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View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 23 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 18 | 34.62% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 17 | 32.69% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 23.08% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 7.69% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.92% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2007-09-02, 15:09 | Link #61 | ||||
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2007-09-02, 15:35 | Link #62 | |||
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2007-09-02, 15:36 | Link #63 |
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Let's put it this way - the show's all right for the genre (magical girl-ish), but not as good as the previous seasons, which were good enough that a lot of people who don't have a lot of patience with the genre normally were attracted to it.
The writing's not as good in the new season. The new characters aren't all that compelling, though I do like Subaru and Tea. The development of the villains, which was absolutely beautifully done in A's and pretty damn good in the original season, is lacking almost altogether in Strikers. It's fair to say that we're setting a high bar for the series - we are, and the first two seasons of Nanoha were friggin' good - but it's also fair to say that Strikers ain't clearing that bar. But that's not ep 23 commentary. ;p As far as that goes, it's not so bad that I'm not willing to let it play out, and there's still potential for a good ending - which is something that A's did not do well, so it could end up "each has its own strengths" eventually. And the animation's improving greatly with the DVD releases, thank goodness. So yeah, we can pick at it and pick at it, and certainly there's problems, but it's too early to throw up one's hands in despair... |
2007-09-02, 15:39 | Link #64 | |
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2007-09-02, 15:57 | Link #65 |
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Join Date: May 2007
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My thoughts on episode 23. Fewer flashbacks would have helped with the pacing. The second and third seemed extraneous. It didn't disappoint me but to be honest, I wasn't expecting a whole lot by this point.
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2007-09-02, 16:00 | Link #66 |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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On the whole, i am going to sat the overall quality of StrikerS is lacking in almost all of the areas. From the very get go it has been plagued with pacing problems. The screentime and coverage characters get is uneven (Caro and Erio are not exactly well developed (though could be worse), despite being a part of the main cast) and the direction and focus of the show is questionable. Doesn't help the show is often wasting time (which could have been put to good use elsewhere) on seemingly unimportant things and their blunt method of storytelling.
They have introduced so many characters they simply don't know what to do with them. As a result we have villains about whom we couldn't care less about (As it is now, the 'bad guys' are far less developed than Wolkenritter were 6 episodes in to A's) and character interactions that make little sense, even though they should have. (Hello Lutecia and Lightning squad). StrikerS feels like a project that was intended to be of an epic scale, but proved to be beyond the abilities of scriptwriters to pull off in a satisfying manner. What we have as a result is unclear direction, shaky plot and somewhat forced character interactions. Quantity is not better than quality when setting up characters that are supposed to form the core of the story. StrikerS having manga and sound stages does not help any way either - if i have to resort to other sources in order to get the whole enjoyment/understanding out of the show, it is a huge flaw right then and there. As it is now, the show is absolutely mediocre on its own, and it certainly does not live up to its predecessors. I think calling it one of the biggest letdowns of the season wouldn't be much of a stretch, considering people were looking towards this quite a bit.
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2007-09-02, 16:05 | Link #67 |
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All those who saw this surprise coming(You know what I'm talking about), please raise your hands.....
I see...No one.... *Grins* And so, they start falling like crazy! God damn perfect for a perfect surprise! Still waiting for the ultimate surprise though!! But wait, My Fate is still under wraps?!!! What F*****??!! I love Nanoha! Last edited by Demon Eyes; 2007-09-02 at 16:23. |
2007-09-02, 17:03 | Link #70 | |
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I agree, I don't like that arc, but only because it took too long. But I tolerate it because it's only 2 episodes and I had hoped that it would be the end of Stars development.
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2007-09-02, 17:15 | Link #71 |
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I see what you mean. You DO accept that StrikerS has many faults, but the only reason why you can still enjoy it is because your expectation of it has been alot lower than the rest of us here... Maybe because we value different things, but the amount and the depth of those mistakes is more than I (And alot others) can accept. Favoring only certain main characters? Might as well get rid of the rest! Okay, abit extreme... The point is, they've messed up, and the only reason why you're still okay with it, is because you don't find it as serious... Probably because all you're interested in is Nanoha, Fate, Subaru, Teana... Well, I like character interaction too, where my Lutecia/Erio/Caro? P.S - Yeah, numbers are important... Look at the NxF fans
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2007-09-02, 17:21 | Link #73 | ||
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It's the only 'shocking' card up their sleeves now, might as well play it. Yup, these are the NxF fans...
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2007-09-02, 17:28 | Link #74 | |
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Don't get me started on my old "Nanoha is not the anime for death" rant again... A good episode, though, and Teana's part was indeed good, along with Subaru's skirmish...one question remains... Where in the blue heck is Cinque? And Due for that matter? Alright, so it's only been three episodes since Due first showed up, but it's been 6 now, maybe 7, for Cinque. What's taking them? Both have to show up some time soon. Last edited by Dream_Traveller; 2007-09-02 at 17:44. |
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2007-09-02, 17:31 | Link #75 | |
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Gosh I see that everyone seems to agree what a letdown this has been; I'm no different. Everything has been discussed to pieces, so once I watch the RAW later I'll be back.
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2007-09-02, 17:47 | Link #78 |
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Damn straight what happened to the Caro/Erio/Lutecia interactions? What happened to lone island episode....Well it could've happened . Seemed like there was plenty of chance for that kind've stuff around 11/12. But then they brought in Vivio and things just shifted and dropped the Lightning Squad. Caro got an episode with flashbacks to cover her past and why she was there and eventually Erio got a short flashback and that was about it. WIth some work they could've made the attempt to convert Lutecia actually make sense.
Though it's episode 23 seems we've hit the series overall discussion as well here. Just seems like the Chrono getting married to Amy was the tip of the iceberg on things I wasn't satisfied with here. Not that I dislike Subaru and Teana, but I think they had did hit some issues with StrikerS. In the end one good thing coming from StrikerS though is that it made me go and watch the first two series which wouldn't have happened otherwise. Spoiler for Ep Thought:
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2007-09-02, 17:49 | Link #79 |
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Looking forward to the next episode Haha...or maybe she's going to save Sein from Sister Schach...highly likely. Either that or Due is going to 'seduce' Schach and then stab her from behind
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2007-09-02, 18:41 | Link #80 |
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The important parts of the episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieKBp7zYMqA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WLaXwjNRQo Well, minus Vivio. Caps, etc. http://blog.seiha.org/?p=312 |
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