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A superior being wanted to create the ultimate killing machines. It gave them the best eyes, the best ears, the best claws, the best hind and incredible strength and speed. But do you know what else it gave them? It didn't give them the mind of a predator, but that of a child. It made them think that killing is a game.
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2007-08-04, 11:29 | Link #382 | |
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You know, this might be exactly what they meant that weapons like that could even be used by a child.
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2007-08-04, 11:35 | Link #384 | |
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Just tell her that she's free to go back to her mamas, but the only thing standing in her way are those mean men trying to hurt her.
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2007-08-04, 11:39 | Link #385 | |
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Anyway we need to know more about the purpose of the humanoid part, if it's not the system's operator it could've been realized in a much better way. |
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And you forgetting that this is suppose to be a very powerful weapon, it's not meant to be something you can buy in a groccery store. We have Nuclear weapons, but it's going to be a bitch for most people to get it. Technology is not always proportional to convenience. Quote:
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If the human component was not brought up with the knowlegde of love, then it would indeed be a good weapon. After all, it was said that a human brain can be far superior than a computer. Example?
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Your point? If 75 years ago such people were so common that even a child could get access to WMD (oh lol, I will never ever believe it in my life, those mages they have now are way more dangerous) something really major had to happen to make them extinct. Quote:
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You create an animal. It will kill. But it would only kill what it needs and to protect itself. You create a child. You give him/her a game. Until you stop him/her, that child is going to play to the end of time, or until they're bored of it, but either way it won't be anytime soon. Need more explaination? An animal would give up if it knows it can't win. A child? If the game is interesting enough, they would get keep going at it until he/she 'wins'. And by the way? Nothing is truely fail-safe, you should know that. Why do you think people still die? Quote:
My point is that it's not hard for an entire race or Civilization to be wiped out that easily, you don't need advance technology for that. Sure there would be survivors, but their numbers would drop drastically. Also, do not mistake the different between getting access to, and being able to use. Sure a child could use them, but it's not like they could run into it everyday. There ARE different types of weapons you know, even the WMD types. Quote:
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The whole weapon in question would be convenient despite its costs if its humanoid part isn't meant to be produced along with it but was considered by the creators available de facto. We need to wait to learn the details. Quote:
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If it's a part of the system to be controlled by someone else fail-safety measures should've been implemented to prevent unwanted behavior. Why only a certain person then? That's the question. EDIT: Quote:
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It is not convenient if you have to spent a huge amount of effort to aquire one item. There are 6 BILLION people on the planet, how many of them can come to purchase one? Why don't you have the resources? Why don't a large/huge number of people have that resources? Because of all the restrictions you have to overcome. When there's an overwhelming amount of restriction, it is no longer a convenience. That's a lame reason to dislike something. Quote:
If that's the case, do you now freaking get it why such a weapon is banned? The component has been compromised, that is all. Sometimes it can't be helped.
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2007-08-04, 13:25 | Link #392 | |
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There is this one accident where a guy almost blew up the main character's chopper with an ancient weapon because he has suitable gene and accidentally activate it just by touching/sitting on the chair.It is mind controlled weapon. Whereas AeC require codes/key activation and such plus a magic user means they have knowledge of magic and trained about it before.A kid with magic potential cant just accidentally touch Asura console and shoot AeC |
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2007-08-04, 13:28 | Link #393 | |
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1. The Relic was designed to bond with 1 person only. The artificial mage is a replica of that person. My commander idea. 2. A specifically designed artificial mage has a way of "spoofing" the relic into thinking it's been fused to its authorised user. At last, we have an idea of why someone other than the Doctor made Vivio. It would seem he wasn't the only one who thought of fusing a Relic with a person. Or he was, and spread the idea through the underground and waited to see who could make something suitable for him, then he would swoop in to snatch it, the scavenger. In the meantime, he concentrated on his own expertise. |
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- Yes, but until then you would do nothing to stop. - Now you're just desperate, all I've said was that they are childrens who thinks killing is a game. I can't say what they do on their own free time because it was never mentioned. But I have a feeling that their creator just gets them to play. - He has a near perfect plan. He would immedately kill any of the creature who experience emotions or changes that could compromise the entire race. They would never grow up and never learn anything other than what he allows. Quote:
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As for the living being, every weapon has it's ups and downs, no weapon is without weakness. It's only a different weakness for different weapons. If you want to believe so. Quote:
If what sets this ship apart from the other WMD is that child, then removing that part would just make it no different than all the other weapons. Would you rather have two super important component to have to look after?
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The weaknesses shall be removed when possible though. This living being thing is a freaking huge inconvenience in my opinion. The weapon's functionality shall be independent from the operator and be as reliable as possible. Wait, TSAB don't like such weapons and ban them too bad. Quote:
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This discussion doesnt make much sense, I must say. An Hero stated a very valid point in that why would Scaglietti need to use a HUMAN component in his "ultimate weapon" (he was just wondering why). And not only a human, but a little girl at that.
Whatever the weapon is, the human component IS its weakness, because it is something Scaglietti will surely not be able to fully control (because humans have emotions, blah blah blah), and in the end of the series it will surely be the reason why this weapon will fail, as Vivio wont want to kill Nanoha, for example. To me, this is just a plot device so Nanoha would go all emo on this "ultimate weapon" and try to save it instead of destroy it. That's one of the reasons why I really dont like Vivio. To me, she seems to be forced into the series, as this human component could have been an old dude no one cared about. But no, it had to be a little girl, and one that befriended the good guys, and even became Nanoha's "daughter". Anyway, just drop it and wait to see what Scaglietti does with this little girl. |
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