energy, the Witch population would never be under control. This wouldn't be a problem if QB deliberately try to do thing sustainably by making sure there isn't too many Witches, but he does not. QB is literally pushing the system to the brink by his actions, not so much deliberately but because he doesn't care. His is not God or Devil, he doesn't care about humanity enough to be either. Humans are just a statistic to him. The ending took the choice from QB. Now, the new system means he needs Magical Girls to survive as long as they can in order to kill more monsters. There is no longer a conflict of interest like back in the old world. EDIT: Finally, a proper term to describe Madoka as a show. A show about a contract dealer who had a conflict of interest with his customers.
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2011-04-28, 21:34 | Link #845 | |
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2011-04-28, 21:39 | Link #846 | |
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Also, the idea of a past Puella Magi having power comparable to timeline 5 Madoka's is extremely unlikely. Most notably Kyubey has said several times that she has the most potential of any girl he has ever met, so while a girl with the power to rewrite parts of the system might not be impossible, one with the power to rewrite it on the level that Madoka did probably is impossible. |
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Still, your point has merit, and I can't entirely dismiss it. If any change to the system requires a similar reconstruction (which in fact all but nullifies the possibility of anybody but Madoka making such a wish in the first place), then he would indeed not have any recollection of it. Quote:
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2011-04-29, 01:50 | Link #849 |
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I no longer necessarily consider Kyubey a villain, if I ever did. I know it's been said before the finale, but the fact that Kyubey can't relate to human emotions just occurred to me, when he compared Puella Magi to cattle. Kyubey... I love Kyubey.
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2011-04-29, 06:35 | Link #851 | |
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2011-05-01, 13:15 | Link #852 |
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Something I never really caught on to is how exactly Kyubey gets around to collecting the energy. The anti-entropy energy is released when PM turn into witches, right? Are the grief seeds like everlasting batteries? That means Kyubey counts on the PM to collect them and feed them to him once they're crictical...
But a whole bunch of energy was released when Sayaka transformed, is that what Kyubey was talking about? Does it not matter where the energy goes, only that it's released into the universe? Sorry if this was obvious to others, I just didn't get this one part. |
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2011-05-01, 15:45 | Link #855 |
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Given their goal really is just to delay/stop entropy, then the energy simply being created from the process and then released into the universe is all that is necessary for that goal, so there isn't a need for Kyubey to collect it. While Kyubey assumed keeps "collecting/eating" the used up grief seeds, because witches being revived doesn't create energy the same way as the transformation does, thus it wouldn't be in his interest to allow it.
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2011-05-01, 21:17 | Link #856 |
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That's an interesting idea. But Kyubei explicitly says that the Incubators collect the energy. So, your idea doesn't fit.
Further more, he has a set quota. Simply releasing the energy into the universe would require constant infusions to keep entropy at bay. It's possible that they need X amount of energy to "charge up" some mechanism that can then hold entropy at bay indefinitely. |
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The death of the universe via Entropy occurs due to the assumed expanding universe causing a point in time where the density of energy is so low that nothing is able to happen anymore[0° K] in the universe, thus "The Heat of the universe" via entropy; which is completely delayed by there simply more energy in the universe, so the idea of them needing some device to do it doesn't really make sense, as if it was powered by some amount of energy they wouldn't need the magical girl system; they need the emotion energy because it creates energy that shouldn't exist by the laws of entropy since it states that energy can't be created, or destroyed. Which delays the heat death of universe . Thus Kyubey probably says "collects" because it's easier to explain to the girls that way, since we're never shown any actual hints of kyubey collecting during the series.
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2011-05-01, 22:54 | Link #859 |
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He if mentioned the energy release from the transformation into a witch, then he would have given away something he didn't want to tell the girls, while saying "collecting" would be a clever use of words to explain it while keeping the truth hidden. Which makes sense to me since Kyubey commonly spoke in half-truths.
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