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2009-09-16, 22:50 | Link #143 | |
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Yeah, Taniguchi was a bad exemple. Is not like she ever talk to him, or about him, after that. |
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2009-09-20, 10:56 | Link #144 |
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Hello guys,
Since we're talking about Yuki's speech pattern, I would like to propose that Yuki has never had lied. Refuse to answer? yes. Use words that needs the encyclopedia for clarifications? yes. Confuse the hell out of Kyon and the readers? Hell yes. But, lie? No, haven't happened yet, to my knowledge. I think this might in a way tie with the way Yuki only calls Kyon the formal you. "Kyon" is after all not really Kyon's true name and Yuki only calls a person by his/her true name. This is further complicated by the novels hinting that Data Integrated Entity only has learned to use the concept of names very recently. They may use #13536 as substitute for names. Thus, Yuki may not have gotten the idea of nicknames. Add, Yuki's straightforward nature and you get a Yuki that will call Kyon not by his nickname as the all the other characters have done, but by his real name. Since, the author wants to remain Kyon's real name a secret, then, this the viable alternative. Now, back on the topic, of Yuki not lying. I really can't remember any instance when she has ever lied. For example. when Kyon was being given the theory of the organization and the time travelers on Haruhi which vastly conflict with one another and he asked Yuki's opinion. Yuki did not take a side and even stated that her side's viewpoint is a theory too. Another example is when she commented that the time-travelers way to err time travel cause too much noise or interference. Then later we learn the full name of that device.
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2009-09-20, 11:34 | Link #145 | |
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2009-09-20, 11:55 | Link #146 | |
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"I haven't." Nagato replied without flinching. I had a feeling she's lying. Not really a "serious" lie, but a lie it is, since she took the contact. She doesn't usually make a habit of lying, though (as far as we can tell...) and especially not about serious, urgent, or life-threatening matters. |
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2009-09-21, 18:21 | Link #152 | |
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She even said (or what I could understand from her) is that she could/would/will lie to Kyon..but that's the only thing I could get from her speech on Sighs about her opinion. |
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2009-09-22, 06:44 | Link #156 |
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Sorry about that guys... I don't know what I was thinking when I posted that or perhaps I'm just a bit tiny frustrated on what is actually fact or opinion in the Haruhi-verse that I latched on to Yuki being trustworthy, since if my sources are correct everybody in the SOS dan is currently lying to somebody else well except perhaps Haruhi and Kyon, since its his pov but he proves to be an unreliable narrator at times... sigh...
Mikuru- actively trying to manipulate the time line and in any case she doesn't give much information due to 'classified information'. Itsuki- actively says that he is wearing a masks and it isn't his true personality. Oh... well... that's just to open the discussion anyway... Next topic, do you think Yuki was DITE's first choice for the one who will observe Haruhi? Why or why not? In my opinion, Yuki was not the first choice of DITE, Ryoko is and Yuki is just to act as a background observer and supervise the situation. Yuki's recruitment in the SOS dan is a complete accident, Haruhi has just the luck to barge into a clubroom that Yuki is currently using. Evidence to this is the fact that Ryoko is in Haruhi's class and is the first to approach her. Evidence 2, would be Ryoko has more social skills than Yuki and would fit better as a normal human being. Evidence against this would be the fact that DITE does not have a linear comprehension of time and might have known what will happen already.
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2009-09-22, 07:15 | Link #157 | |
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Yes, I mean Yuki's synchronizing in BLR. |
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2009-09-22, 11:19 | Link #158 |
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While I've argued in favor of your point before, night_sentinel, I do know of the flaws. First and foremost, as freakonboard pointed out, Nagato already knew that she'd end up with Haruhi, and I doubt 3YA Nagato would keep that bit of information to herself. Second, Asakura more or less backed off as soon as Kyon started his daily talks with Haruhi.
Judging from this, it can be implied that Asakura's purpose was simply to keep Haruhi occupied until Kyon finally started the chain of events that'd lead to Haruhi taking over the lit. club's room.
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