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As for Jeremiah, the chance for fame and glory would override safety issues, not that having such a badass machine would be all that dangerous. Quote:
Except Lelouch worked for that talented pilot and machine. Suzaku was handed his on a silver platter and much of his success after that is the same thing.
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2009-11-20, 20:21 | Link #9264 | |
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lelouch litteraly has to build an army on his own, which includes getting kallen to follow him and getting kyoto to accept him enough that they would give him the guren MK II euphie falls into suzaku's hands
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2009-11-20, 23:24 | Link #9266 | |
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He got it by both. She fell into his arms and he showed her around. Establishing that friendship made her run out in the field in the first place. It was luck that brought them together. Suzaku's first actual promotion was a token gift from Cornelia. He relies on charity to get ahead, and only once did he actually make an effort to get promoted.
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2009-11-22, 23:58 | Link #9268 |
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He wasn't rewarded for that. Corenlia didn't even arrive until well after that point. Cornelia specifically notes she gave him the promotion to placate him, not as any sort of reward. I'd give the exact quote, but tracking down the episode is proving difficult.
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2009-11-23, 19:13 | Link #9272 | |
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he was not rewarded for it, nor would anyone consider rewarding him for it he was an eleven, and normally would not even be allowed to CLEAN the lancelot, let alone pilot it the britannian military considered him an expendable mook, and the lancelot's creator considered him a useful "part" for the machine no one would have rewarded him for his hard work, for the same reason no one would reward the lancelot for its hard work its/he's just a tool, as far as britannia is concerned so much so that even AFTER getting promoted by cornellia, his identity as the lancelot's pilot remains secret
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2009-11-23, 19:24 | Link #9273 |
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Without Geass Lelouch would have spent his days at Ashford playing chess getting a C average and clenching his fist everytime Charles came on the tv going "someday you'll pay" but never actually doing anything about it.
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2009-11-23, 19:42 | Link #9274 |
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After he got it though, Lelouch actually did the work of setting up the Black Knights and the associated resistance against Britannia. There's no question that he would have needed to wait without it, but he still took initiative once he did.
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2009-11-23, 22:35 | Link #9277 |
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I think, morbosfist, you're misinterpreting azul. more like suzaku forced himself to work within the confine of the law, which was very limiting yet nonetheless suzaku still subjected himself to it. lelouch otoh worked outside the purview of the law, allowing him more freedom of action.
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2009-11-23, 23:20 | Link #9280 |
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Not exactly. He could have taken the initiative even within the confines of the law. See his promotion to KoR. He chose not to. Instead he chose to take every crap assignment they gave him as a roundabout way to die, and even after being KoR makes hardly an effort to get ahead.
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