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kenjiharima · 2010-01-23, 11:53

3 bandages...

always the biblical thing in needless.

Homura7 · 2010-01-23, 12:28

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Originally Posted by kenjiharima

3 bandages...

always the biblical thing in needless.

Help me with that, coz I don't remember the simbology of the 4 bandages Saten wears.

Sekirei07 · 2010-01-23, 13:07

It might be the bandages Christ was wrapped in after he was taken off the cross?

I wonder if Arclight could use the Fifth Wave.

Hmm thats a thought, could we just think that Saten has Positive Feedback? Not PF Zero but just the aspect of PF. Where he can use the power of the fragment beyond its natural limitations.

Homura7 · 2010-01-23, 13:42

Actually, isn't the tattoo what amplifies someones power? The Eden seed.

In chapter 50, Teruyama comments how the hell Arclight can use fragment powers when he lost all of them, and inmediatly, Disk and Gido corrects him and say it's not Zero, it's Positive Feedback.

Therefore, it's crystal clear it's the mark what made Saten's Fifth Wave that strong.

That's the origin of the Positive Feedback, and the very reason Arclight's Zero is stronger, because he has the mark, while Blade hasn't.

Sekirei07 · 2010-01-23, 22:40

Is their any biblical reference to the Left hand of God? Christ was known to "Sit at the right hand of God" but I wonder about his left. Since Saten is showing so much power with his left hand

Dragonkid11 · 2010-01-23, 23:20

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Originally Posted by Sekirei07

Is their any biblical reference to the Left hand of God? Christ was known to "Sit at the right hand of God" but I wonder about his left. Since Saten is showing so much power with his left hand

does that mean the left hand is...demon?

Sekirei07 · 2010-01-24, 00:22

No no it is something else, lets see.

The Archangel Gabriel was called "The Left Hand of God" who was also known to be the angel of death...

hmm... interesting... Blade in a tight spot all right....

Avvesione · 2010-01-24, 00:39

I wonder what condition Blade will be in when we see him next. Saten used his tattoo and unleashed his most powerful attack. I wonder if him fighting against other Eden Seed class Needless will change his personality again... (much like Arclight's tattoo attack).

Sekirei07 · 2010-01-24, 00:55

I think of really only three possible outcomes with Blade coming out

A. 70% chance his ass is toasted to much to fight further
B. 20% chance he will pop out with comic relief
C. 10% he shows off some new/old fragment that will turn the tide

Homura7 · 2010-01-24, 07:09

Well, Ishiyama said the fight would be over soon, so doubt Blade is gonna get up of this. Besides, even if he were , Saten would send him another taste of his power.

So basically, what Sekirei07 says.

kenjiharima · 2010-01-24, 07:42

I'd go for B.

Just hoping Blade won't be a joke character later on...

Homura7 · 2010-01-24, 08:14

Let's go with a mix of A + B.

He comes with a comic relief but with his ass toasted.

or...

just A.

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Originally Posted by kenjiharima

I'd go for B.

Just hoping Blade won't be a joke character later on...

He always jokes, but his role as protagonist ended long ago, in his final fight against Arclight. Hell, even when he had the chance, it had to be Seto and Solva who finished Hatfield off.

A joke is what his Verdict has become:

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/65414/11

kenjiharima · 2010-01-24, 08:45

Now Blade is the 2ndary character.

Wonder how will Yamada's brains will get them out of this predicament.

Possible Gido will come back in the next chapter, rescuing Blade in a vehicle with Teruyama.

Sekirei07 · 2010-01-24, 09:12

^ I don't think they can get away with just a car or something like that. Plus they are underground so transportation could only be done on a testament and with Eve's condition they can't move her. She probably melt in their hands lol

Homura7 · 2010-01-24, 09:17

Well, despite being incapable to fight and leaving that to Blade, the story has been developing always around Cruz from the beggining.

Of course, after the PF explosion, many things have changed and he has grown to the point we have seen him facing a Simeon needless despite he knew he had no chance. The last stage of his growth is acquiring his fragment. Once that happens, fear for your life, Arclight!

I expect Teruyama will come back with fashion.

Sekirei07 · 2010-01-24, 12:30

^ Arclight wont fear if he can learn it lol

Avvesione · 2010-01-24, 14:46

^
I don't think Arclight fears anyone. Although the only time I've seen him uneasy around anyone was when he met with Ishiyama in chapter 5.

Also, looking back at when Saten first used his Fifth Wave, he was right next to Aruka. I guess that means Aruka already knew of it?

Sekirei07 · 2010-01-24, 15:42

That was anime onry. Aruka was with Cruz the whole time in the manga, Saten used the Fifth Wave alone. Also remember Saten only used Fourth Wave in the anime as well?

Avvesione · 2010-01-24, 16:23

No, it was in the manga.

Spoiler for Pages 72 and 73 from Volume 6:

That's when Aruka said none of them had the chip, so Saten with his 3 bandages, put his arm on his RIGHT arm this time (not his left arm like he did in Chapter 75) and uses the Fifth Wave.

Sekirei07 · 2010-01-24, 16:29

it might be possible that Kami did not fully think out what he wanted to do with the Fifth Wave at that point in the story.

Its possible Aruka had left for Cruz before Saten fired it off as well. She did have her back to them and seemed to be moving away

2010-01-23, 11:53	Link #3041
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	3 bandages... always the biblical thing in needless. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2010-01-24, 07:09	Link #3050
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Well, Ishiyama said the fight would be over soon, so doubt Blade is gonna get up of this. Besides, even if he were , Saten would send him another taste of his power. So basically, what Sekirei07 says. Last edited by Homura7; 2010-01-24 at 08:14.

2010-01-24, 07:42	Link #3051
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	I'd go for B. Just hoping Blade won't be a joke character later on... __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2010-01-24, 08:45	Link #3053
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Now Blade is the 2ndary character. Wonder how will Yamada's brains will get them out of this predicament. Possible Gido will come back in the next chapter, rescuing Blade in a vehicle with Teruyama. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2010-01-24, 09:17	Link #3055
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Well, despite being incapable to fight and leaving that to Blade, the story has been developing always around Cruz from the beggining. Of course, after the PF explosion, many things have changed and he has grown to the point we have seen him facing a Simeon needless despite he knew he had no chance. The last stage of his growth is acquiring his fragment. Once that happens, fear for your life, Arclight! I expect Teruyama will come back with fashion. Last edited by Homura7; 2010-01-24 at 09:34.

2010-01-23, 13:07	Link #3043
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	It might be the bandages Christ was wrapped in after he was taken off the cross? I wonder if Arclight could use the Fifth Wave. Hmm thats a thought, could we just think that Saten has Positive Feedback? Not PF Zero but just the aspect of PF. Where he can use the power of the fragment beyond its natural limitations.

2010-01-23, 13:42	Link #3044
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Actually, isn't the tattoo what amplifies someones power? The Eden seed. In chapter 50, Teruyama comments how the hell Arclight can use fragment powers when he lost all of them, and inmediatly, Disk and Gido corrects him and say it's not Zero, it's Positive Feedback. Therefore, it's crystal clear it's the mark what made Saten's Fifth Wave that strong. That's the origin of the Positive Feedback, and the very reason Arclight's Zero is stronger, because he has the mark, while Blade hasn't.

2010-01-23, 22:40	Link #3045
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	Is their any biblical reference to the Left hand of God? Christ was known to "Sit at the right hand of God" but I wonder about his left. Since Saten is showing so much power with his left hand

2010-01-24, 00:22	Link #3047
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	No no it is something else, lets see. The Archangel Gabriel was called "The Left Hand of God" who was also known to be the angel of death... hmm... interesting... Blade in a tight spot all right....

2010-01-24, 00:39	Link #3048
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	I wonder what condition Blade will be in when we see him next. Saten used his tattoo and unleashed his most powerful attack. I wonder if him fighting against other Eden Seed class Needless will change his personality again... (much like Arclight's tattoo attack).

2010-01-24, 00:55	Link #3049
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	I think of really only three possible outcomes with Blade coming out A. 70% chance his ass is toasted to much to fight further B. 20% chance he will pop out with comic relief C. 10% he shows off some new/old fragment that will turn the tide

2010-01-24, 09:12	Link #3054
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	^ I don't think they can get away with just a car or something like that. Plus they are underground so transportation could only be done on a testament and with Eve's condition they can't move her. She probably melt in their hands lol

2010-01-24, 12:30	Link #3056
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	^ Arclight wont fear if he can learn it lol

2010-01-24, 14:46	Link #3057
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	^ I don't think Arclight fears anyone. Although the only time I've seen him uneasy around anyone was when he met with Ishiyama in chapter 5. Also, looking back at when Saten first used his Fifth Wave, he was right next to Aruka. I guess that means Aruka already knew of it?

2010-01-24, 15:42	Link #3058
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	That was anime onry. Aruka was with Cruz the whole time in the manga, Saten used the Fifth Wave alone. Also remember Saten only used Fourth Wave in the anime as well?

2010-01-24, 16:23	Link #3059
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	No, it was in the manga. Spoiler for Pages 72 and 73 from Volume 6: That's when Aruka said none of them had the chip, so Saten with his 3 bandages, put his arm on his RIGHT arm this time (not his left arm like he did in Chapter 75) and uses the Fifth Wave.

2010-01-24, 16:29	Link #3060
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	it might be possible that Kami did not fully think out what he wanted to do with the Fifth Wave at that point in the story. Its possible Aruka had left for Cruz before Saten fired it off as well. She did have her back to them and seemed to be moving away