2013-01-04, 14:35 | Link #4822 | |
The Shermain
Join Date: Aug 2009
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As far as I'm concerned, the shounen romance drama genre is dead to me. And even though they've always been cliche, it doesn't mean you always have to accept that they will be cliche. Just because something has been predictable in the past, doesn't mean you have to accept that same garbage in the future. Otherwise, nothing ever changes or evolves and you get stuck with the same old shit year in and year out. Just look at the Call of Duty franchise. Spoiler:
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2013-01-04, 15:30 | Link #4823 | |
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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It just that once in a while shit like GE or KNIM shows up. At first it dazzles you with all this possibilities then it shits on itself and call it art, while devoted fans dance around praising it like god second coming. And you sit there in the corner wondering why the hell is it still published. Heck I'm gonna fast read trough the last chapter just to laugh at sheer ridiculousness of this title/author. Might do the same with knim. Also its not like I need to repeat myself that I dropped both of those mangas long time ago, and just sometimes read the threads ^^.
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2013-01-04, 15:35 | Link #4824 | |
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Cliches are everywhere and there is nothing that can change that. It's just the execution of the chliches and how they are used which make a story good or ridiculous. The story from Call of duty is just as much cliche-ridden like the story from Mario or any other game. When I read shounen romance dramas with the fokus on drama. I know eactly what to expect. Soap Opera alarm. When I read shounen romance comedies with the fokus on comedy. I know eactly what to expect. Silly and funny characters. When I read shounen harem romance stories with the focus on harem. I know exactly what to expect. Many girls trowing themselves at the maincharacter. And so on, and so on... And unlike some other people, I don't make myself false hopes that a sidecharachter that I like will end up with the protagonist. If it happenes, it's great. But I won't get butthurt if that doesn't happen. Genres exist for a reason, just like cliches exist for a reason. In my opinion a good example of a really good shounen romance story would be Shingetsutan Tsukihime, but it's still full of cliches. http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=511 |
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2013-01-04, 15:38 | Link #4825 | |
I'll end it before April.
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Abuot the last chapter : Spoiler for 156:
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2013-01-04, 16:31 | Link #4827 |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Because it IS a shounen manga. And it's not that I'm into it. I'm just explaining you how these tropes work. From now on you will be able to tell how these sort of manga develop and predict to some extent what will happen (provided you pay attention).
No. People who read shounen manga know what to expect. This manga in particular got boring because it lacked character development and the drama felt cheap, not because it used shounen manga tropes. It is a shounen manga after all.
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2013-01-04, 21:33 | Link #4830 |
Itadaki-nyaaa !!
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Overall, to me it was an entertaining series, nothing too special but also not as bad as some vocal minority makes it out to be. It was one of the few currently running series that tried a realistic approach to shoroms, which means no comedy focus, harem or supernatural bullshit. The art was rather unique (at least I don't know a similar style) and of high quality, especially the facial expressions, which conveyed emotions better than any dialogue. Points of criticism for me are the nerve-wrecking (later on, deadening) drama pace and Yuki's passiveness in the 2nd half. I, for my part, am looking forward to SK's next work. |
2013-01-04, 23:17 | Link #4834 |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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I don't see what's the problem with Kento. It's not like Seiji was a lot better really. Kento was an asshole but Seiji was a freaking irresponsible guy. Both were pretty much trash, but both supposedly got better at the end.
More importantly, Kento was so guilt-ridden when he came back to Shou that I don't think he would ever cheat on her again. All in all, Shou got a pretty good deal there, probably even better than Yuki.
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2013-01-04, 23:22 | Link #4835 |
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Shou is waaaay better than Yuki. Yuki was just an emo girl, who didn't know how to face her own stuff and came up with weird ideas and bad desicions about it.
In all fairness, Kento was pretty much a dick during the whole manga and still got a good ending. Seiji was good hearted during the whole thing and had to go through hell and back to get the good ending, Kento just sort of "got it" |
2013-01-04, 23:30 | Link #4836 | |
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He wasn't a main character so we didn't get to see his redemption arc, but that's the magaka's fault, not his. Besides, he did suffer and accident. No one deserved anything in this manga. All the character were pretty retarded, and only got "good endings" probably because the magaka needed to make the title relevant.
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2013-01-04, 23:46 | Link #4837 | |
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His character was a total dick so such scenario is more likely than him becoming a good guy for no reason whatsoever. The irony is that the author never really showed Yuki getting over her sexual trauma. Spoiler for Irony:
And Waven you are the vocal minority here. |
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2013-01-05, 00:04 | Link #4838 | |
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But there was a reason. When he lost her he realized that he couldn't live without her. It's a pretty cliched reason but it fits this manga. lol
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2013-01-05, 04:20 | Link #4839 | |
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Guilt never last long with humans. And in reality those who fucked up are likely to repeat that again and again. Shou's guy never showed that he can be a good guy, but he showed he can be a complete douche on multiple occasions, so I am supposed to believe that he will act something that I have never seen him act just because he is upset at that moment or believe that sooner or later he will be back to his old ways again because thats all what he showed? Sorry but second possibility seems much more plausible and realistic. |
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being good sucks, drama, kento boss, romance, shoukento, shounen, slice of life, yukiumi |
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