2012-03-14, 19:29 | Link #41 | |
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Donflamingo - CoA, since he was able to stop crocodile with his foot during the war. Blackbeard - Have not seen. Crocodile - Have not seen. Hancock - CoC. Kuma - Have not seen. Jinbe - Have not seen. Not sure here. Law - Have not seen. Mihawk - Have not seen. Moriah - Have not seen. That being said, it is the New World so haki may be more of the norm since there will be more activity here. Mihawk did meet shanks regarding luffy's bounty increase. Agreed with the point on "noticing" when people are around. Not noticing doesn't mean no haki. This is a specific type of haki, CoO I think. Haki isn't necessary when fighting logia though, it depends on the type of power one possesses. Without a devil fruit its probably necessity. But with one, then it depends on your own power. |
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2012-03-14, 19:31 | Link #42 |
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Your talking about an Island with people using it. How long have they been using it. We know law did not have Haki before the two years. Undertaker also mention that difficulty of using the Haki. If this takes time to use and understand then how far along is Law if he has it? Second Luffy already and natural talent for Haki and he had a teacher who had a solid understanding of haki. So his two years of training is reasonable. If Law did not have someone who trained him the he might be learning like everyone else, by experience. Second It not weather Law is smart or not, its weather he has the luxury of avoiding the fight or not. |
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Most of the old shichibukai didn't demonstrate having it and yes with most of the action it probably wasn't necessary anyways. So maybe in the new world it becomes more popular, but I think those that possess it will need it to add robustness to their fighting options. |
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2012-03-14, 20:01 | Link #44 | |
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Law most likely doesn't posess Haki. He will have to figure out another way to beat Smoker. I think Law will figure something out, to get out of this, or he will be saved by some other disturbance.
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2012-03-14, 23:15 | Link #46 |
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I don't think Shichibukai job is to loot or do odd jobs.
Shichibukai is an elite unite for the WG respond only to the WG. The looting is more like a tribute/contribution the Shichibukai made to the WG so they could keep the Shichibukai title and privileges. Well, aside from giving those contributions to the WG their other purpose is basically to maintain the balance between the three big forces ( Yonkou - Marines - Shichibukai ). Although Kuma might be an exception since he was basically the WG pawn, presumably because of some contracts that was made.
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2012-03-14, 23:38 | Link #47 |
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Good ol Smokey. This should be an interesting little quarrel, Smoker's true merit will be tested this arc, since I'm sure we will see him take a few haki blows, but like others have said, he probably knows how to use it as well and even if he doesn't, there's still the sea stone jutte he carries.
In fact, I could see Smoker ending Law's room with the Jutte if no one interferes before hand, or Law can't fend Smoker off himself. Also... It seems inevitable now. Kung Fu Chopper vs Beppo! Last edited by Tommy; 2012-03-14 at 23:49. |
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BTW, Hancock at least is confirmed of CoA as well when she kicked the crap out of Smoker. Quote:
I doubt the level and mastery of Haki is definitely debatable.
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Ah, okay then, I understand. Thanks for clarifying that, then. In that case I'll take your word for it and assume that your name suggestions are more likely, as well. Quote:
Yeah, I'm curious about his crew, as well (especially Bepo). Moria and Hancock already proved that it's not necessary for a pirate to ditch their crew in order to be granted amnesty, so it's odd to see that Law is apparently alone so far. I mean, of course those guys could still be around the island somewhere, but one would think that they'd at least be close by, especially with all the crazy dangerous stuff going on at that place..... As for the haki argument, I don't really feel like getting into that now (we have enough of those as it is), but as I said before, Law possessing it should be very much plausible since it's basically a "minimum requirement" of sorts for those who want to conquer the NW. That being said, just being capable of using haki alone doesn't guarantee a victory against Smoker (who, being a VA, should have acquired a certain degree of aptitude for that power, as well.....). And back to the frozen prisoners: I think the idea of them being the pirates whose hearts were sent to the WG is an interesting idea as well, along with them being the level 6 prisoners from Impel Down. In fact, Law volunteering to hunt down those monsters would be more than good enough reason for him to be granted amnesty. Of course, that's only considering this theory is proven to be correct..... |
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2012-03-15, 09:47 | Link #50 | |
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----- Looks like Law really upgraded his "room" technique. Another thing to note is that he used the finger with "T" on it to use his "Tact" move. I won't be surprised in the slightest if he has a move for each letter of the word "DEATH".
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2012-03-15, 09:50 | Link #51 | |
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So.... what letter in "DEATH" does "shambles" start with? |
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2012-03-15, 10:08 | Link #53 | |
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Not sure about the finger idea, what about the 'S' for Shambles? |
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BTW if that thought turns out correct, who wants to see him use the "A" finger?
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2012-03-16, 10:43 | Link #57 | |
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It's not exactly absolute immunity, though. After all, if Smoker is able to confirm that Law is up to something fishy at PH (and frankly, it's hard not to suspect him of something considering all the strange stuff we've seen at the island so far), then he'll be be free to (pardon the pun) smoke him out as he wishes..... BTW, something I meant to address before: I saw some people mention how strange it was that Law seemed unable to sense the Straw-Hats' presence at PH if he were capable of using haki. Thing is, Rayleigh already pointed out during his lecture that some people are better-adapted to one form of haki over another, so his CoO ability may not be all that great if he really couldn't sense Luffy and co. on the island..... |
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2012-03-16, 14:07 | Link #58 |
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But in order to use it like Luffy, Shanks, Rayleigh, and other strong haki users, you have to know what you are doing, awareness of its existence, and have a concept of it. Luffy before his training used the king haki out of a fit. He didn't even know he had it. It would be like giving a medieval knight a gun and not telling him how to use it or what it is for. The knight might throw the gun at his enemy or charge and use it has a melee weapon. But if you train him and teach him how to hide behind the objects and shoot the gun then he becomes lethal. If Law has not had the extensive training or even aware of Haki that Luffy has had then I don't see Law pulling some major haki abilities unless he had someone with solid understanding in haki train him. If anyone among the Supernovas and the Rookie marines who going to be on par with Luffy with haki after the two year time skip I think Coby and X Drake will be. |
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2012-03-16, 14:16 | Link #60 |
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What evidence do we have that Law knows haki? Coby at least has Garp, X Drake was a former Rear Admiral in the Marines, and Luffy had Rayleigh. All the people I have named at least have resources they can go to. If Law has Haki it will not be has extensive or even effective enough to use in battle like Luffy's haki. |
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