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View Poll Results: Who is the ultimate shinobi? | |||
The 1st | 24 | 5.99% | |
The 2nd | 3 | 0.75% | |
Sarutobi | 117 | 29.18% | |
The 4th | 119 | 29.68% | |
Jiraiya | 27 | 6.73% | |
Orochimaru | 10 | 2.49% | |
Tsunde | 4 | 1.00% | |
Itachi | 73 | 18.20% | |
Other...[Please State Who] | 24 | 5.99% | |
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2004-08-20, 18:32 | Link #183 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Itachi is just 16 now and even stronger than the Sannins. Just imagine Itachi in a few more years... o,o
And i would say Sarutobi was during his prime as strong as Orochimaru now is. And Yondaime... well, we do not know anything much about him, but they said, that Sarutuobi was called the strongest of the four Hokages... |
2004-08-20, 18:36 | Link #184 | |
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Correcting now........... 1. Sarutobi in his prime is alot stronger than Orochimaru, evident by the fact he handled Orochimaru so well at his old age + fighting 2 former Hokages 2. As it stands right now, Itachi is not stronger than the Sannin, but most likely on the same level. While it's true he'll get stronger as he gets older, it won't be as dramatic as it is now, after a while he will reach a platu (sp?) 3. They never actually compared the Hokages directly, IMHO Yondaime was probably the strongest, yes they say in Sarutobi's prime he was the strongest, but then again, when Sarutobi was in his Prime. Yondaime was nothing more than a kid. So it would be hard to compare Yondaime the kid to Sarutobi in his prime. On the other hand they say Yondaime is this amazing genius godlike Ninja with all these different jutsu etc etc. So who knows, I'm pretty sure Yondaime was no slouch, considering he was the youngest Hokage, it does give a nod to say he was pretty strong. |
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2004-08-20, 18:50 | Link #185 | |
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The same thing you said about the Fourth can be said about Itachi, even more, Itachi is seventeen and he is already in the same league or a little above them. Yondaime became Hokage at age 24 or something like that. |
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2004-08-20, 18:57 | Link #186 |
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This is in my opinion silly.
What does Hokage mean? The Strongest man in the village. Sandame was alive while Yondaime was elected, thus he surpassed him and Sarubobi wasn't old then. if Yondaime would have taken over after Sandaime died, this discussion would be difficult, but he became Hokage while Sandaime was alive, so he had to have surpassed him. |
2004-08-20, 19:24 | Link #187 | |
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They can retire early you know? Look how young the First and Second Hokage when they retired, not to mention that Orochimaru was the First Candidate to take over the Hokage mantle, but wasn't because of his evil way, thus the Fourth was chosen. The Third was already old, 65 years of age or something like that, so he is bound to retire at that age, and give the tittle to his successor. The Third lasted so long as Hokage because there weren't any Sannin around to name one his successor before he died. Last edited by Last of the Uchiha; 2004-08-20 at 19:56. |
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2004-08-20, 19:39 | Link #188 | |
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So i dont think it really means anything, except that the 3rd was getting old, and picked his predecessor. It also doesnt help that we know very little about 4th, or how strong he was. Just because he developed a technique that can seal souls doesnt mean hes strong. |
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2004-08-20, 19:56 | Link #189 | |
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2004-08-20, 20:12 | Link #190 |
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This question was already answered in Naruto...
The strongest counting them at their prime was Sarutobi. As said by Oro and everyone else in the series. So I would say the 3rd Hokage was the strongest when he was in his prime. Also note that the 4th was referred as the 'greatest'. I would think because he saved the village from a rampaging demon. He was never stated as the 'strongest' if I recall correctly. Though I would put him right under Sarutobi in the strongest thing. Seeing as how he seems stronger than the sannins and the sannin he shares fighting sytles with(assuming he does but he probably does) is equal with Itachi |
2004-08-21, 01:00 | Link #192 |
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I'd say the 3rd from what I've seen and heard in the forums, but the series seems to hint that the 4th was the uber ninja. He certainly was above Oro since Oro didn't attack the leafs until he was out of the picture (and the 3rd became an old geezer). He had invented a few high powered jutsu's.
A few examples... When the 3rd realized that Oro was summoning the hokages of old he made it a point stop the forth from being summoned. Anko's comment about "if only the forth were here..." Tsunade's comments in the diner/sake house. Ok i talked myself into voting for the 4th. |
2004-08-21, 01:21 | Link #193 | |
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(sen's) My vote is Itachi, oro is probly the strongest of the 3 sen's since he was almost able to take on both without his arms... mind you they were also injured, but not as much as oro. Oro admited the itachi is stronger then him, so that puts Itachi above oro. (well, ok itachi isnt a sen... but still he needs a catigory!) mind you Oro might be stronger at his prime only because were not sure if weve seen his prime.. with his imortality thing and all he could easly become the strongest ninja ever. (hokage's) bettween the 3rd and 4th,,, if the third was a stronger then the 4th.. then why was the 4th the only one who could stand up to the 9 tailes? Because the 4th was stronger! (all around) I would have to say naruto had the most potential out of everyone. Why? Because he has a very hard working personality (much like rock lee) he has a fair bit of talent,and he had the Power of the 9 tails at his desposal! the 9 tails was feared by everyone, even the third and forth.... and mixed with narutos power, i think he would be increadibly strong. |
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2004-08-21, 03:10 | Link #194 |
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I would say the 3rd is likely the strongest only because I don't know how strong the 4th is in his prime. You have to remember that the 4th died young, who knows how strong he could have gotten if he had survived. The 4th might have been even stronger than the 3rd when the 3rd was his age. While the 3rd is given the title the strongest Shinobi, that is only because the 4th never made it to his full potential.
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2004-08-21, 05:10 | Link #195 | |
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Saru only made it a point of stopping the 4th being summoned coz not only would it be hard fighting two Hokages, imagine fighting three. I mean for someone to take out two Hokages, thats a damn big statement and evidence of his strenght. |
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2004-08-21, 10:20 | Link #197 | |
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2004-08-21, 10:57 | Link #198 | |
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2004-08-21, 11:25 | Link #199 |
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In his prime, I would say the 3rd, as it was said several times it's not for nothing that you're called the God of the Shinobi and the strongest Hokage ever.
After that between the other Hokage, the Sannin or Itachi, I don't really know. I think they're basically more or less all around the same kind of level. The 4th couldn't be very stronger than Oro or there wouldn't have been any question for the next Hokage, as the 3rd said Oro was rejected because he's twisted, not because he was weaker. The case of Itachi is a little particular due to his jutsu, basically if you don't know what the Sharingan and worse the Mangekyou can do, you're doomed. You can find ways to counter that but you need to study that before, Zabuza found a way only because he survived the first fight against Kakashi thanks to Haku and because once again Haky analyzed their fight. Same with Gai, being the rival of Kakashi, he analyzed his way of fighting and sought a way to fight against a Sharingan user. But if you don't know that just looking at the Sharingan is a big no-no then you're pretty much dead meat. Information is as important as strength in a ninja fight. |
2004-08-21, 11:29 | Link #200 | |
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Oro hasn't gotten any weaker. I think the point of his immortality jutsu is to not get weaker by getting an old body... The 3rd was still very old when Kyuubi attacked. He was definitely not in his prime. And the 4th beat Kyuubi with a combination of a huge summon and jutsu. The 3rd knows that jutsu but not sure if he has a huge summon like that to grasp hold of Kyuubi. And anyways like I siad the 3rd was still old then. Around his late 50s. And it has been stated many times that the 3rd was the strongest ninja alive hwne he was in his prime, by Oro, and the entire village. Though the 4th was the greatest probably becuase of his accomplishments. And how old was the 4th compared to Oro during the 'hokage selection'? I'm sure the 4th would have grown and surpassed Oro sometime between that to the sealing of Kyuubi. |
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