2012-06-30, 03:10 | Link #1042 | |
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And despite her claims to make him over, she never followed through on it. Even if she disagrees with him on values, she never thought any less of him. |
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2012-06-30, 03:22 | Link #1043 | |
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The author has established the one survives rule as a foundation for his story and making exceptions for it again and again would make for a sucky story Wave and Tatsumi didn't fight only Wave did, Tatsumi was focusing more on getting away and luckily for him his teigu had the ability of invisibility . So we have one exception to the rule which is acceptable so long as the author doesn't make a habit of ignoring his own rules |
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2012-06-30, 03:25 | Link #1044 | |
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2012-06-30, 03:30 | Link #1045 | ||
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If you are excusing that fight because Tatsumi didn't have the intent to kill, then Esdeses' life still depends on whether Tatsumi wants to kill her or not. "Only one survives in a battle to the death" is not some unbreakable curse caused by the Teigu. If Wave and Tatsumi are both allowed to live because one of them did not want to kill, then Esdeses still has the possibility of surviving if Tatsumi does not want to kill her. Simple as that. Quote:
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Then there's the fact that she did not order a search for Tatsumi and left it up to "fate". Had she wanted to mold him, she would have forced him back. |
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2012-06-30, 05:05 | Link #1046 | |
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And no,one survives rule is not the foundation of this story. Its a general rule but not absolute like you seem to believe. And frankly, judging from the raws, I don't know why people are arguing about tatsumi sparing esdes or akame .If anything, it should be the other way round cause esdes is so insanely strong that I'm pretty sure she'd curb stomp the two of them. Calling it now, esdes fights tatsumi but can't bear to kill him when she wins
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2012-06-30, 07:30 | Link #1047 |
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How everyone thinks that when 2 teigus meet 1 will die... While it specifically stated that when the clash With the intent to kill 1 will oalways become a victim meaning if one out of 2 doesn't have any intent to kill even if they clash id doesn't mean 1 of them will die you know
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Knowing her she would probally happy to see how much strong Tatsumi become.(even if he give her only some challenge). Quote:
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2012-06-30, 10:12 | Link #1053 |
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Akame's sword can insta-kill someone if it cuts them. The key word is cut them. Esdes is an ice-user, and a very very powerful one at that. We've seen from other manga what ice users can do to protect themselves. In terms of power, Esdes is ahead but Akame has that super cheap sword of hers but ultimately it comes down to this. Can Akame actually get close enough to Esdes to cut her? At the moment, I think 'No'
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2012-06-30, 10:18 | Link #1054 | ||
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2012-06-30, 12:32 | Link #1058 |
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The problem is that you can't use that kind of scenario or better what you see from that games to try to understand where the author want to go with Akame ga kill. The story are way too different from what i remember.Also in all the game the most improtant route was always /or almost always the one of the Main heroine (and the close to be canon). I think the only game that change this is majikoi that have a true ending.
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2012-06-30, 12:35 | Link #1059 |
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I'm not basing on scenario of whether esdess will end up with tatsumi but based on the guys writing for those 3 games. A lot his females are pretty damn wtf strong. From this, I'm guessing the guy likes to write about strong females, especially strong females who pretty much outclass their male counterparts.
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2012-06-30, 13:02 | Link #1060 |
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Wow, this is really amazing. I mean, I've been on this boards for ages, and speculating where stories go is one of my favorite pastimes. This story is good material, since it's original and unfinished (so everyone knows the same). Knowing the author very well, I was willing to call the upcoming developments right after Gestapo-chan gave the attribute list of the guy she wanted to fall in love with. And yet, even though there are clear indications of where this story is headed, and even on a purely logical basis, the situation seems quite clear to me, I seem to remain almost isolated. Can't remember when I had this happen to me the last time
So let's collect the clues. 1) Takahiro is a happy ending guy. Tatsumi as the clear male lead will eventually fulfill his dream - a fair country with everyone happy. That's his prime goal. 2) The story pits characters against each other which shouldn't be fighting in the first place. Take Wave. Take Bors. Heck, take even Seryuu (the girl who killed Schere), even she isn't "evil" - from their perspectives, they are FIGHTING murderers. Takahiro is making perfectly clear that NO SIDE is clearly "in the right" here, as much as subjectively justified they might feel. This is why he's painting Esdese's subordinates in a positive light. And this is why in my most humble opinion, it's silly to assume that the story will end by having Tatsumi or the Night Raid defeat Esdese and her team. It won't happen like this. This wouldn't be a proper conclusion to the story goal at all. 3) The only character who is depicted as consistently evil is the Interior minister. However, I don't see the story simply ending by killing him. Rather, someone with authority needs to step up and clean house. And we have a clear candidate for that - who is far away from doing this now, yes - but who clearly has the potential to change her mind and who as the acting General has the authority to actually make a difference, facilitate the change that Tatsumi dreams of and thus removes the need for conflict between Night Raid and the government. That's Esdese. 4) Whether or not she'll go the full Darth Vader (and dies in her victorious effort) or not remains to be seen. Personally, I don't think so. There's tons of drama and friction between her and Tatsumi, so this is going to take quite a bit longer. And this is exactly the kind of setting which Takahiro loves: Strong woman in a battle for control with the male lead, until the male lead manages to cause a change of heart in the female character. So, in the very least, he will successfully thaw the Ice Queen till she leads the coup that fulfills Tatsumi's dream. And if she dies in the bed or has Tatsumi ravage her in it is up for grabs. Takahiro tends to go for the latter version Anyway, we'll have to wait and see. I say that she and Tatsumi will never fight to the death, and neither will one other Night Raider kill her. |
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