2012-03-24, 21:31 | Link #1601 |
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I'm sure the Bentenmaru was well compensated for this particular voyage, probably not in pillage from the golden ship, but the Serenity Royal Family probably made some significant donations to the 'Help the pirates repair the damage from an awesome parking job' Fund.
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2012-03-24, 22:34 | Link #1603 |
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I'm a little confused about what was going on on Serenity.
Not that the pirates care much, but I'd like some resolution.
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2012-03-24, 22:43 | Link #1604 |
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The royal family are all clones made on the ghost ship. Gruier decided the whole royalty thing's outlived its usefulness and it's time to make Serenity a republic, so to do that she hired the Bentenmaru to find the ghost ship and destroy the cloning chamber. Her sister brought a fleet to stop her, but Marika managed to cut a sidedeal with the sister's forces and end the conflict before it came to a fight. In the end none of it matters because the cloning machine's was on its last legs and would've broken down before delivering the last royal -- though doc was able to keep it going long enough to "give birth" one final time.
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2012-03-25, 00:34 | Link #1607 | |
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Boy does Sasamoto really loves German . Reminds me of Tomino and his UC gundam and also this Glad there was no BananaG and Audrey Burn scene from here . It's not like there was gravity anyway :P. Oh, and expect another old time Hollywod actress's name to appear when they adapt vol 3
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2012-03-25, 01:32 | Link #1608 |
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Well I'm guessing that is the end of that Arc. Marika sure shine this time. I wasn't expecting her to pull a devious move like that. I hope the next arc is awesome as well. That insert song "Black Holy" is nice, maybe I should buy the single.
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2012-03-25, 01:35 | Link #1609 |
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So after giving birth to Chibiusa, Neo-Queen Serenity decided that was too much trouble and started cloning herself, and the tradition held for thousands of years. That would explain the traditional hair style for civilian clothes use. And the Rose motif based on the traditional father or lover: King Endymion. .... Or something like that.
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2012-03-25, 01:50 | Link #1610 | |
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With the closure of the Serenity arc, this episode did all right, but in return... As I said before, Marika's "universe" has expanded.
@dahl_moon: excellent explanation for some things left unsaid. And... Quote:
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2012-03-25, 03:24 | Link #1611 |
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I've been enjoying this show, but like others have noted, this episode left a lot of unanswered questions from the Serenity arc. I didn't see this addressed above, but maybe someone who has read the novels can shed some light on the following.
When Gruier wakes up, Marika tells Gruier that the rose was drained dry of genetic samples. Gruier looks pained and responds with a soft cry of "No . . .". This would imply she wanted there to be genetic material in the rose (which she was going to destroy). But then when the baby is brought in, Gruier tears up and says "I almost killed this child?" This would imply she didn't realize there was any genetic material left. As someone from a family born through this process for generations, it seems likely she would consider genetic material in an artificial womb to be the equivalent of an in utero embryo. So my question is, did Gruier initially want to "kill" the genetic material, but then once she saw the baby, she changed her mind, or what? I guess you could just chalk this up to a pre-teen princess not really considering the consequences of her acts, but I was hoping there is a better explanation. On another note, the way Marika's deviousness is played, the show has it come across as clever and cute. But if you think about it for a second, Marika essentially sold out her client (Gruier) and made a "better deal" with Yotov to save her own skin/get a bigger score. Of course, in the end Gruier is happy that Marika sold her out, but that doesn't change the fact that at the time Marika sold out Gruier for a better deal, Marika had no way of knowing that Gruier would forgive her. That's not cute devious, that's straight villainy. |
2012-03-25, 03:54 | Link #1612 |
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Serenity were Capsuleers all along? Lol.
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2012-03-25, 04:03 | Link #1613 |
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It technically isn't "selling out" if both parties do the same thing for a goal that is mutually beneficial to both. It's more like Yotof and Marika knew a resolution favoring one party or the other would end in much bloodshed, which both of course would know isn't pretty, and yet both wanted their respective goals to be achieved. It would only be selling out if Marika acted with intent of throwing her lot with Grunhilde, which didn't happen.
Marika does continue to impress with her super-competency though, without appearing convoluted or contrived. Give her a few years and she'll do Bruce Wayne proud
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2012-03-25, 04:29 | Link #1614 | |
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I was wondering when either Shebs or AX would come and post an EVE response to this episode.
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I don't think there's enough genetic material in that rose to last for thousands of year (that's more than a pluripotent stem cell can provide). Instead, there's a limit to copying before replicative fade renders the clone unviable. So back then the clock had already been ticking. With this being the last princess, a succession war is imminent. (And yes, I have all of TNG memorized...)
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2012-03-25, 05:06 | Link #1616 | |
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In the end, Gruier failed to accomplish what she set out to do because Marika's direct actions prevented her from destroying the rose. In effect, Marika did side with Grunhilde, who was seeking to protect the rose. Marika effectively sold out her client and sided with Grunhilde's faction and in return they agreed not to assault the Bentenmaru's crew. Without the deus ex machina baby that melts Gruier's heart, would she really have been happy with the end result? Gruier really would have been bettter off hiring Chiaki-chan for her mission of destruction! I'm sure the intent is to show Marika's "super-competency" in setting the whole scheme up, as you say. But the problem here is that the anime writers were too clever by half and they make Marika appear to be willing to sell out clients to save her own skin. Spoiler for LN comparison:
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2012-03-25, 05:14 | Link #1617 |
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Didn't saw that coming, but then I doubt if there was a story that had absolutely no plot holes.
Anyway, and fittingly enough to end the arc, someone came up with a remix of the OP (not sure if anyone would like it).
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