Kashimashi ~Girl Meets Girl~ Manga Discussion

[Blimey]

My god, if the prospect of DEATH isn't enough to prompt Hazumu into making a decision between Tomari or Yasuna, then that is one character that needs to get his/her priorities straight.

[riznar]

Originally Posted by Blimey

My god, if the prospect of DEATH isn't enough to prompt Hazumu into making a decision between Tomari or Yasuna, then that is one character that needs to get his/her priorities straight.

Someone mentioned in a spoiler...

Spoiler:

about the fate merging thing, but it hasn't appeared in the manga yet, so I don't think Hazumu knows she can be saved yet.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by riznar

....sometimes I feel the writing is outright terrible, but the chapters always impact me emotionally.

This may be because "good" writing is not always that good, and "bad" writing is sometimes more effective. Writing, like any art, involves more magic than science. At least, that's how I comfort myself when I enjoy "bad" novels more than "good" ones.

[Blimey]

Originally Posted by riznar

Someone mentioned in a spoiler...

Spoiler:

about the fate merging thing, but it hasn't appeared in the manga yet, so I don't think Hazumu knows she can be saved yet.

Spoiler:

I don't know if Hazumu's supposed to know (at least, accoriding to Mr. Alien, it's best that she doesn't know). I mean, if I were in Hazumu's position practically at death's door, I would at least like to give some resolve to this relationship issue among other things. It does seem like Hazumu's trying to do everything she's wanted to do before the month is over (like bake cookies with Mom).

[KaneDragon]

And hawt yuri action isn't on the list? -_-;;

[riznar]

Hey! Chapter 23 was released!

[riznar]

After rereading chapters 21-23, I've come to this conclusion:

Hazumu needs to grow enough as a person to be able make her choice, I don't think it will actually matter what choice she makes(Yasuna, Tomari, or Both). She just needs to make it with all her heart and have the choice accepted and her love returned. In any case the combined willpower should be enough to help her survive. The questions will be:

What choice does Hazumu make?
How does she survive her impending doom?

And interesting twist would be that if sharing the fate element was dangerous to the girl she was sharing with, like Hazumu will be shot at and her fate girl will take the bullet for her. In this case, we might see a threesome if somehow the fate element is fatal to at least one of any two people, but the three of them will pull it off.

As for the discussion about the quality of the writing, I think the author is fantastic about making us care about the characters and conveying their emotions, but some of the plot points seem forced. I can forgive the initial alien-crash, because anime is often based on strange premises, but the fate-element thing seems to be a stretch. Though as the story progresses more I kinda like it more as an interesting plot device. It's basically given Hazumu an imperfect view of her future, I just wish it hadn't come out of left field.


And I really hope the next few chapters are a series of pictures with each of Hazumu's friends highlighted at a time. I really like the cover for chapter 23.

[Vexx]

yeah.... one "deux ex machina" to get the plot started... ok... two? iffy ... one more and they're getting as bad as lousy ancient Greek writers who had the gods jump in anytime they got stuck in a plot corner.

[Catgirls]

Originally Posted by riznar

Hey! Chapter 23 was released!

Yep. Stealing format from NeoSam:

Volume 4 chapter 23 is out.
Torrent available here: Manganews.

I'm not sure what to make of these past few chapters. Hrmmm....

[Vexx]

Ya know.... I'm kind of with Yasuna's thinking here (if I followed the subtext). These aliens have blatantly screwed up at least twice -- once when they smucked Hazumu v1.0 and repeated small times by not taking the strength of love or friendship into account.

Spoiler:

If I were Hazumu's friend, I'd be cocking my eyebrow at their confidence in the "fate element" (which I'm assuming is some sort of statistical result from projecting destinies along the spacetime continuum ... uh, never mind - its kind of stupid to try and rationalize since I doubt the writers are physicists).
Yasuna's thinking appears to be: if I love her strongly enough, it'll carry Hazumu through. Her other friends appear to be having some trouble "living in the moment" since they're just accepting the alien's prediction as inevitable.

Lots of nice artwork in the last two chapters.... I am glad to see Asuta getting more serious treatment than he got in the anime, even if he is still a bit comical.

[BBOvenGuy]

I think it's interesting that the manga has made Yasuna the strong one responding to Hazumu being under threat, while the anime gave Yasuna the threat and had Hazumu step up in response to it. But either way, it's Yasuna and Hazumu who are getting together. Maybe this really has been their love story all along.

[NeoSam]

Yay Yay a Kasimasi Official Fan Book will be released some time this month (April 2006)

Here's its cover:



So cute moe~

Done by: Dengeki Daioh Editorial Department

I love you Dengeki Daioh guys ( best seinen magazine ever :P )

[Blimey]

Fan book is not the same as Doujinshi, yes?

[NeoSam]

Originally Posted by Blimey

Fan book is not the same as Doujinshi, yes?

Of course not a doujinshi.

This fanbook is made by the same guys that edit the manga in the seinen manga magazine Dengeki Daioh, yes the magazine that Kashimashi manga is serialized in

So expect cute moe~ illustrations in this fan book (maybe also interviews with the voice actors, director, ...)

[NeoSam]

Volume 4 chapter 24 is out

Torrent is available here: Manganews.

[Catgirls]

Originally Posted by NeoSam

Volume 4 chapter 24 is out

A fantastic chapter. This is a Tomari chapter for all you Tomari fans. She so struggles to be strong and ends up being quite cute.

[Vexx]

Agreed.... Tomari is just about beside herself .... explosion of emotion ... take cover.

I still think the whole "everyone accepts it" (except Tomari) is just strange.... they seem to view an alien who has screwed up before as ultimate authority too easily.
Ah well....

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by Vexx

.... they seem to view an alien who has screwed up before as ultimate authority too easily.
Ah well....

As it's been noted, the alien did not screw up before. Hazumu's fate ended that day, the day of the crash. If no crash, he would have died in another manner, perhaps choking on the bone of his beloved porkchops, or falling into that hole in his front yard.

The point is, his life as a man was over. The computer could not regenerate a man whose fate had been met. But it found that if it reconstructed him as a female, it could somehow [I'm not too clear on this part] squeeze out a temporary fate for him/her. [Perhaps Hazumu is alreay "fate-sharing" with someone else, someone whose fate will be met in one month].

Other than the crash itself, he didn't screw up.

[Vexx]

ahhh, I see (actually I see in the manga what you mean... it was just worded somewhat ambiguously to me, perhaps because they're really not explaining this pseudo-science fate element very well. I guess its like that old Heinlein story about the guy who had a machine that determined the patient's "4 dimensional length" and therefore the exact end of life ... not why/how, just when.

Frankly, I'd still be questioning him a bit harder but I suppose its a bit of cultural fatalism to assume "wiser" people always get it right. At the least, I'd be saying - "hey wait a minute, he snuffed at the crash but we still have Hazumu with us... is there some way to work that angle again?" ... but then the story would move too fast I guess
I am liking the additional depth the manga gives to each character so I'm kind of anxious to see who gets some kind of idea first rather than just accepting fate.

[NeoSam]

Ok >.< Yay volume 4 chapter 25 is out

Torrent here: Manganews.