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00-Raiser · 2012-01-15, 03:46

Operation Stardust.

Vivid is year 79, and right now Force is in year 82.

Koveras Alvane · 2012-01-15, 04:06

StrikerS kicked off in April 0075 and culminated in September, albeit of the same year. Occam's razor suggests we are now in the year 0082 in Force thanks to the time skip.

Arcc · 2012-01-15, 12:27

I forget- have we seen any TSAB officials with beards this time around? That's always an important thing to keep an eye out for.

Koveras Alvane · 2012-01-15, 13:25

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Originally Posted by Arcc

I forget- have we seen any TSAB officials with beards this time around? That's always an important thing to keep an eye out for.

Nope, Hayate's New Army is so far the only presence the Bureau had in the manga.

Justin_Brett · 2012-01-15, 13:36

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I forget- have we seen any TSAB officials with beards this time around? That's always an important thing to keep an eye out for.

Considering Delaz legitimately trusted Cima, Hayate could probably outwit him even as she's typically written, so there's no real worry.

00-Raiser · 2012-01-15, 15:10

He was talking about Graham and Regius, not Delaz

Justin_Brett · 2012-01-15, 18:08

Well there's your problem: you need short-sighted patriotic villains to do Stardust Memory, not people who are smart.

rxrx · 2012-01-15, 20:11

Graham: Sacrifice one and save the rest. Alternate choice, nuke earth and the whole population dies with the book. Graham have tried his best but could not find a way to save both Hayate and prevent the book from going berserk at any moment.

Regeis: All resources and manpower are diverted away from the ground forces and given to the rest of the TSAB. Expending the number of administrated world despite lacking in manpower and resources worsen the problem of security. Rises the problem, nobody cares and ground security suffers, yet they shoulder all the blame when crap happens. Have no choice but to work with the brains. Not smart, but no other choices.

Short-sighted? I don't think so. The situation did not present an alternative.

Kuze · 2012-01-15, 20:27

Graham has a defensible position, but Regius was very short sighted in terms of what were the possible pitfalls and consequences of his actions, not to mention that he was trying to make deals with someone who could run circles around him with his own plots.

And had a almost perfect spy in the command structure. No, Regius was not blind to what was happening to the ground forces if no one did anything. But he was pretty blind to what he had gotten himself into.

rxrx · 2012-01-15, 20:31

Actually, I think Regeis knows what he was getting himself into. Remember, he shoved his best friend under the bus to try and get some defense for the ground. Too bad in the end the whole event was blamed on the brains and Regeis and thus no change to TSAB.

00-Raiser · 2012-01-15, 20:37

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Originally Posted by rxrx

Remember, he shoved his best friend under the bus to try and get some defense for the ground

Actually Regius tried to stop Zest from sticking his nose into things but Zest went in earlier than planned. Regius was quite horrified to hear Zest and his team were wiped out.

rxrx · 2012-01-15, 20:42

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Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Actually Regius tried to stop Zest from sticking his nose into things but Zest went in earlier than planned. Regius was quite horrified to hear Zest and his team were wiped out.

I see. Its's been sometime since I watch STS so thanks for clearing that up. In a way, Regius is a good boss as the ground's conditions improved when he and Zest was young.

Justin_Brett · 2012-01-15, 20:45

I was calling Delaz short-sighted and them smart, actually.

rxrx · 2012-01-15, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

I was calling Delaz short-sighted and them smart, actually.

Sorry for mistaking your sentence then. Then again, no villians in Gundam are smart. Delaz is a supporter of Gundam's would be Hitler, Sirroco is a genius whose looking down onto others cast his downfall, Haman I don't know why she is so popular. Char's the worse, a man so small and little that he started Char's counterattack which caused many lives just to get back at Amuro for killing Lala.

Why can't the Nanoha cast just mature into verterns like for example how different Amuro is when compared to in the original series and his CCA counterpart?

LostSome · 2012-01-16, 01:53

As unlikely as it might seem...
It would be an interesting development for Regius if we learn in Force that he knew about the Eclipse and its dangers
and was trying to do something about it since the rest of TSAB was not taking the treat seriously.
Why not Regius and Curren even knowing each other ?

Justin_Brett · 2012-01-16, 02:06

That would be pretty dumb, and kind of undermine the last season's villain just for the sake of going ooooh, what a puppet master Curren is!

LostSome · 2012-01-16, 02:18

I never said anything about Curren manipulating anyone.

Maybe doing jobs for him. Curren did jobs for Vandis before.
Besides, if Regius knew of the Eclipse incidents, knowing about the leader of the Hulks would be a given.

Justin_Brett · 2012-01-16, 02:54

Enough of one to affect StrikerS' plot before even being created in the first place, at any rate.

And would Regius really think that would be a good idea? At least Jail was sort of with the TSAB, Curren just does whatever she wants.

Keroko · 2012-01-16, 03:39

Curren doesn't have anything to offer him, since Eclipse users don't make the best law enforcers. Especially since at that time where a cure was still years away.

rxrx · 2012-01-16, 05:27

I dunno. Hired guns to deal with people the TSAB are not willing to mess with because of their powers, wealth and influence despite being criminals?

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Arcc Knight who says D'ni Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: -0,-0,-0,-0: The Brink of Time Age: 36	I forget- have we seen any TSAB officials with beards this time around? That's always an important thing to keep an eye out for. __________________ The more that you resist the tide The more it pulls you in The more you hang on for your life~

2012-01-15, 15:10	Link #5346
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	He was talking about Graham and Regius, not Delaz __________________

2012-01-16, 01:53	Link #5355
LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	As unlikely as it might seem... It would be an interesting development for Regius if we learn in Force that he knew about the Eclipse and its dangers and was trying to do something about it since the rest of TSAB was not taking the treat seriously. Why not Regius and Curren even knowing each other ? __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

2012-01-15, 18:08	Link #5347
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	Well there's your problem: you need short-sighted patriotic villains to do Stardust Memory, not people who are smart.

2012-01-15, 20:11	Link #5348
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Graham: Sacrifice one and save the rest. Alternate choice, nuke earth and the whole population dies with the book. Graham have tried his best but could not find a way to save both Hayate and prevent the book from going berserk at any moment. Regeis: All resources and manpower are diverted away from the ground forces and given to the rest of the TSAB. Expending the number of administrated world despite lacking in manpower and resources worsen the problem of security. Rises the problem, nobody cares and ground security suffers, yet they shoulder all the blame when crap happens. Have no choice but to work with the brains. Not smart, but no other choices. Short-sighted? I don't think so. The situation did not present an alternative.

2012-01-15, 20:27	Link #5349
Kuze Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011	Graham has a defensible position, but Regius was very short sighted in terms of what were the possible pitfalls and consequences of his actions, not to mention that he was trying to make deals with someone who could run circles around him with his own plots. And had a almost perfect spy in the command structure. No, Regius was not blind to what was happening to the ground forces if no one did anything. But he was pretty blind to what he had gotten himself into.

2012-01-15, 20:31	Link #5350
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Actually, I think Regeis knows what he was getting himself into. Remember, he shoved his best friend under the bus to try and get some defense for the ground. Too bad in the end the whole event was blamed on the brains and Regeis and thus no change to TSAB.

2012-01-15, 20:45	Link #5353
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	I was calling Delaz short-sighted and them smart, actually.

2012-01-16, 02:06	Link #5356
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	That would be pretty dumb, and kind of undermine the last season's villain just for the sake of going ooooh, what a puppet master Curren is!

2012-01-16, 02:18	Link #5357
LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	I never said anything about Curren manipulating anyone. Maybe doing jobs for him. Curren did jobs for Vandis before. Besides, if Regius knew of the Eclipse incidents, knowing about the leader of the Hulks would be a given. __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

2012-01-16, 02:54	Link #5358
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	Enough of one to affect StrikerS' plot before even being created in the first place, at any rate. And would Regius really think that would be a good idea? At least Jail was sort of with the TSAB, Curren just does whatever she wants.

2012-01-16, 03:39	Link #5359
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Curren doesn't have anything to offer him, since Eclipse users don't make the best law enforcers. Especially since at that time where a cure was still years away.

2012-01-16, 05:27	Link #5360
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	I dunno. Hired guns to deal with people the TSAB are not willing to mess with because of their powers, wealth and influence despite being criminals?