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10: Amazing... | 8 | 6.06% | |
9 out of 10: Excellent... | 7 | 5.30% | |
8 out of 10: Very Good... | 31 | 23.48% | |
7 out of 10: Good... | 36 | 27.27% | |
6 out of 10: Average... | 27 | 20.45% | |
5 out of 10: Below Average... | 7 | 5.30% | |
4 out of 10: Poor... | 5 | 3.79% | |
3 out of 10: Bad... | 4 | 3.03% | |
2 out of 10: Very Bad... | 3 | 2.27% | |
1 out of 10: Tortuous... | 4 | 3.03% | |
Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll |
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2011-10-10, 12:23 | Link #201 |
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The episode was ok. The shoutouts and cameos were nice without being jarring. The union and HRL officers were a nice surprise, and I heard that you could spot Mirai, but I wasn't able to find her.
It was somewhat jarring to see how the main characters were drawn digimon style, and all the background characters were drawn more or less normally. The story clearly has potential, but it didn't do too much to get me caught up in it. It really bugs me though that the gundam has a spoiler on its back. And to finish this off on a positive note, the evening event was very pretty.
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2011-10-10, 12:51 | Link #205 |
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Little tip I'd recommend for people looking to enjoy this show but who are still clearly really apprehensive. Watch the show for the content, not for how much it follows a formula or how much you care for the character designs or not. It'll really help in the long run not to get hung up on particulars just because the franchise has a long history.
Then again this is coming from someone who couldn't possibly give less of a damn about something as superficial as the character designs (Though if it matters to people I've actually taken a liking to them cause they are quite refreshing IMO) so there's not even a hint of a hang up there with me. If people are really THAT butthurt over the designs and how it follows certain tropes that are almost impossible not to when it comes to Gundam (it being Gundam and all) then this show is definitely a no hoper for them right off the bat as has been kind of sadly illustrated by this first episodes reception. If those people stick around though and are still complaining about things like that though in 10 episodes then god help this forum as it'll be just like it was when 00 was airing and nobodies going to want to visit it much anymore. Last edited by Kaioshin Sama; 2011-10-10 at 13:01. |
2011-10-10, 13:19 | Link #206 | |
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Appearance has nothing to do with age, unless you're a very little kid, an adult that is not a lead, or extremely old. Especially for main characters, the same design can mean anything from 8-30. I don't really understand most of the complaints either; I mean rarely do people complain that high school girls consistently look like grown supermodels in anime.
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2011-10-10, 13:21 | Link #207 | |
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2011-10-10, 13:42 | Link #209 | |
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Now, you are spending a lot of time engaging in blanket ad hominem attacks. Which does nothing to improve the atmosphere of a discussion thread. For the record, I gave the episode an 8 (which you can see if you click on the poll), so it's not like I'm one of those people who are bashing what is popular, to paraphrase your words. Even with the various issues I have with the show, I am an unabashed Gundam fanboy. That said, if you're unable to see why some Gundam fans (and I'm not talking about someone who's only watched Gundam since 00 or Destiny, but someone who grew up with the franchise from the get-go), may have some reservations with a six-year old looking protagonist, combined with the first Gundam series to not be rated R or PG13 (based on MAL), thus leaving open the possibility that the main character's youth is not going to be counterbalanced by the horrors of war as in Victory Gundam, then you're simply incapable of understanding people might have differing opinions than your own. Which is fine. There's no law of the universe that you must understand that opinions are opinions. I'm just suggesting you keep the ad hominem attacks to a minimum to keep the thread from devolving into a sewage pit.
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2011-10-10, 13:43 | Link #210 | |
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Anyway I this may take some getting used to by most but come on every gundam series has had It's own staple that sets it apart from the others besides I watch it because its mecha.
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2011-10-10, 13:58 | Link #211 | |
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But the amount of people who tend to enjoy these series usually far exceeds the haters, and these people do tend to get very protective of their favorite series... So I'm not sure why they should be caring that much. I'm sure Gundam Age, like most other Gundams, is going to sell really well and plenty of people will have enjoyed it in the end. If it bothers you so much, just don't even give them the attention. You aren't required to care about them, and your enjoyment should not be destroyed by the few people who come to dislike it. For what it's worth since oyu tend to see me a more critical person, I thought this episode was just fine and I enjoyed it very much so. I kind of feel many of the criticisms are misplaced or are tunnel visioned WAY too much.
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2011-10-10, 14:09 | Link #213 |
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hmm.....well for starters the first episode wasn't really that captivating (gave it a 7) compared to the last couple of gundam series, but as I'm a gundam fan I would be surely following it.....
well the art style doesn't bother me much (rather I like it) , and am not gonna complain about the age of the main cast as long as the story is good. just hoping that the UE wouldn't really be aliens as stated, that would be such a bother as it practically ruined the 00 movie for me.... Last edited by Black Eye; 2011-10-10 at 14:35. |
2011-10-10, 14:09 | Link #214 | |
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You already should know Bandai would never let that happen...as matter of fact that's the whole reason the main character of turn-a looked like a trap...
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2011-10-10, 14:23 | Link #215 | ||
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The one thing I do know is that the most common "criticism" I've seen is that the opener was in fact actually like a Gundam opener so if that's the shows biggest "flaw" the show has going on right now it must be doing okay.
Like I said earlier though, truly I am hard pressed to find a single real flaw with the opener. Really, truly and honestly I can't think of anything of significance. As Archon pointed out a few pages back it Quote:
From my perspective I just don't see it as a valid flaw that drags the show down in any way in and of themselves. It has nothing to do with the content of the actual show so much as it looking like something people brought up just as something to dock it on. If something like the Kid meets Gundam aspect of the franchise really bothers people then so be it (though it's a wonder that any of them ever got into the franchise in the first place if they actually ever did, which sometimes I sort of doubt), but I've been through every Gundam series to date and I'm not bothered by things like a kid jumping into the mecha he helped to built cause I've come to expect it. Plus it makes perfect sense within the context of the episode and it was even alluded to that Largan ought to pilot the Gundam being a real pilot and all, but that Flit having the most familiarity with operating and testing the Gundam should be the one to pilot it in those dire circumstances. As for the character designs, clearly that comes down to a preference as opposed to anything to do with the quality of the show itself. It's a superficial aspect IMO and not something that can be used to prove fault or flaw in the show itself....at least not at this time. Are the designs poorly drawn, do they look off model, is there any particular reason why they don't fit in? These are the things people should be seeking to prove, not merely mentioning them and claiming them as flaws in the show in and of themselves. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if people are going to criticize the show, why not do a better job of it rather than just desperately trying to look for anything to dock it on and playing what I like to call "find the flaw" as the sole pretense of their posting here (admittedly I'm being premature on that accusation, but I've been through the Gundam 00 threads so I can assume that sort of thing will be a weekly posting feature by more than a few). It's okay if you don't like the show, that's perfectly fair and well within ones rights, but owning ones own subjective misgivings and intent to criticize as opposed to projecting them onto the show as the sole source of them goes a long way in getting you taken seriously by other posters who do appreciate it as well as those who do have their facts straight about this opening episode. Quote:
It's still early days, but the warning signs are kind of already there as far as I'm concerned. If some people (and they know who they are) cut their losses and move along right now it'll be fine, but I really don't feel like entertaining certain types of "criticisms" by certain people and spending a good chunk of my time correcting and discounting them instead page after page instead of posting about and discussing the actual content of episodes with chums like in any normal thread for any normal franchise with any normal fanbase. That's not my ideal forum experience and after 00 it's definitely not the one I want again for a Gundam series so hopefully it doesn't have to happen like that again. |
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2011-10-10, 14:46 | Link #216 | |
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2011-10-10, 14:53 | Link #217 |
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The problem with there being far more fans then there are haters is that the fans are content with the way things are, and thus rarely speak their mind--leaving the haters as a very vocal minority. I'm also certain that AGE will sell well and become a hit--but I also know that at the same time, the places to talk about it will be an utter mess as the trolls come out of the woodwork, just like last time. As I've experienced on ASuki in at least three different subforums, this one included, these haters will do their best at driving out the more reasonable people who get tired of the whining and the raging.
I'm tired of having to give up discussing something enjoyable because everyone else is too busy hating on something. So if that means I have to argue the good points with them, then so be it. The reason I am making this "ad hominem" attacks about the character design criticisms is because I know that a lot of it is hypocrisy and people targeting it for the sake of having a target. If you think I'm personally attacking you when I talk about everyone whose guilty of what I'm pointing out, that's your problem. And yes, Reckoner, I did notice your positive review and was surprised by it. But forgive me for feeling that kind of attitude won't last on this forum, from you or from others. After several seasons of poster bullshit, I know better than to think the warm reception will remain. Like Kaioshin said, you weren't here for the 00 season 2 clusterfuck of trolling. I, on the other hand, was.
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2011-10-10, 14:56 | Link #218 | |
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The background is nice but the designs are just so I don't know about you guys but the adults' design minus the professor look a lot better than Flit and his friends. http://randomc.net/image/Gundam%20AG...P%20-%2007.jpg The kids, just the main ones, stick out like a sore thumb. http://randomc.net/image/Gundam%20AG...1%20-%2011.jpg I mean seriously....It's not a deal breaking but I'm hoping this guy will get the axe soon. On that matter some people were talking about red herrings or spoilers on the back of the Gundam. What were those? Aside from the UE destroying their own ally. |
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2011-10-10, 15:00 | Link #219 | |
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As for the herrings, most people feel it was the constant speculation of the UE being aliens--most figure that it'll only cement them actually being a human organization, and it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. But I'm content with seeing where it goes, and I won't have a problem if they're human or alien.
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2011-10-10, 15:18 | Link #220 | ||
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IMO, given the fact that it's been 14 years and Humanity is still around and only encountering random attacks, they are not completely genocidal, especially since they spared Flit when they attacked his home. Hell they even scanned him as well. I'm thinking that they are relics or have links to the Gundam AGE from the wars a long time ago. Akin to maybe Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow in that they are actually robots (No actual pilots) following a set of protocols, hence why they haven't wiped out humanity despite being able to do so, by some crazy man that died. Hell it may turn out they are not the true enemies and are trying to get humanity to advance their tech, which being 14 years later is pretty pathetic on humanity's side.... |
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