2013-01-28, 11:46 | Link #1141 |
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Spice & Wolf was a low magic setting, while in the LN and the manga MaouYuusha is a high magic setting, but the anime is attempting to portrait the world of MaouYuusha as a low magic setting, hence anything relating to it (the hero overwhelming power, high level magic spells, etc.) has been removed altogether.
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2013-01-28, 12:19 | Link #1142 |
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Episodes 1-4
My feelings are mixed for this show. There are some interesting elements here like the agricultural revolution, and Demon King's negotiations, but they're not connected well enough to the story for my liking. My first issue is the lack of proper names. A lack of names in a show like Humanity Has Declined is fine because it's a satire, and this lack serves a narrative purpose. The same lack in Maoyuu works against it because the characters and places are supposed to be concrete entities with unique characteristics. Without proper names, they lose impact and become genericized.
Next, it's good for Hero to lose his stupid headband, but why did Demon King have to lose her horns? They were her best feature, and she looks unbalanced without them. I know that there have been a lot of comparisons between Maoyuu Maou Yuusha and Spice & Wolf, but I don't think that they are very justifiable at this point. Spice & Wolf is characterized by the interaction of the leads and how each brings their unique talents into play in their adventures. However, this show can be summed up as "Demon King does stuff while she explains it to Hero". The lack of balance is exemplified in Episode 4 as Hero finally does stuff, and he has to be nowhere near Demon King to do it. I'm dropping this show as of now, but I may pick it up if later episodes get better. The problem is that the anime hasn't been able to sell the problems of the Demon world. Without that, all of Hero's adventures boil down to "Hero does some unimportant stuff off-screen". It's a very odd production choice that hurts the show quite a bit.
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2013-01-28, 16:13 | Link #1143 | |
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If it's the studio's artistic choice to make the anime this way, then I don’t think even bigger budget and more episodes will solve the problem.
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2013-01-28, 21:01 | Link #1144 |
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Yeah, from what I can deduct this anime should be about making fun of many classical RPG tropes, but as it is now it is just "The Adventures of Maou and ???". I would even dare to say the from here on if Hero is not with Maou or any of her female henchwomen, he will be reduced to a non animated slideshow. IMO reducing him to a pixelated chibi avatar in his fights would pack at least some comedy.
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2013-01-28, 22:28 | Link #1145 |
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I sense that the anime may be avoiding the over-reliance on magic. If someone can use magic to power up a light source, then the next logical question would be : can magic not be used to do other things? In a world in which magic is common-place, is it not logical to use it to improve our lives?
Why, then, would the anime need to show Maou's various innovations? Why not have the council of mages (or whoever is in charge of magic) provide magical high-yield, pest-resistant crop that can grow in rocky, dry soil? Why use a compass, if magic can provide unerring GPS-like navigation accuracy? If magic can be used to provide safe, reliable heat or kinetic energy, then basically magic has become the power source that would usher in the industrial revolution. |
2013-01-28, 22:49 | Link #1146 | |
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1) Magic is not an energy source, it is a means to an end, the energy comes from world itself *flashbacks of Goku doing a genkidama* The results of over reliance on magic can be seen in the latest manga chapters of Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic or in Dark Sun setting for good old pen & paper D&D. 2) Magic is powerful and world changing, but only a few people can wield and magic users usually aren't into feeding the populace by themselves; if everyone could wield magic and with a mere thought blast his enemy into pieces, well, you will get the results seen in the anime Spoiler:
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2013-01-29, 01:38 | Link #1148 | ||
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2013-01-29, 04:45 | Link #1152 | |
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You seem to be confused. This is not a war of good and evil. That was the whole point; killing the other side achieve nothing. I would explain more, but I would wait for you to re-watch the episodes with the idea that humans are NOT the "good guys" and the demons are not the "bad guys".
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2013-01-29, 06:27 | Link #1153 |
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When did i ever say humans are good or evil. They could all be the same race for that matter but the fact is they are 2 sides that are at war. Helping the other improve their food production and navigation ability would not make them think "hey, we got enough food. Lets stop fighting." Just look at our history. Once a country is strong, they will think of invading and exploit other weaker countries.
In times of peace with an allied country maybe it would make sense. Maybe she hopes that the south country will get strong enough to invade the central countries. |
2013-01-29, 07:45 | Link #1154 | |
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You need to see that in this world, there is no incentive for peace. Both sides have forgotten how to NOT have wars. There is no plan, no project, for how to run a country that isn't fighting somebody. There is no industry that can survive in peacetime. People are fighting not because they want to win, but because that's the only thing they know. Because there is no other way to keep the economy moving, and to ensure everyone is employed. Is there going to be some fighting later? Yes. Eventually there will be actual battles as those who want war will use force to maintain the current world. But the Demon King and Hero is making sure when the time comes, they got both allies and resources to win the fight.
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2013-01-29, 07:54 | Link #1155 | ||
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2013-01-29, 07:56 | Link #1156 |
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the key is that the southern country are essentially the "mercenaries" for the central nations if they want to start a war with demons. The wager being that they could provide food to Southern Countries and use them to control those countries.
By providing the means for the Southern countries to self-sustain, there's no need for them to listen to the words from the Central, which means that the human will have less size for an invading army. Conversely, by making them self-sustained, they are able to support their own armed forces to protect themselves if Demon decides to start another battle, and doesn't have to rely the support from the Central to arrive. You have to realise that human are not one uniformed nation. They each have their own agenda, and while the war is keeping a nice balance at the moment, sooner or later it will crumble down hard if nothing is being done about the root of the problem. While it's a legitimate reason to worry about the possible ambition of the Southern Countries, by helping them to grow and defend themselves, both maou and yuusha could potentially have a say in their politics. Not to mention Yuusha is powerful enough to force things to happen if people are being idiots. Ideally, it's a win-win strategy.
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2013-01-29, 09:32 | Link #1157 | |
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Alliance is another problem. Unless they can profit from other ventures over war, they may become powerful enemies since war is driving the current economy. |
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2013-01-29, 10:26 | Link #1158 | ||
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Anime is not failing to portray Hero's character. The rest of the feelings about Hero in your post are exactly what you are expected to have in your head. This is evidence that the anime is doing fine on this issue. Quote:
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2013-01-29, 14:50 | Link #1159 | |
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2013-01-29, 16:12 | Link #1160 |
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1- It's anime with demon king and hero = so it's normal that action fan will watch it...
2- If you see hero side than you will understand that not just he is strong but he is better as Maou then demon queen since in demon world > power = justice, they even call her coward demon queen that not even by her own ally respect her. But they start to thing that she might change after seeing hero take action to stop rebellion with pure force plus his promise to restore dragon city using demon queen name before the dragon clan attack human by themselves ( and end up dying for nothing since it's strongest human city in demon world >>> that why dragon chief decided to offer his own daughter as wife if he succeed) |
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