2013-03-14, 16:57 | Link #322 |
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Ok, I'm going to try to have as many children as possible, but I'm not going to go about this as a pokemon breeder Following my shipping goggles, how bad or very bad would the following be?
Chrom x Sumia = Lucina, Cynthia (They would be sisters right?) Henry x Lissa = Owain Lon'qu x Olivia = Inigo Gaius x Maribelle = Brady Gregor x Cherche = Gerome Fredricx x Panne = Yarne Vaike x Miriel = Laurent Libra x Tharja = Noire Ricken x Nowi = Nah (Haven't decided on what to do Cordelia... I could marry her myself but I'm considering one of the girls without a children like Anna, Tiki or Say'ri...)
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2013-03-14, 17:17 | Link #323 | |
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For storyline purposes, Chrom and Sumia is pretty much canon. If you don't have an S ranked support for Chrom by the end of chapter 11, the game forces him to marry the girl he has the highest support with, with Sumia > Maribelle > Sully > Olivia > Avatar (female) in terms of priority when settling a tie. Sumia herself also has the most limited number of potential husbands out of all of Chrom's potential wives. They're meant to be together. Every other relationship is ambiguous. Owain, Cynthia, Inigo, Gerome, Noire, Kjelle, Laurent, Severa, Nah, Brady, Yarne, and Morgan all have the exact same dialogue toward their optional parent, so there is really nothing hinting one guy over the other for any of the other mothers. |
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2013-03-14, 17:33 | Link #325 | |
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It's supposed to reference Catria's unrequited for Marth in his games. Marth loved Caeda. Incidentally both girls were also Pegasus Knights, with Caeda having a low Str growth but absurdly high Skl and Spd growths like Sumia while Catria had more well rounded growths like Cordelia. |
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OMG epic plot twist !
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Chrom and Sumia are fine, though not necessarily the best choice. She offers the highest Spd boost to Lucina but slightly hurts her Str. She also has access to Pegasus Knight and therefore can promote to Dark Flier for the highly coveted skill Galeforce, which lets your unit act again if they kill an enemy unit. However... so does Olivia and Avatar (Female).
Henry and Lissa work out fine as long as you train and Second Seal him into the mage classes. If you want him to stay as a sword user however... not so much. Lon'qu and Olivia are fine. Gaius and Maribelle's boosts contradict each other. Maribelle gives penalties to Str and boosts to Mag for Brady, but Gaius gives boosts to Str with penalties in Mag. Gregor and Cherche are fine. Frederick gives boosts to Str and Def which is fine, but he also has penalties to Spd which may not go well with Panne's Spd boosts. Vaike and Miriel do not go well together for the same reasons as Gaius and Mirabelle: one gives boosts to Str with penalties in Mag while the other gives Mag but has penalties in Str. Libra and Tharja work fine, assuming you reclass Noire to a mage class like Dark Mage and don't bother with her starting Archer class. Ricken is kind of pointless for Nowi since Manaketes and their Dragonstones are physical based, so you would want a husband that gives Def and/or Str to Nah. I would recommend Frederick or Kellam for Nowi. After Cordelia and her daughter Severa, you also forgot Sully and her daughter Kjelle, by the way. If you're wondering what I'm talking about: http://serenesforest.net/fe13/char_max.html http://serenesforest.net/fe13/children.html 2nd generation characters inherit the sum of their parents' stat cap modifiers, +1. The modifiers as the name implies increase or decrease the stat caps of the class they are in. So for example, Lon'qu has a +3 max Spd modifier. If he is an Assassin with naturally has a max Spd of 46, Lon'qu will cap Spd at 49. If he is a Wyvern Lord which has a Spd cap of 38, he will cap Spd while in the Wyvern Lord class at 41. Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2013-03-14 at 20:51. |
2013-03-14, 21:02 | Link #329 | |
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For example, Lon'qu and Panne wouldn't be a good pair because both of them give Thief (Assassin and Trickster) and Wyvern Rider (Wyvern Lord and Griffon Rider), so Yarne wouldn't have very many good skills to choose from since his class options are so limited despite getting good stat modifiers from his parents. You don't necessarily have to keep the parents to use the children. Just grind them enough to build their supports and skills to marry and pass down to their child, then bench them once you recruit the child. |
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2013-03-14, 23:12 | Link #330 | |
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The best person to marry for your MC would probably be Lucina for the Lord skill or one of the other children.
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2013-03-14, 23:36 | Link #331 | |
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2013-03-15, 01:03 | Link #332 | |
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Trust me, this template made collecting every support conversation boring as can be.
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CASE A Nah as Rallyer: Avatar/Morgan gets to have 2 attacks that is powered by Luna/Ignis (chance of proccing either at 38 SKL: 62%), a 20 power Aversa's Night (which never degrades in durability due to me giving luck based class pair up bonuses), with at least 47 MAG and 44 SPD before pair up bonuses Nah rallies for +6 for the relevant stats (STR/SPD/MAG), +2 to everything else. Still has one skill slot for other purposes CASE B Morgan F as Rallyer: +6 to every stat, +4 STR/SPD/MAG. Used up all skill slots Nah essentially has a 14 power Dragonstone+, 43 STR but usually only one attack due to low SPD So is the difference between +10 and +6 to the relevant offensive stats worth it to have an extra 2 attacks with a strong unit, potentially 4 with galeforce? I personally don't think so, especially since Manakete has higher defensive stats that tends for them to be ignored by the enemy even post Rally. Also note that everyone around gets +6 DEF/RES with case B, which means the Morgan Rallyer is now gonna be the prime target for aggro due to everyone else having higher resists. And with no skill slots, plus Noseferatu/Aversa's Night only having 20/10 durability, I hope you have extra stock and lots of money. And if you're a physical based Avatar/Morgan, having no Sol means you are essentially dead meat by the hordes of enemies at lunatic. XD Quote:
Also note that 51 SPD is the maximum to double attack practically any unit in the game, and Lon'qu gives Swordsmaster Severa 52 SPD. This can be up to 60 SPD with pair up bonuses via Berserker (dodge everything via Lon'qu giving her access to all breaker skills), or preferably it allows her pair to be the vastly superior Warrior (which gives her comparable defenses at 40/36, compared to 41/34). A Vaike fathered Severa would in turn need to have their paired up unit to be a Berserker (which IMO isn't a good class end game due to their crappy SKL cap AND Axes being the most inaccurate of the weapon types), or a Taguel/Dread Fighter (both being inferior to Warrior in offensive punch). More importantly, Vaike doesn't offer Severa either Vantage (no Myrmidon) or even Counter (have to inherit Axefaire since no Swordfaire), which that alone IMO is worth being at 58 effective STR (40 max stat + 10 pair up + 5 Swordfaire + 3 Rank A) instead of 63 (47 max stat + 10 pair up + 5 axefair + 1 Rank A). When you're at less than half health in danger of being killed, having Vantage allows you to outright ignore low HP enemies, or it gives you the extra chance to proc Sol in order to live,. (and when you're at full, you want to attack later anyways jsut in case they hit you) And nothing is stopping from Lon'qu fathered Severa from being a Hero (3 less STR and 1 less DEF for +2 SPD/SKL and Vantage), though I prefer not doing it this way because her partner doesn't get LCK bonus (which allows you to have 100% armsthrift to keep the durability on stuff like Hector's Axe/Hellswath) and now you have to give her Ragnell. Why am I so bent on having a Warrior? Because being paired up with Inigo fathered by Stahl gives him access to bowfaire, allowing you to cherry pick problematic Counter based enemies with a 4-hit 15 power Brave Bow backed by 58 effective STR (51 max stat + 5 bowfaire + 2 Rank A), then after activating Galeforce, retreat or switch out weapon/active unit depending on the situation. Quote:
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That is, my problem would be Lucina (if Avatar F - MAG Asset/LCK flaw), since Aether + Rightful King isnt consistent enough, or Noire (Avatar M - MAG asset/STR flaw), which I can't pass up on another Galeforce user since Avatar M don't have access to it. Quote:
And with Bride being released and I'm testing more characters now, I actually like Noire now as the pair to Morgan-M, with skills being Bowfaire/Anathema/Dual Guard/Hex. Then Virion as father to give access to Deliverer.
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BTW, for anyone that knows, how are the Demon Fighter and Bride classes? From the descriptions on Serene Forest, they don't see like they're OP or otherwise so cool and desirable that I would want to spend money on them ..
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If nothing else, Dread Fighter lets you give sad sacks like Chrom a good support class, and more skills. Also, if you buy that pack, you get the third map, which gives x2 exp skill. |
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2013-03-16, 07:24 | Link #340 |
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Depends on what level Risen you summon. Honestly, I'd say go DLC to train. Even if it's just the free Marth map (assuming you got it when it was free), that's good for leveling lowbies. If you didn't and just want the one map, get EXPonential Growth. It's good for leveling for a LONG time (basically until you hit the hard/lunatic internal level cap).
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