Utawarerumono Episode 21 Discussion / Poll

[Majek]

so it's getting crueler and bloodier. now i'm all hyped up for ep 22.

[PGilis]

Ooohhh... i'm dying to see this episode.

I rather pity Kuuya. She's being manipulated by Dii and that evil advicer of her, becoming a pawn and causing destruction in many countries... and now even in the country of her only (ex)-friend, Hakuoro.

Even worse, Hakuoro and his gang/harem have a really big problem in hands. I dunno if even Karura can fight those armored warriors.

Dii is really causing pain and destruction to everybody. Now i'm thinking if the crazy-laugh Niue was really bad and crazy, or was manipulated by him to become that way.

Just a question: WHAT THE HECK GENJIMARU IS DOING?!! He is a Evinkuruga, so he's supposed to be an ally of justice! Why he's not trying to stop Kuuya, that bad advicer or something like that?!

[Cardiac Glycoside]

Touka was an ally of justice, but indirectly had a hand in the massacre of Yamayura. So just because Genji is uber-badass/friendly to justice doesn't mean he's perfect. (Also, I believe he has other reasons for working for Kuuya).

[USCPharmacist]

Genjimaru the allie of Juctice? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

OK j/k but then again, what is justice and who decides them? (I am not talking about the real world) This is important in the anime later.

[Renegade334]

Originally Posted by PGilis

Just a question: WHAT THE HECK GENJIMARU IS DOING?!! He is a Evinkuruga, so he's supposed to be an ally of justice! Why he's not trying to stop Kuuya, that bad advicer or something like that?!

Spoiler for BIG spoiler:

From what I recall I think he has a covenant with one of Dark!Uitsuarunemitea's earlier reincarnations (I think it's the avatar that preceded Dii); in exchange for exceptional combat skills he was ordered to protect the Shakukoporus and ended up serving Kuuya as a twist of his contract.

So in that way he can only do as he is told, but not as he wishes.

[Cardiac Glycoside]

So much for my theory that Genji only does what he does because he's a inter-species pedophile.

[Newprimus]

*sigh*

Label those game spoilers please.

[Deathkillz]

omg omg...fear the rabbit ppl and their gundams >.<
even tho i dnt completely understand whts being sed i guess Kuuya is just trying to be a good emp but completely screwed up due to evil advisors...
so i take it the kingdom of the wing ppl got absolutly trashed
this is really exciting and i cnt w8 for ep 22...aruruu must live on!!! >.<

[PGilis]

So, Genjimaru will just do what he's told to? Even something evil like kill innocents or produce more Naruto episodes?

Poor Kuuya, that's what you got hiring the baddies Hawenkua "Bugs Bunny" and Dii "Woody Woodpecker" as your advicers.

And here i thought the only dark side she would turn into was Hakuoro's bedroom, late at night.

[Cardiac Glycoside]

Like I said, the fact that Evil Emo Bunny Man/Hawwie/Hawenkua and Evil Grunge Bunny Man/1/4th of Genjimaru's DNA/Hien are causing all this shit to happen is Kuuya's fault.

My prediction is

Spoiler:

that at the end of all this (if there is an end to this), Kuuya will end up either dead, abdicated or disgraced.

I really don't know what will happen but I just spoilerized it so I don't get any more complaints.

[Renegade334]

Originally Posted by PGilis

So, Genjimaru will just do what he's told to? Even something evil like kill innocents or produce more Naruto episodes?

Spoiler for Genjimaru's predicament:

Since he's under a holy contract he cannot go under the other contractee's wishes so whatever his opinion is he'll have to go with his orders...unless he chooses to...
1°) break the contract
2°) make a second contract that'd negate the first.

Poor Kuuya, that's what you got hiring the baddies Hawenkua "Bugs Bunny" and Dii "Woody Woodpecker" as your advicers.

Hauenkua I can understand why it's a bad choice but as for Dii she technically has no reason not to trust the one who gave her the means to finally provide protection to her people.

Spoiler for Dii's contribution:

He was the one who nicked the Av Kamuu from their original berthing place and gave them to Kuuya, after all

And here i thought the only dark side she would turn into was Hakuoro's bedroom, late at night.

Not to mention making Sakuya's life a living hell by debauching her.

Originally Posted by Cardiac Glycoside

Spoiler:

that at the end of all this (if there is an end to this), Kuuya will end up either dead, abdicated or disgraced.

Spoiler for Kuuya's future:

IIRC something much harsher though fitting (since she started warring around to protect her people <-- big clue, here) will happen to her...with certain repercussions directly on her mindset. I believe it's what's going to happen since it should introduce something present in the story's final arc...

Spoiler:

and in the OP, btw.

[Cardiac Glycoside]

Spoiler:

Let me guess--Kuuya's entire race will be slaughtered and she will be the one responsible?

I guess that falls under "disgraced."

I finally saw the Chinese sub (I don't read Chinese, lol) and at the end of the episode, I really disliked Hawenkua's extremely wide, laughing mouth--it made me want to stick the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch into it.

Also, what were Hien and Hawenkua arguing about?

[Renegade334]

@Cardiac Glycoside:

Spoiler for Kuuya's future:

IIRC the Shakukoporus' capital and its surroundings will be razed by...a certain weapon (aka the Amaterasu weapon, whose effects are seen in the OP - I think it's that big explosion), leaving Kuuya with nothing to protect anymore and...a possible mental breakdown, causing her to lose her mind. All I remember is that at the end of the game she was behaving like a toddler, saying, 'oh, here's a flower, oh, here's a bird', etc, etc.

[Angela Sanctisstessa]

OOa, wow must be some great impact over there

[Deathkillz]

big big spoiler there >.< ah well i do feel sorry for her if she is reduced to that state...

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Renegade334

@Cardiac Glycoside:

Spoiler for Kuuya's future:

IIRC the Shakukoporus' capital and its surroundings will be razed by...a certain weapon (aka the Amaterasu weapon, whose effects are seen in the OP - I think it's that big explosion), leaving Kuuya with nothing to protect anymore and...a possible mental breakdown, causing her to lose her mind. All I remember is that at the end of the game she was behaving like a toddler, saying, 'oh, here's a flower, oh, here's a bird', etc, etc.

Spoiler:

I am guessing this form kamyu awakening her Mutsumi powers and making contact with the satalitle canon

[Cyz]

Damn that Dii. I can't stand his attitude

[Newprimus]

Originally Posted by Cyz

Damn that Dii. I can't stand his attitude

But I like his voice. Sounds awesome. Thank god it didn't sound like some stereotypical Bishounen villain's.

[Cardiac Glycoside]

Spoiler for A question about Dii:

If the Rabbit People all hate Witsuarnemitea, why oh why do they have an Onkamiyamukai has an ally? (Unless Dii of course lied and said that he was a defector)

Spoiler:

Since I "read ahead" and know WHO Dii is, could it be that his plan is to have the Rabbit People annihilated because they worship an enemy god?

[0rphen21]

uuuuu why oh why do i have to wait a week b4 i can see Hakuoro go berserk on those gundams T__T