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View Poll Results: Madoka Magica - Episode 4 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 48 | 36.36% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 46 | 34.85% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 28 | 21.21% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 4.55% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.52% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.76% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.76% | |
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2011-01-28, 05:34 | Link #84 |
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Just finished watching the episode. The mood and the pacing is almost perfect for me. And the visuals are great this time around too. Homura and Madoka's little talk was pretty interesting. As for Sayaka, Sayaka's first fight wasn't that much. I'm hoping to see more of Sayaka as a mahou shoujo in the upcoming episodes.
9/10 from me.
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2011-01-28, 06:47 | Link #86 | |
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Characters are NOT stupid, they have been shown the price they have to pay for their wishes, and episode three have hammered the point by showing Mami's brutal demise. It's only natural to be relunctant. |
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2011-01-28, 06:49 | Link #87 | ||
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2011-01-28, 08:22 | Link #91 |
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They couldn't have telegraphed all those death flags any more obvious even if they tried.
If Madoka's correct than I'm sort of correct when I assumed that Mami did intend to have an Obi-Wan sacrifice in order to drill into their heads just how deathly serious this entire business of magic is. Perhaps she had a fatalistic desire to die, but wanted to do so in a way of warning others that whatever they choose, this is the reality they all have to face, so that they can think of their choices carefully unlike her who didn't have one. In a way she and Homura had the same thing in mind: to show Madoka just how potentially bleak their reality is, but unlike Homura who wants to stop her from becoming one by any means necessary, Mami wants her to have the freedom to choose but knowing the full details of such a reality if she so chooses to enter it. Of course now Sayaka's in the fray, and I'm going to assume that after seeing the decapitating demise of Mami knows full well what may happen to her if she makes even one mistake. It's not my place to question her reason because reasons are as unique and personal as the person who makes them, but I assume she does so with full realization that she can die any time. At this point besides the setup I see nothing that shows Madoka mirroring Faust in either Marlowe or Goethe's version (I'm not familiar with the even older ones), however based on what we've seen of the new girl, SHE in fact might actually fit the Faust (the worldly and abusive motif anyway).
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2011-01-28, 08:27 | Link #92 |
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MeoTwister5: What I saw in immediate parallel would be in the level of naivety in the scholar of the ivory tower and that 14 years old girl from the outset. Kyoko the amoral as described by Gen is not that of Faust to Goethe's eyes.
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2011-01-28, 08:44 | Link #93 |
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Well we don't exactly know what Kyoko's personality is. If she's the amoral, doomed for hell type, then she's more the Faust of Marlowe's play than Goethe's version.
I do of course agree that Madoka shows the naivete of a cloistered scholar thriving on worldly idealism. Madoka actually doesn't have to fall into immorality to get the parallelism across, as long as she is able to portray one who is nearly lost to the lust of power. The next question though is who's going ti be Gretchen's parallel. Sayaka?
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2011-01-28, 10:00 | Link #95 | |
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So, like yourself, that's my main issue with this episode, Kaijo. Other than that, I felt it was a pretty good episode, where a lot is revealed and hinted at. A lot of key hints were put out there this episode, that I'll probably delve into a bit more on the spoilers and speculations thread. One thing I'll mention here, though, is that the magical girl/witch system of this anime reminds me a fair bit of the flame haze/tomogara system of Shakugan no Shana. The two systems seem comparably "dark", and both are potentially very dangerous and lethal, for directly involved combatants as well as any innocent people caught in the crossfire. Oh, and the bit involving Hitomi and those other humans gone crazy; it reminded me a lot of some of the more notorious cult activities of the past decade or two. You could even say that Hitomi was about to drink the kool-aid.
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2011-01-28, 10:14 | Link #97 |
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Evidence for Kyubey as Evil: The evil music playing when Sayaka's boy realizes he can feel his hand again. Or am I making that up?
I'm pretty sure Homura and Madoka have some sort of connection. Any of the possibilities brought up (Madoka was wished by Homura out of being a Mahou Shoujo, Madoka died as a Mahou Shoujo and was wished to life smartly by Homura (stipulating that Madoka must be brought back in a particular condition), etc.) make sense. Also: The theory on Madoka eventually becoming a "pure" magical girl not tied to Kyubey... I'm tempted to call that new thing Puella Magi, even if that's just Latin for Mahou Shoujo. Probably just because of the false cognate of Puella and pure. Why have Puella Magi in the title, if the show's gonna call everyone Mahou Shoujo anyway?
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2011-01-28, 10:18 | Link #98 | |
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I really can't blame Madoka for choosing to stay away for that magical girl business.
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2011-01-28, 10:19 | Link #99 |
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I'm a rockstar, you're a musician. We meet at a concert. I bring you along for a world tour. During a concert, i fall and injure my throat. Doctors say that a transplant of your vocal cords would save me. You would instead replace me as being unable to speak for life Do you do it? That is the same reason why anyone would balk at wishing for Mami's resurrection |
2011-01-28, 10:27 | Link #100 | |
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