Gundam Seed/Seed Destiny General Discussion Thread

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

Then there's the mysterious Rusty Mackenzie who is killed in the first of SEED without even getting a line. Was there somebody famous going to voice him but he quitted at the last minute and said "Kill him"?

Doubt it. They just needed an excuse as to why only four Gundams were captured instead of all five, so Kira could acquire the last. So, five pilots, but one gets killed. Sounds simple enough to me.

[Washu-Chan]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

The Astray series made them more related by having Durandal as one of the guys behind the Ultimate Coordinator project. He knows of Kira's potential and wanted to have him at his side to develop it, but he later sees him as an enemy he must kill to carry out his Destiny Plan. In the finale, his comments about Kira already hinted he knew about his origins although it was obvious considering that Rey also knew.

However, the Astray mangas are secondary canon, as they're not written by Fukuda/Morosawa/Seed-Seed Destiny writing staff.

[Destined_Fate]

Stargazer getting a blu-ray?

Anyway, does anyone think they're trying to revive CE? Maybe for that "not" cancelled movie?

[kaito-kid]

Originally Posted by Washu-Chan

However, the Astray mangas are secondary canon, as they're not written by Fukuda/Morosawa/Seed-Seed Destiny writing staff.

It is the next best thing.. More so than other non official works and the video games.
So for the conversations we have here I think they can be used for reference.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Washu-Chan

It's about the circumstances of how Nicol died that changed; instead of Kira acting on self-defense, Nicol suicided himself by walking into Kira's sword, thus making it more of Nicol's fault than Kira.

I know about the strange change in how Blitz is destroyed. That's why I kinda confused with your term "Nicol swinging first", since there's nothing strange with Blitz swinging its lancer dart first (unlike "Greedo shoots first" in Star Wars).

[D-KLAC]

well give GS era is like 10yrs already yet it still got it give how some say the GS era is this generation or answer to finally match level of the uc gundam days.

yet still continue will other gundam try to stop era of GS in those the 00-ver rated & PG-age gundam just were failed experiments.

in now still really way going if plan another gundam series either they go do something really like a FEMALE MAIN LEAD gundam pilot or expect the full return of GS era.

[Znozzy]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

I know about the strange change in how Blitz is destroyed. That's why I kinda confused with your term "Nicol swinging first", since there's nothing strange with Blitz swinging its lancer dart first (unlike "Greedo shoots first" in Star Wars).

Next up in Gundam Seed Destiny: Shinn's family running into Freedom's beam.

Actually scratch that, they are going to run into Calamity's missaimed beam! Or have the forbidden deflect one of Freedoms, and have Shinn's famliy run into that!

Joking aside, im excited over the Destiny's remaster, i really, really hope they replace alot of stock footage for actual new ones so you could enjoy the action ab it more instead of having the feeling that you are rewatching Seed.

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Doubt it. They just needed an excuse as to why only four Gundams were captured instead of all five, so Kira could acquire the last. So, five pilots, but one gets killed. Sounds simple enough to me.

It's weird considering he was given his detailed character design and a mentioned personality in the compilation films that were supposed to trim the story and not expand it. He is remembered in the Special Edition endings.

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Stargazer getting a blu-ray?

Anyway, does anyone think they're trying to revive CE? Maybe for that "not" cancelled movie?

Looks like that. I mean two HD TV series, a video game, that CGI remake of Destiny's first opening, new action figures, and a new manga titled "Gundam SEED Re:" Some sites say that SEED Re: is supervised by one of the writers from the TV series.

[Washu-Chan]

Originally Posted by Znozzy

Next up in Gundam Seed Destiny: Shinn's family running into Freedom's beam.

Actually scratch that, they are going to run into Calamity's missaimed beam! Or have the forbidden deflect one of Freedoms, and have Shinn's famliy run into that!

They'll stick with the Phase 20 retcon of Shinn's family killed only by the Calamity, because they (the writers and/or Kira's fans) still want to portray the EA as LOL PUPPY-KICKING EVIL, and Kira as "Jesus Yamato".

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by Washu-Chan

They'll stick with the Phase 20 retcon of Shinn's family killed only by the Calamity, because they (the writers and/or Kira's fans) still want to portray the EA as LOL PUPPY-KICKING EVIL, and Kira as "Jesus Yamato".

If so they completely ruined it when they made Kira kill Stella (or when he destroyed Durandal's ship and try to shoot him)

[Znozzy]

Originally Posted by Washu-Chan

They'll stick with the Phase 20 retcon of Shinn's family killed only by the Calamity, because they (the writers and/or Kira's fans) still want to portray the EA as LOL PUPPY-KICKING EVIL, and Kira as "Jesus Yamato".

Honestly im pretty psyched over the destiny remaster, even if its not a remake, i really hope they use the budget to remove stock footage, because if they don't i can't see the point in remastering destiny, lol.

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

If so they completely ruined it when they made Kira kill Stella (or when he destroyed Durandal's ship and try to shoot him)

don't you mean when the Destroy tripped into Freedom's beam sabers?

[I Fail at Life]

That's what their not going to be focusing on. What they will try to do, is have Destiny's ep 34 be SEED's Remaster 27.

By making someone either look Better or Worse. I see it.

[Znozzy]

Well, they could change the Freedompreparestoslashduel'scockpit and REMASTER that scene, other than that the fight was fine.

... but you are probably right.

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by I Fail at Life

That's what their not going to be focusing on. What they will try to do, is have Destiny's ep 34 be SEED's Remaster 27.

By making someone either look Better or Worse. I see it.

I don't think that's possible considering how SEED's remaster 27 ended looking the same but with Nicole actually trying to use a weapon to fight. I mean, unarmed Nicole was really dumb for a Gundam scene.

[I Fail at Life]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

I don't think that's possible considering how SEED's remaster 27 ended looking the same but with Nicole actually trying to use a weapon to fight. I mean, unarmed Nicole was really dumb for a Gundam scene.

You would think, their going to add or remove "something" in that episode. Why not add... to the only fight in SEED/Destiny, where you broke your own Laws, Physics and Rules of your own Universe.... Just so the victor could win. Oh Please! Show us how great this Remaster is gonna be.

[Washu-Chan]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

If so they completely ruined it when they made Kira kill Stella (or when he destroyed Durandal's ship and try to shoot him)

I forgot to mention that F/M/Sunrise went back to the Freedom/Calamity crossfire in the TV Movies.

[kaito-kid]

Why are we talking about this? Who cares if Kira killed Shinn's family.. It was never relevant in the show, even Shinn didn't care.

[Aquaman OS]

I don't think it was ever their intention for Kira to have killed Shinn's family.

In the original preview trailer for Destiny, they were killed by just some random missiled fired from an EA ship. In the first episode, it was Freedom and Calamity firing at each other. And in a clip show ep it was just Calamity. I think another flashback showed something else.

So I'm pretty sure either they didn't intend for what was shown immediately before them getting blown up to have killed them, or they were trying to say that it was "the war" itself that killed them, and the specific killer is irrelevant (because really. They were simply caught in the crossfire. Whatever killed them never directly fired at them or even showed any awareness that they were there)

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by I Fail at Life

You would think, their going to add or remove "something" in that episode. Why not add... to the only fight in SEED/Destiny, where you broke your own Laws, Physics and Rules of your own Universe.... Just so the victor could win. Oh Please! Show us how great this Remaster is gonna be.

....What? Is it from... the unconcluded Freedom vs Destiny? Justice vs Destiny & Impulse as Shinn was going through some stress? Freedom vs Impuls-- wait Shinn's victory made sense. Emmm.. I'm lost.

[I Fail at Life]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

....What? Is it from... the unconcluded Freedom vs Destiny? Justice vs Destiny & Impulse as Shinn was going through some stress? Freedom vs Impuls-- wait Shinn's victory made sense. Emmm.. I'm lost.

How could you get confused or forget which fight i'm talking about? It's just a few post above yours. The same one you responded to ....