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Old 2009-03-19, 09:44   Link #201
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She does seem like a glorified personal assistant but, you never know.
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Old 2009-03-23, 13:56   Link #202
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For me its hidan , just escape his blood then cut his head and its the end .
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Old 2009-03-23, 15:12   Link #203
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my list is: (from strongest to weakest, yes i count Team Hawk)
1. Madara
2. Pein/Pain whatever
3. Konan
4. Orochimaru
5. Sasuke
6. Zetsu
7. Itachi
8. Jugo
9. Kakuzu
10. Suigetsu
11. Sasori
12. Kisame
13. Deidara
14. Karin
15. Hidan

Hidan is definitely the weakest. He is very powerful when you are caught in his jutsu alone... but if there are other people and you know the way his body-sharing jutsu works, dude's like a plank of wood. I believe Konan was the partner of the freaking leader for a reason... shes gotta be strong.
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Old 2009-03-23, 15:16   Link #204
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^You put Sasuke ahead of Itachi . A dead Itachi is still more powerful than a living Sasuke...
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Old 2009-03-23, 15:50   Link #205
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^You put Sasuke ahead of Itachi . A dead Itachi is still more powerful than a living Sasuke...
Well, he also has Orochimaru ahead of Itachi, so you got to wonder...
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Old 2009-03-23, 23:59   Link #206
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Well, he also has Orochimaru ahead of Itachi, so you got to wonder...
he also has a breasted up Soifon...
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Old 2009-03-24, 00:08   Link #207
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Well here's how I look at it, in shounen power level vary and in naruto/bleach/one piece the idea of will comes into play a lot, in one piece its even got a niffty name: Haki. Well since will pretty much equates to the power, or at least the potential for power, the weakest character would be pain, if the wierd Yondaime ghost/spirit/residual chakra is to believed. Especially if he was convinced by Tobi to do everything as he planned. This is still iffy though because Tobi doesn't enter akatsuki till Sasori dies but which is after Orochimaru leaves but when you think about it all the other akatsuki members are there not for any reason like loyalty. They cast their bonds aside and usually only pursue their own agenda whereas pain is being led by a string. The mere fact that as of now is oblivious or at least comes off as oblivious to Tobi/Madara's agenda makes him the weakest character of akatsuki. This is just an alternate approach to looking at a list thats probably done to death. I just want to mix it up.
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Old 2009-03-24, 00:29   Link #208
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We don't know enough about Kanon to give her a ranking.

Jiraiya did own her bad with a splash of oil, but that speaks more of the old master than of Kanon.

Same thing with Zetsu, we got no idea of what his fighting abilities are.

So here is my ranking of the Akatsuki.

1) Tobi / Madara - Number one by obviousness
2) Pein - second strongest
3) Itachi - We have seen this dude in action and the bottom members can't touch him.
4) Kisame - All water style shark fighting with big monster mine of chakra in his hands.
5) Kakuzu - This guy was freakishly strong and probably very close second to Itachi and almost or just as good as Kisame.
6) Deidara - I got him above Sasori because at his range he blows up the pupeteer.
7) Hidan - This guy can't die but he is too one dimensional.
8) Sasori - The pupet master's tricks would get derailed by the rest of the team.

Team Hawk looks weaker than half of the team, without Sazuke the team goes life and death with most top shinobi.
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Old 2009-03-24, 09:42   Link #209
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I think people underestimate Hidan way too much. I wish the show would of made him look more powerful because his abilities are like one in a million. Hidan is pretty one dimensional, but if it ain't broken don't fix it right? Anyway this is what I think of Hidan himself:

1. Immortaility:
A simple killing blow into a vital organ is useless against him, that is beyond useful in every way, shape, and form. The only way to truly disable him via killing blow is chopping off his head and the only reason that his head was cut off in the first encounter was because of Shikamarus shadow possession. We can't really expect an Akatsuki member to be so weak that their head could get chopped so easily, can we?
2. Hidans jutsu:
Hidans justu requires only two things to be accomplished in order to "curse" his opponent. One is creating his diagram on the ground with blood, which he can accomplish simply by making himself bleed and than creating the circle.
The second is taking in the blood of his enemy. That basically means that if you fight Hidan, you have to make sure you make zero mistakes. The second you make one mistake and lose some blood, that is it and you are dead.

So in essence, fighting Hidan is very difficult. You must fight an opponent in a way that you can't make any mistakes and can't lose any blood, but you have to try to defeat someone that can not be killed by conventional means? I tell you, that is one hard as hell sounding kind of fight to me, especially if you fight Hidan one on one.
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Old 2009-03-24, 12:43   Link #210
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Hmmm the time that Hidan accomplish his circle , we can stop him .
Not only his head . We can cut his legs or arms and its the end for him too . Yes he's immortal but its Kazuzu who reattach his members .
The others Akatsuki's members are all in advantages vs him .
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Old 2009-03-24, 12:45   Link #211
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Hidan is good against one on one. But very bad against an army/group.
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Old 2009-03-24, 13:59   Link #212
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Hmmm the time that Hidan accomplish his circle , we can stop him .
Not only his head . We can cut his legs or arms and its the end for him too . Yes he's immortal but its Kazuzu who reattach his members .
The others Akatsuki's members are all in advantages vs him .
Since when has cutting off the arms or legs of an Akatsuki member become easy? And doesn't cutting off an arm or leg off most ninja usually mean they are at a disadvantage? If anything if you cut off Hidans arm, he can still perform his ritual but if you cut off other ninjas arms than those ninja can't perform anymore jutsu unless they have an ability to regenerate it.

I will agree though that Hidans abilities are not ideal for facing several people at once, but I do think Hidan is very formidable in a 1v1 situation.

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Old 2009-03-24, 14:15   Link #213
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Since when has cutting off the arms or legs of an Akatsuki member become easy? And doesn't cutting off an arm or leg off most ninja usually mean they are at a disadvantage? If anything if you cut off Hidans arm, he can still perform his ritual but if you cut off other ninjas arms than those ninja can't perform anymore jutsu unless they have an ability to regenerate it.

I will agree though that Hidans abilities are not ideal for facing several people at once, but I do think Hidan is very formidable in a 1v1 situation.
It'd be easy for Akatsuki members to cut any part of Hidan's body...
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Old 2009-03-24, 14:19   Link #214
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It's all about knowing his technique or not; normally people are cautious, ready to take a small blow to interpret a way of attack, which would give Hidan victory. On the other hand, if they go totally on the offensive, he wouldn't have time to perform his ritual, and given the fact that he uses no other jutsu, he's very easy to corner with fuuton/douton.
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Old 2009-03-25, 15:53   Link #215
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Just use Jiraya as an example to base the ratings off of. Jiraya is probably the strongest good guy we've gotten to see everything from, though he may have been stronger when he was 30 rather than 50 who really knows. Anyway, he was a powerhouse.

Pain vs. Jiraya = winner Pain only because Jiraya didn't know the "secret"
Konan vs. Jiraya = Konan gets roflpwned

The rest will have to be hypothetical.

Itachi vs Jiraya = really tough to call but probably Itachi because of his trump cards

Orochimaru vs Jiraya = another really tough call I almost think this is a thread in itself so lets just call this one a tossup. They are both freaks who use swamp magic so it's hard to compare weaknesses to strengths.

Zetsu vs Jiraya =no info, no comment

Madara vs Jiraya = seems to be an Itachi clone....but stronger (yikes) but we don't really know, so no comment. My gut says Madara would crush him.

Kakuzu vs Jiraya= this would be a wild fight but I think Jiraya's sage tech and summons + an array of strange overpowered jutsu gives him the advantage by a fair margin.

Diedara vs Jiraya = at first I thought this would also be a cool fight but then I realized I just like Diedara too much. Jiraya would probably just summon a swamp to absorb the bombs down to it's depths and the explosions would amount to much. It would all depend on a small bomb sneaking into Jiraya's system. I don't see J-man giving ol' D.D. enough time for that, but I guess he'd have a closer chance of victory than say Kakuzu.

Kisame vs Jiraya = Two chakra powerhouses and nin tech specialists. I don't really see this as much of a contest. Jiraya has way to many counters to water techniques, he could probably just summon a frog to drink all the water Kisame tries to puke out (that's gross).

Sasori vs Jiraya = I actually think Sasori was one of the stronger Akatsuki, but for some reason I just think he would be rolled by Jiraya. I mean, I just see gamabunta landing on top of a bunch of puppets that go crunch.

Hidan vs Jiraya = Step one: Jiraya, summon tech, frog stomache prison; Step the second: Hidan spends rest of his short life dissolving in a frog intestine. Hidan may have been immortal but....only kinda. I don't think even Kakuzu if he were around could reanimate a pile of shit. SO result of the fight... Hidan gets rolled, maybe worse than Konan.
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Old 2009-03-25, 19:44   Link #216
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It's a shame we never found out Itachi's true potential... he lived off meds for 3 years... so he mostly deteriorated while Sasuke got stronger. As of right now, I don't see any jutsu stronger than susanoo. even pain's ultra secret jutsus that created a tiny moon and blasted Konoha. Itachi's susanoo would most likely protect him from the blast, while the sword can cut open the ball of rocks...
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Old 2009-03-26, 19:41   Link #217
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My Take: strongest to weakest

1. Madara/Pain (I say this because we haven't seen Nagato use his Rinnegan yet and he only used one path, with the help of the other 5, to blow Konoha to bits.)
2. Itachi (3 MS techs.. A freak. nuff said.)
3. Zetsu (only because we haven't seen enough yet.)
4. Kakuzu (A ton of battle exp. How old is this dude?)
5. Orochimaru (a sannin)
6. Kisame (Chakra)
7. Hidan (He can't die, although I'm pretty sure that the first 3 members on this list would find a way to put him in a casket/grave/whatever)
8. Sasuke (Hasn't fought enough to go toe to toe with any of the top 6)
9. Deidara (clay bombs... ehh)
10. Sasori (Puppets would be destroyed by #'s 1,4 and 6. Disassembled by 2,5 and 8. Probably swallowed whole by 3. No point in fighting 6. 9 could go either way.)
11. Konan (Paper cuts.)
12. Rest of team Hebi (Without Sasuke they'd be dead)

Konan seems to be the weakest individual member. She would get owned by Konohamaru
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Old 2009-03-28, 12:15   Link #218
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Itachi vs Jiraya = really tough to call but probably Itachi because of his trump cards
When asked about it back in act I, he had said that Jiraiya would probably kill them both and that bringing more people would only increase their casualties,so I'd give Jiraiya that one.
If we are to count team hebi/haka, I'd place Suigetsu under Orochimaru, Juugo above Suigetsu and Karin below Suigetsu.
Oh,about the weakest akatsuki member, Hidan.
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Itachi would ensnare him in Genjutsu, Kisame would eat away his chakra reserves (I suppose he needs SOME for the ritual), he wouldn't be able to land a hit on Tobi,Orochimaru had a weird sense of life and could use his ritual to take over Hidan's body (), he would have to break all of Sasori's puppets to get to his heart, Konan would...turn into paper(?), Pain would just shinra tensei him to the afterlife, he wouldn't be able to hit Suigetsu in his water form, Sasuke would use a mere chidori to cut him in half or genjutsu to subjugate him, Juugo would use curse seal and crush Hidan's arms or whatnot, Kakuzu could turn his body to stone and Deidara would blast him into a million pieces.Dunno about Zetsu, does he even have blood?
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Old 2009-03-28, 13:44   Link #219
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Hidan is the weakest Akatsuki member because he has no special combat skills. He's weaker than everybody until he draws blood and creates his circle, which won't happen in the first place against somebody who actually has combat jutsus. Being immortal is a minor advantage because he can't just take hits - if he loses limbs or his head it's still over.
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Old 2009-03-28, 14:24   Link #220
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When asked about it back in act I, he had said that Jiraiya would probably kill them both and that bringing more people would only increase their casualties,so I'd give Jiraiya that one.

Ya, it's true about Itachi saying that ya but, that one comment has generated so many pages worth of debate it makes the finality of said statement dubious at best. Speculating, one could chalk that comment up to Itachi simply being humble who really knows.

All I know is that I have a hard time imagining anything Jiraya could do stopping Susano. It all would depend on whether Itachi was willing to use such a trump card. I doubt it was a move he could use all the time. Seemed pretty tough on the user as well, though that could just have been because Itachi was on his last legs anyway.

I love and respect J-mans ability but like I said Susano pretty much trumps any other battle technique we've seen.
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