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2006-07-22, 04:33 | Link #123 | ||
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Tell it to the judge (Which is why 4kids changed it since they don't want to be anywhere near a court-room over this...Your logic doesn't matter when the purpose in doing it is to have 500% legality over that 1% chance they would get sued)They don't want their target audience (which they think are prepubescent drones) to have any confusion...Now if you wanna protest over the $hit that makes no sense like "Trace" (Ace) or "Chaser" (Smoker) i'd be the first one to suggest we carpool to that lynching, but if you call me up over "Zolo" I probably wouldn't pick up the phone...I have no probs with that one, and despite loathing 4kids, I actually see the credence for it...If kids ask their moms for a Zoro action-figure for x-mas and she brings back a blacked-masked mexican 4kids loses out...They want no doubt... Quote:
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2006-07-22, 19:22 | Link #124 | ||
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And really, I wasn't suggesting that One Piece should be completely un-edited but the level of editing it gets still is beyond what is necessary and done in a fashion that shows a lack of professionalism. Unless that navy logo on the marines is suppose to bounce around like that among other thoughtless forms of so-called editing. |
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2006-07-22, 19:59 | Link #125 | |
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4kids isn't DC or Marvel(nor do they have the same agenda)...They are in the business of "de-Japanesing" anime turning them into american cartoons with sensibilities they believe are true to America (and what they want American kids to accept--Like Zoro isn't Zorro)...I'm not saying what they are doing is brilliant by any stretch just the reasons behind it, which I'm not asking you to accept...I'm just telling you I personally have no problem with the name Zolo even if i have a problem with everything else those bastards do...
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2006-07-22, 20:32 | Link #126 | ||
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2006-07-22, 20:59 | Link #127 |
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Like I said 4kids goes even beyond the rules guidelines with their own BS, but there is a code to be followed...These codes are not the same as they were 10+ years ago when Batman aired...In today's overkill society where lawsuits, christian power-moves, and bad publicity rules the day you know it ain't the same as when we were kids(Then Janet Jackson's boob helped do everybody in)...Face it, 4kids ain't for us..There's nothing they can do to rationalize their horribleness(besides Zolo)... they have a demo they are going after and can give less than a $hit about loyal-fans (who are adults like me and you)...
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2006-07-22, 21:05 | Link #128 |
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Wasn't really trying to say the complete opposite in opinion. Just that you can't really blame the FCC for editing of material that still doesn't violate any actual lvl of sexuality or violence. None of this still connects nor explains how you have such amateur editing of things that shouldn't really be edited. Unless you are gonna suggest that these American based factors in society require cutting out english words like Anchor.
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2006-07-22, 21:32 | Link #129 |
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I'd have to go back and find the article, but it was a full guidlines for Fox 4-kids TV...Now if you know anything about legal wording there are things you can try and get away with and thing you can't..4kids president said in the article I read that there are certain guidelines concearning violence in the show, such as blood, weapons, and sexually suggestive stuff...Now nobody told them they had to change a gun into a water-pistol, make Nami's breasts dissapear or even buy ONE PIECE in the first place, but they can use that for protection...It's all about what 4kids thinks, not us...Go and wiki 4kids you should be able to find everything I did on fox's guidlines which are actually more strict than I ever thought...
As for the rest I was responding to your assertion that this is fox not CBS therefor they shouldn't have to edit One Piece...That was your debate not mines...just telling you what I read on foxbox (4kidsTV) shows guidlines and rules(which 4kids pres uses as an excuse to cover all their lame-brainess...
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Dude I'm not disagreeing with you...I'm just telling you Fox has guidlines for 4kidsTV in response to you saying given they are a fox network block that that shouldn't be a good enuff excuse...I agree...I'm just saying how they interpret those rules to TRY and cover their a$$ess for butchering OP....I'm neither blaming the FCC for the supreme butchering just letting you know that there is enforcement and that an unedited One Piece would violate some of their rules (but certainley not editing to 4kids extent)...My primary point was always reasonings behind them changing Zoro to Zolo and my non-chalant attitude towards that one aspect (and understanding that there is some credence to it--but in no way does this defend them playing the "rules-game" to excuse their butchering)....
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2006-07-22, 22:42 | Link #132 |
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well im not a big fan of One Piece
but hell someone needs to shut down 4kids already <_< all the good parts goes to waste because of violence blah blah T_T they can't be thinking of casting pokemon forever can they o_o |
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2006-07-26, 08:32 | Link #134 | |
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Why? Because it was comical relief for me and my hectic profession. Everytime I listen to it, I just want to laugh and laugh and laugh....... LAME but effective to kill stress..... The Japanese OP1 RULES...... Anyway, I have watch only one episode of One Piece US Version and Luffy's voice and Zolo's(I can understand why they had to change the name though) are a joke compare with the Japanese voices.... The Japanese version RULES. 4crapkids should just stop dubbing One Piece, it is going to kill One Piece one way or another.....glad I live in Asia rather than the US....... I get the watch the ORIGINAL One Piece with all it's glory and stuff..... I pity those living in the US watching the 4crapkids version of One Piece..... I was wondering who Crocodile was holding.......because it ain't Luffy he is holding...must be something else...because that scene makes Luffy looks like a chicken or a bird.........eewww.... Someone should just buy the license from 4crapkids and don't even release anything until they can fixed this whole big mess..or something like that..... |
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2006-08-16, 21:10 | Link #135 |
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When I first heard Luffy and Usopp's voice acting I was going WTF?
4Kids really killed thire characters. Luffy just sound he is hyperactive(which seem OkK sometimes) Usopp sounds like he is high, Sanji like an old man. Nami, Robin, Chopper was Ok for me. But lately I'm beggining to wonder what it would be like after the Skypier arc and Eniss Lobby arc. Especially the fight between Luffy and Usopp, that fight was supposed to be serious but with current VA, its gonna sound like a hilarious fight. |
2006-08-16, 21:20 | Link #136 |
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^ I was like WTF when i heard Luffys Japanese VA. Both the VA's suck. Luffy is fricking 17 wit abs yet he sounds like he's 8 in both versions. Sanji's english VA sucks ass like everyone else is saying. IMO, if they absolutely had to use Sanji's VA, they shoulda gave it to Zoro and gave Zoro's to Sanji.
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