Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 05 Discussion / Poll

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

And Elio will turn out to be as old as Fate, with a special true-adult-form where he manipulates red lightning powars. :P

My god! You know what that means if it's true?!

Erio's a lolicon!!!

Hey, new bet! Who do you think will be captured, if any? Remember, not only Fate and Erio are at risk, the others are quite unique themselves...

[Darco_emp]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

My god! You know what that means if it's true?!

Erio's a lolicon!!!

I thought that context has already been estblished. It's just unclear to us how far he will go to fulfill his lolicon desires

[dkellis]

My brain has melted from AWESOME.

In the puddle that used to be grey matter, two thoughts may be discerned, from different parts of the episode:

- Is that danmaku?

- Is that Bahamut?

[raidou]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

My god! You know what that means if it's true?!

Erio's a lolicon!!!

Hey, new bet! Who do you think will be captured, if any? Remember, not only Fate and Erio are at risk, the others are quite unique themselves...

My bet on Nanoha, to be experimented on with the data that mad Dr. collected.Something like this might happen, Nanoha went over her limit and relapse (the injuries) in a battle then either got captured or kidnapped on the way to facility to be treated.

You know how 1/2 dead characters in anime usually/always easier to be experimented/controlled

Hahaha i will laugh so hard if somehow Erio has second form

Spoiler for Am not saying Erio personality might turn like this guy,Okay! ^_^:

Originally Posted by dkellis

- Is that danmaku?

if you are refering to danmaku game ...nope the beams/attack in this episode actually controlled and do not stray all over the place like in those game ...closer to macross

- Is that Bahamut?

Yeah Neo Bahamut to be exact ^,^ resemblance on the attack color/distance

[Darco_emp]

Caro for me then , Lolis are the best targets for experiments by a mad scientist

With the introduction of the Villian, looks like Lutecia will be created by Mr. Mad Scientist, yet an other cute girl that is moved by some evil twisted mastermind... Still I'm looking forward to see how will she be "befriended"

[Keroko]

Since the beginning of this season, I've been wondering how the hell they were going to do the new transformation sequences, and in particular Erio's. The first thing that popped into my head after watching the transformation sequences was "What? No Erio nudity? Wusses!"

Seriously, the poor sap looks out of place enough, now he's even more isolated. All because the animators could't handle the thought of a nude boy.

[Nightengale]

Episode was good. Nothing special aside from the Project F revelation, but good.

Is it strange that I cared for the transformation music 100 times more than the sequence itself? Though I've got to admit, Subaru's henshin was pretty nicely choreographed and storyboarded...considering she stole them from mecha shows.

I love the new A.Is and their interaction. Especially Subaru's and Teana's. They sound Engrish-ly amusing enough, and it looks like the start of a nice chemistry. Though I have a feeling Teana's relationship with C-M will eventually go downhill...

Strada is cool, but the A.I, aside from the nice "Expro-c-sion" voice, isn't anything special yet. Same goes for Kakurikon.(sp x)

Elio-Caro was nice. Nice touch there with the Sailor Moon-ish floating sphere with the pair of love birds inside hugging....Well, Sailor Moon was a kiss, but they LOOK underage so that's good enough.

Caro's flashback = proof that we need more MIDCHILDAN TRIBAL BACKGROUND. Yes, Yuuno, I'm looking at your shady family of artifact/Lost Logia diggers, and Caro too.

EVIL BAD GUY SHADY ORGANIZATION EVIL SECRET EXPERIMENTS YUS YES YAS.

Giving Fate more background revelation => DADDY TESTAROSSA DEBUT. I won't accept anything less.

Elio's from Project F as well...Well, for all the other-guy-related-stuff StrikerS is not living up to my wishes for, they seem to be slowly inclining towards Elio possibly being more special than he currently is. Adult-form plz. :P

[Chaos2Frozen]

(I haven't watched the episode...yet, but it seems like both Erio and Carol are alot more special than first appear...)
@Nightengale

Do you really want an adult Erio wearing shorts?

[raidou]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Do you really want an adult Erio wearing shorts?

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you just destroy my imagination of adult Erio

[LoweGear]

Elio not having such a "revealing" transformation actually works better than if he did go all strip naked. Besides, his few seconds of transformation was just as awesome as the others (not ot mention the bgm in his scene was incredibly impeccable).

After seeing the LQ raw, thoughts:

- Despite me not understanding anything about that bit with Caro and the Elders, strangely enough it was an unusually upsetting scene... of course, Nanoha's killer smile more than made up for that

- Midchilda sure doesn't have much of a problem with parking space do they

- No words need to be said about Fate and Nanoha's henshin

- Nanoha and Fate wiping the floor with those UAV's was a most welcome scene, especially with the Itano circus Nanoha displayed, and Fate shows why she's boss with her Haken Saber.

- FINALLY, Rein in her original outfit XD

- As already mentioned, Subaru's Final Fusion/Build Up transformation owns!

- Subaru's awesomeness from episode 1 comes back in full force here, and some new moves from Mach Calibur (I think I may have heard Sonic Breaker or something like that...). MC sure is talkative though.

- So Variable Barrel Shoot takes less energy than Variable Shoot... and Cross Mirage being able to switch to single hand mode is a cool feature.

- Elio Mondial was somewhat foolhardy trying to take on that autosphere by himself...

- More Caro flashback, and how Fate got to know her. Fate and Caro in the snow was quite touching to say the least...

- And so was the Caro/Elio scene a few seconds later... damn, they're becoming official..

On a side note, it's unusual how Hayate and Nanoha have no worry for Elio at all... seems they really trust Caro's magic that much.

- While most here expected Freidrich to grow bigger in StrikerS, I don't think anyone expected him to do so THIS SOON Caro summoning Friedrich though = AWESOMENESS

- Caro and Elio "Strike Swallow" combo attack was infinitely awesome... and after seeing Elio and Strada in that victory pose at the end, I suddenly wanted Elio to have a Zankantou Full Drive Mode...

"Waga Nawa Elio! Elio Mondial! Aku Tatsu Tsurugi Nari!"

- Not much on our evil Dr Scaglietti, asides from the fact that he sure is living up to his preconcieved image

[Nightengale]

Details, details. As you can tell from my episode comments, half of it are half-joking anyway. (( But since it's comments, it's half-true as well. ))

Besides, if we ever get alternate!Elio (( I'm not going to hold my breathe since Fate doesn't seem to have anything too special either )), I highly doubt it'll be permanent.

Frankly...Nanoha/Hayate pissed me off a little in this episode. Faith, trust and confidence is one thing, but they have been exhuming some "holier than thou" Eye of the Beholder vibes that frankly, scares me a lot.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Elio not having such a "revealing" transformation actually works better than if he did go all strip naked. Besides, his few seconds of transformation was just as awesome as the others (not ot mention the bgm in his scene was incredibly impeccable).

I think that there will be a lot of Erio shoutacons that will disagree with what you've said....

That aside, yes his transformation was just as awesome as the others, but to me Tia's stands on top of the rookies, mainly because it was very original. I love the card-like look of her device.

[Kha]

*sees all the new points to take note of and throws arms in the air*

Aye caramba I give up! How many times do I have to revise my Nanoha timelines theories and backgrounds?! Am I really stuck to just oneshots and humor until oct?! Pray tell why torture me so?!

*ahem*

Well as I was supposed to be saying, I'm betting Fate simply because its the best time and place to reveal her true past, which was a major staging point of my Nanoha fics.

Pretty ironic no, Nanoha fics having more to talk about Fate than the head girl?

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

My god! You know what that means if it's true?!

Erio's a lolicon!!!

Hey, new bet! Who do you think will be captured, if any? Remember, not only Fate and Erio are at risk, the others are quite unique themselves...

Can Erio be called a lolicon? He's about the same age as Caro...

Originally Posted by LoweGear

- Despite me not understanding anything about that bit with Caro and the Elders, strangely enough it was an unusually upsetting scene... of course, Nanoha's killer smile more than made up for that

- While most here expected Freidrich to grow bigger in StrikerS, I don't think anyone expected him to do so THIS SOON Caro summoning Friedrich though = AWESOMENESS

- What I understood was that the village/tribe couldn't keep Caro, because people with the power to summon (dragons) are dangerous.

- And it seems that chibi-dragon is Fried's...hmm...weaker form (lacking better words) and Caro "summoning" Fried is like unsealing its powers. (Kind of like CCS with Kero/Cerberus)

I think this is the first time a character spoke with their Device, namely Subaru & Mach Calibur:

*silence*
Mach Calibur - "I'll think about it..."

That part was funny, a Device saying something like that

[raidou]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Can Erio be called a lolicon? He's about the same age as Caro...

He was refering on "what if Erio actually as old as fate" as in the current body is not really who he is ...this is assuming Fate and Erio was created at same time by the same person.

[Thisguy]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

- What I understood was that the village/tribe couldn't keep Caro, because people with the power to summon (dragons) are dangerous.

It appears that everyone in the Lushe clan are capable of summoning dragon (that old man refers Caro as "Caro, a scion of Luche; Dragon summoning clan of Alzas").
What's different with Caro is that Caro could summon a Silver Dragon and received the blessing of Black Fire-dragon, at the age of 6.
As much as a excellent dragon tamer Caro was, Elders thought too much power will only cause conflict and disaster... so they had to expel Caro from the clan.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

I think this is the first time a character spoke with their Device, namely Subaru & Mach Calibur:

Well, before this episode, the devices they held were just training devices, they didn't hold a consiousnes like the live-armed ones do, so even if they wanted to, they couldn't talk with them.

As much as a excellent dragon tamer Caro was, Elders thought too much power will only cause conflict and disaster... so they had to expel Caro from the clan.

Suddenly the power limiters start to make a lot more sense....

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Thisguy

It appears that everyone in the Lushe clan are capable of summoning dragon (that old man refers Caro as "Caro, a scion of Luche; Dragon summoning clan of Alzas").
What's different with Caro is that Caro could summon a Silver Dragon and received the blessing of Black Fire-dragon, at the age of 6.
As much as a excellent dragon tamer Caro was, Elders thought too much power will only cause conflict and disaster... so they had to expel Caro from the clan.

Looks like Hayate did her homework when assembling this group That is alot of firepower concentrated in such a small group Chrono probably has a entire box of Anacid to deal with the ulcer this group is going to give him

[Kha]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Suddenly the power limiters start to make a lot more sense....

I do hope Caro doesn't suddenly wish for one in order to return to her clan. Then again, this opens up the possibility for Lutecia to be a "jealous one-san" who is sick and tired of having to live up to the little girl's precedent, and Dr Spagetti just happened to try and take advantage of things.

Speaking of this clan thing, if there's a sequel to StrikerS, I'm betting on Caro getting dragged back to be married to some big shot Clanner, without much complaint, and its up to Erio once again.

*cue cliche church interruption*

Except this guy's got the fastest spear in all Mexico!

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I meant [Strada]! Not his secondary weapon!

PS: Yes I'm NOT going to stop calling him Dr Spagetti. And something tells me that Vita's going to be doing the same too.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Kha

I do hope Caro doesn't suddenly wish for one in order to return to her clan. Then again, this opens up the possibility for Lutecia to be a "jealous one-san" who is sick and tired of having to live up to the little girl's precedent, and Dr Spagetti just happened to try and take advantage of things.

Speaking of this clan thing, if there's a sequel to StrikerS, I'm betting on Caro getting dragged back to be married to some big shot Clanner, without much complaint, and its up to Erio once again.

*cue cliche church interruption*

Except this guy's got the fastest spear in all Mexico!

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I meant [Strada]! Not his secondary weapon!

PS: Yes I'm NOT going to stop calling him Dr Spagetti. And something tells me that Vita's going to be doing the same too.

I can see the clan sending out a party go after Erio and Caro and finds the White Devil standing thier way