2013-12-27, 12:05 | Link #2421 |
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We also saw Marie's runes leaking and her death scene when her eyes went blank. We also saw a proper burial for Marie...Haruto's body was recovered but nothing after that was shown. You would think they would have this huge funeral for the guy who freed the world from the Magiuses. Not only that just because Pino said he used up all his runes tell me why his death was completely different from Maries... His eyes didnt go blank nor did he instantly die in the cockpit and they dont even have a proper funeral for the mc... Why the hell does shoko being a pilot have to do anything? Obviously they wont make an empty shell pilot a vvv... Thats like putting mentally unstable soldier back into war...
Shokos also crying over a helmet, why didnt they use that time and show us his body... LOL, time constraints... More like they couldnt give them a proper burial because the whole world turned on them at that time. |
2013-12-27, 12:12 | Link #2423 | |
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Why couldnt they show us Haruto's body instead of Shoko crying over his helmet. His body would have made it clear... Im done arguing my point. Its people like this who just accepts things as they are rather than think outside the box and look at the clues were given.. Besides, youre using the same point over and over and i give the same response which is getting repetitive. |
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2013-12-27, 12:19 | Link #2424 | |
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Bzuh? It's not really relevant. Haruto's end was only to be witnessed by the only relationship he established that mattered to the plot in terms of development: L-Elf. His character, as episode 22 suggested, was to go out in a blaze of glory and extinquish after leaving a mark on the world. That's what he did.
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There are no "little clues." Just your personal wishful thinking. We saw Haruto's memories of the moon promise shatter on screen. L-Elf brought them up if he remembers, he's not Haruto.
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2013-12-27, 12:23 | Link #2425 | |
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2013-12-27, 12:27 | Link #2426 | |
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The only wishful thinking I see is how you just accept the facts as they are. I bet if you lived back in the past and was told the world was flat, you would take that fact like cake. The biggest clue were given is that Haruto is alive as an empty shell is that his body is not shown after he passed out. His eyes explain everything, he also obtained a little amount of runes from biting L-Elf at the last battle which is why his eyes didnt go blank This is exactly like the CG debate whether LL is alive or not. |
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2013-12-27, 12:41 | Link #2427 | |
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If Haruto is still alive, and not a total vegetable, then somebody should bring him up to speed on who he is, and be shown helping to take care of him. That's what any decent and thankful friend would do, isn't it? I'd find it pretty amazing/disgusting for both L-Elf and Shouko to fail to do this. And so by the time of Satomi/Takahi's wedding, Haruto should have known that these were two of his allies in the fight against Dorssia and the Magius, and he should want to be at their wedding. His absence from the wedding, and the absence of there being any scenes of him being cared for, and what Shouko said about the busts, altogether makes it clear that he's dead. Your thinking may not be wishful, but it really doesn't make sense either. You're totally grasping at straws here, and you're taking the "no body = no death" standard to a ridiculous extreme.
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2013-12-27, 12:51 | Link #2429 | |
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Thess, youre arguments are always invalid which is why I ignore most of your posts half the time. |
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2013-12-27, 16:43 | Link #2431 | |
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lol, good one.
Yes, of course I have been reading your statements. They're just not as compelling as you seem to think they are, because if they're right, they would make some of the character actions seem very, very odd. It doesn't make sense for Shouko to be crying over Haruto's helmet, and to be crying for as long as she did (going by Akira's narration), if Haruto had "only" lost his memories, but was otherwise alive and well. That's sad, sure, but it's not something you mourn over to this degree. The obvious implication is that Haruto is dead (or at least in a vegetative state), and that this is how the audience is supposed to take it. And if Haruto is in a vegetative state, then some may say that he's basically dead any way. Many people consider that basically the same as being dead any way, which is why many families opt to "pull the plug" once a loved one reaches this point. Quote:
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2013-12-27, 19:26 | Link #2439 | |
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His abnormality is seen through this vague statement. He clearly didn't want to give us a definite answer and clear explanations, or maybe he had already hinted some during his past interviews wherein the tiniest bits of details weren't viewed as meaningful.
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Possible Valvrave OVA-
Main Plot: Shouko's feelings on the events of the last few episodes and her journey towards redemption culminating with her piloting Hito and making friends with Pino and Plue. L-Elf and A-drei starting a program to train the students that decide to become Kamitski, and setting up a system to keep rune supply stable with human consent. First 2 encounters with other aliens 1 friendly and 1 hostile. Sub plots: Tekka/Kagerou becomes the model for mass production. While a few custom units get Hito's frame. Small insight to Haruto's sacrifices effect on the students. Beast-THUNDER! squad in memorial of Kyuma and THUNDER!. Akira trying to get into Shouko's pants. Cameo: Jin and Nao in their Kagero/raves. |
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