2011-08-25, 18:29 | Link #3782 | |
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But, what will happen with the lightning MCF? I think electricity is a bit more auto-sustentable kind of energy than combustion.
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2011-08-25, 18:59 | Link #3783 |
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Wouldn`t control be an issue with lightning ?
Short range, ok. But in long range... Electricity like to go the eaiest way, not the straight way. Arnage`s little gun worked wonders for knocking out Thoma.
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2011-08-25, 20:33 | Link #3787 |
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What is there to heal from knockout gas? In fiction, nothing. It's not harming the body. It's not damaging anything.
If losing consciousness was hurting someone, then what does that say about Nanoha's magic? That would contradict everything we have been told about it. EC virus is a regen boost, not a foreign substance resist strat. |
2011-08-25, 20:48 | Link #3789 | |
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It's similar to Mana Conversion Affinity, even if their description describe it as a "magic to conventional energy instant conversion" it still fails against Eclipse mostly "Because Tsuzuki Says So".
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2011-08-25, 20:50 | Link #3790 | |
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Even that one is highly suspect, and dependent on who's writing Wolverine. The same guy who, from one author will completely regenerate in several hours from his entire body being atomized by a nuke, and who can be incapacitated for something like a day from being shot in the eye with another author.
No, I'm comfortable knowing that the Eclipse isn't invincible. Besides, magical universe R&D. If Isis is any kind of indication, manufacturers have plenty of fun coming up with chemicals that take a nice long leak on the law of thermodynamics. And Fortis being into chemistry would at least give him some defining role or other. EDIT: Quote:
Just because a Fire Ring from Signum didn't work doesn't mean that MCF can't work against EC. DeVille and Cypha could not break Bardiche. Even with DeVille's big ass axe, that weapon that is supreme among cutting weapons, you know? |
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2011-08-25, 21:04 | Link #3791 | ||
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Which gives some worries about Laevatein. According to the DVD booklets of StrikerS, intelligent devices are special because they can grow up and adapt to various upgrades in order to develop along with their masters. but nothing like that was mentioned about Armed Devices, which greatly reduces any possibilities for the Wolks weapons to be upgraded(which also explains why Vita received a new hammer instead of upgrading graf Eisen). Ugly AEC-sword incoming T-T
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2011-08-25, 21:07 | Link #3792 |
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Since when was it confirmed that the Esquad Huckebein could shrug off an Arc-En-Ciel? They've only fired the Augusto at it from what we've seen, and the Arc-En-Ciel itself rips a hole in dimensions and lets the resulting rift make short work of the target, so it's not actually using magic to assault the target directly.
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2011-08-25, 21:16 | Link #3793 | |
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But on the side....poor Agito, no fans, no one cares about you. |
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2011-08-25, 21:54 | Link #3794 |
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Well, as we know in Chapter 12 Fate have much faster movement than Deville. Plus Signum managed to deliver a powerful blow to Cypha before she uses the full power to curb-stomp her. In my opinion, as strong as any Eclipse effect they have, there must be some disadvantages as well.
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2011-08-25, 22:18 | Link #3795 |
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I don`t think Deville was ever "fast".(Not a slug either though.)
I made for speed with teleportations to blank spots. If you don`t know of that skill, you are pretty much screw. Deville got inside the Fortress defenses pretty easily... Better fix that in your bigger whatever, Nanoha.
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2011-08-25, 22:43 | Link #3796 | |
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2011-08-25, 23:17 | Link #3797 | |
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And even if it could negate what causes the initial rift, just fire it right next to the Esquad. It's not like it has anti-magic batteries or anything.
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2011-08-25, 23:43 | Link #3798 | ||
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It's not that people don't like her. It's more the fact that we know she's pretty screwed, she's a device designed to improve mana procesing and linking which are the exact two things Eclipse is specialized in cancelling. She also have a fire MCF which also proven useless against and Eclipse Driver. So, Agito's utility in battle against the Hucks is zero.
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Still, the Esquad Huckebein is capable of interdimensional transfer and so far the Hucks have worked near poblated areas which made difficult such attempts. I wonder if Curren is councsiopus of such possibility and makes that movements on purpouse.
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