Kanon - Speculation & Theories (for first time viewers)

[xris]

This thread is aimed at first time viewers of Kanon and its purpose is to allow spoiler free speculation and theories to be aired. Having them in a central location may help focus the discussion instead of spreading speculation over the various episode discussion threads. If you are knowledgeable of either the original series and/or the game, then please do not post in this thread (use the Kanon - Spoilers & Speculation thread) and do not give away any spoilers!

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[Lost]

My guess is that Ayu was a shinigami who came to claim Yuuichi, saw the Taiyaki stand and couldn't take it; cried because she was so hungry. Later, when the boy she was supposed to take bought her Tayaki, she became indebted to him. Oh, she lost her deathnote.

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Okay sorry, xris, serious now. Lets see.. sad girls in snow.

Spoiler for Total speculations, but just in case:

As far as I know, two of the girls are not from the human world. Makoto doesnt (edit: didn't. heh heh) know what a pron magazine is. Ayu doesnt know what a cellphone is (I'm not too sure about Mai yet).

I think that Ayu is an angel. What she has to do with Yuuichi, I really can't guess, but since shes looking for something she lost, I can only presume that something would be a link to her past (seeing that she was asking for the cakeshop that wasnt there anymore). She lost something in the past, and shes still looking for it. Its as if she jumped the gap between past and present. Also, for some reason, only Yuuichi can find it for her, or what she lost is mysteriously connected to Yuuichi.

Its obvious Makoto is not a human, but the question is what is the cause of her hatred? Did Yuuichi do something to her, to her parents, or her pack, or her home? Maybe it has something to do with that barley field that gave way to the School. Then again unlikely, Makoto walked into the school. Then again, she has amnesia. Then again, it should trigger something.

Mai. Nagato Yuki Mai. A demon hunter, roving the school with a katana. And she knows what Makoto really is. She's not a normal girl, duh, but theres really too little I know about her to make a speculation. She's got a friend in Sayuri, which is interesting, because shes the kind of girl noone would friend. Going totally off-course, and despite what Yuuichi thinks, I'll say Sayuri knows about about Mai's secret; and is somehow connected to it.

Then theres Nayuki. From the dream sequence at the start of each episode: Did Yuuichi kill/horribly injure her? Or did she kill/horribly injure Yuuichi? From that sequence, it all takes place in a forested area, the forest next to a barley field?

Kaori. She has trouble at home. Its complicated. I don't know.

Shiori. Sick girl in snow, who doesnt seem to have an older brother. She finds herself irresistably drawn to Yuuichi, and in one episode, was standing in snow to meet someone unknown. Unless that who she wanted to meet was Yuuichi. Except for this attraction to Yuuichi, I'm buying her normal-girl-with-a-cold story, so far.

Really, all this is just a mess to piece together. One question tho, can the stories of all the girls be pieced together? As in, are they all related to each other?

You probably already realise that the above is all just crap really.

[orion]

So, is this a 1st timers thread (speculate only) or the old-timers thread (spoil away)? Totally confused now.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by Lost

You probably already realise that the above is all just crap really.

oh yea its all obvious bull that runs around in circles
j/k btw

heres my take on each of the charaters it soo far...

Spoiler for speculations:

ayu ~ shes a strange little girl...so far weve only really seen her:
1) smashing into yuuichi
2) falling over
3) eating/stealing Taiyaki
4) say uguu a lot ^_^
but on a serious note she doesnt seem ot have a home...she is always wearing the same clothes and she doesnt look as old for her age compared with the other...
she remembers yuuichi as being a friend in the past but yuuichi doesnt remeber a dam thing...childhood friends? possible strong spiritual connection?

nayuki ~ she seems normal enough...so far not much of her has been revealed apart from that she is a sweet gentle cousin of yuuichi...that cannot wake up even if a bomb went of next to her

makoto ~ obviously have an eternal grudge against yuuichi...for reasons unknown cause surprise surprise she has also lost her past memory
but for some reason yuuichi loves to pick on her and play pranks...he turns immature and a bully around makoto...but this could be fate :rolleyes
the tip that mai gives to yuuichi brings about impending doom...prepare a box of tissues...

Shiori ~ like nayuki not mush about shiori has been said atm...all we know is that shes a sickly girl that likes to wander around school grounds in nothing but a shirt and a blanket...can she seriously be that sick? i mean a normal person will freeze to death nevermind one who already has a cold...
i expect her to have a complex story like the other girls and as speculation can she even feel the cold?

mai ~ ahh the demon hunter with powers beyond mortals she seems to be quite tough and have the emotions of a rock...but i can care to speculate that she wasnt like that in her younger years...some event must have happened that turned her into some that she is now...silent and emotionless...
yuuichi is trying his best to get her o be more open and i can honestly say i hope it works...
she also seem to have the powers to see into someone...makoto?

and again this is totally speculation/bull crap

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by orion

So, is this a 1st timers thread (speculate only) or the old-timers thread (spoil away)? Totally confused now.

first timers!! tbh if the oldies say anything it will pretty much spoil a lot of things >.< and ofc it will be hard for 2nd timers to lie about the situations in the first place...

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by Lost

FPB, that was a great description of both of them! Those two are adorable really, they can share my No. 1 spot.

I try

The speculation thread got shut down, and I feel like I'm going to explode if I don't get this off my chest:

Spoiler for newbie theories:

Ayu: Some people said she might be an angel. Possible, but I doubt it. Probably does have real wings tucked up somewhere, though. I think that she's not human, but even she's not aware of this (yet). I was thinking 'android,' but she actually looks much smaller in the past, so that probably won't pan out.

Makoto: Fox. Pretty obvious to me, but I don't know how everyone else feels about it.

Mai: Insufficient data.

Sayuri: Really insufficient data.

Kaori: Insufficient data.

Shiori: The girl with the plan. What is that plan, exactly? Who knows. I bet it's something epic, though.

Nayuki: She seems fairly normal. The fact that she's related to Yuuichi more or less rules out any non-human identites.

Akiko: Same as Nayuki.

Am I the only one who noticed that the people in this town seem a bit xenophobic? Wonder why.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

Spoiler for newbie theories:

Ayu: Some people said she might be an angel. Possible, but I doubt it. Probably does have real wings tucked up somewhere, though. I think that she's not human, but even she's not aware of this (yet). I was thinking 'android,' but she actually looks much smaller in the past, so that probably won't pan out.

Spoiler:

i can actually see ayu sprouting wings in the OP O.o shes an angel! ^__^

Spoiler for right side of the screen:

[nani]

Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

Spoiler for newbie theories:

Am I the only one who noticed that the people in this town seem a bit xenophobic? Wonder why.

Spoiler:

Hmm... don't think so. What makes you think this way?

If Akiko, Kaori and even the Taiyaki stall's owner is of any indication, they are quite friendly to people they do not know.

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by nani

Spoiler:

Hmm... don't think so. What makes you think this way?

If Akiko, Kaori and even the Taiyaki stall's owner is of any indication, they are quite friendly to people they do not know.

Spoiler:

Akiko is Yuuichi's relative, and Kaori is Nayuki's friend, so they already have personal ties to Yuuichi. And what merchant in his right mind is going to be rude to a customer - especially one that hauled a thief back to him?

It mostly stems from Kaori's line: "Nayuki's the only reason you were accepted in this class" or something to that effect. It gave me the impression that people wouldn't have been too happy about him coming in if he wasn't Nayuki's cousin.
I could just be readign way too much into stuff, though. This show will have you doing that

[HazardNights]

Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

Spoiler:

Akiko is Yuuichi's relative, and Kaori is Nayuki's friend, so they already have personal ties to Yuuichi. And what merchant in his right mind is going to be rude to a customer - especially one that hauled a thief back to him?

It mostly stems from Kaori's line: "Nayuki's the only reason you were accepted in this class" or something to that effect. It gave me the impression that people wouldn't have been too happy about him coming in if he wasn't Nayuki's cousin.
I could just be readign way too much into stuff, though. This show will have you doing that

Spoiler:

You know that comment did stand out. First I figured what was meant by it that she was the reason why he got put into her class. Then again that idea that he wouldnt' have been accepted at all by those around had not been for their connection is something I hadn't considered.

Could everyone else have some idea of what happen when it comes to what Yuuichi can't remember (what we haven't been shown yet)?

Is there anything like that in future parts of the story?

[orion]

Originally Posted by Effect

Spoiler:

You know that comment did stand out. First I figured what was meant by it that she was the reason why he got put into her class. Then again that idea that he wouldnt' have been accepted at all by those around had not been for their connection is something I hadn't considered.

Could everyone else have some idea of what happen when it comes to what Yuuichi can't remember (what we haven't been shown yet)?

Is there anything like that in future parts of the story?

Spoiler:

Of course, sweet Ayu is an angel. Could anyone doubt that smile?

I thought that Kaori's line was alittle odd too given that Yuichi is a cute and likeable guy. He probably would have fit in, but it wouldn't have been immediate. He certainly would have had more dates without people knowing where he lived imo.

Well, yeah. That's the whole premise. Yuichi is back and he has to remember to resolve stuff is part of the issue. We're actually being shown parts of what he has to remember all along in the prologues and his flashbacks.

Giving too much away isn't nice for the 1st timers.

[Lost]

Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

I try

The speculation thread got shut down, and I feel like I'm going to explode if I don't get this off my chest

It got reopened?

Originally Posted by Effect

Could everyone else have some idea of what happen when it comes to what Yuuichi can't remember (what we haven't been shown yet)?

Is there anything like that in future parts of the story?

That's a good point. Maybe they know. And I'm guessing it wasnt pleasant at all. And I think it definitely has everything to do with the "umei" part at the beginning of each episode. We know someone gets hurt. Maybe he hurt Nayuki in a bad way, and the community wasn't too happy; so its only by Nayuki's grace that he can return.

(please move these to the Speculations thread)

[Deathkillz]

you know i think that the whole community has some hidden dark secrets...i mean look at all the ppl there that are loosing their memories =O it can all be coincidences...methinks some magical forces are at work here *shiver*

[aliensporebomb]

Speaking as one who has watched the earlier series I have a theory
but I've never actually seen it explained, confirmed or refuted so I'm
going to chime in on my own personal thinking about her commentary:

It's not really a spoiler since it doesn't really have any bearing or
outcome on how the story turns out, it's just interesting.

Spoiler:

I've personally thought Kaori's comment may have related to the
fact that, as head of the track team, Nayuki may actually be well
on her way to class-rep level and perhaps her academic record is
such that there is some level of political influence on getting a
student who (as the case may or may not be) the best student
into class.

I'm not saying that Yuuichi is a bad student. But he is kind of
mischievous and I could see some schools potentially seeing a
behavior problem when it comes to him.

Okay, possibly a lousy theory but it came to mind.

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

you know i think that the whole community has some hidden dark secrets...i mean look at all the ppl there that are loosing their memories =O it can all be coincidences...methinks some magical forces are at work here *shiver*

If I see a giant black robot pop out of the streets, I'm fricking done.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

If I see a giant black robot pop out of the streets, I'm fricking done.

It is safe to say that there SHALL be NO mecha in Kanon. Unless people start piping crack to KyoAni's studio.

Cheers.

[Meophist]

Originally Posted by Skane

It is safe to say that there SHALL be NO mecha in Kanon. Unless people start piping crack to KyoAni's studio.

Cheers.

I was thinking of saying that myself, but then realised that it could be considered a spoiler. Anyways, I have to say, I like hearing what the new guys have to say about the show. My previous experience with spoils me.

With that, I'm out. Have fun!

[KaneDragon]

Yeah, Ayu is sprouting wings in the op, that could be hinting at something... :P A spoiler crafted by the anime director? Not that I care. Uguu~ ;_;

And about Makoto...

Spoiler for possible spoiler based on an image macro I saw on 4chan:

It was a picture of a baby fox, with the line "Makoto: making people furry since (whenver)". So she's a fox? Hawt. I guess that's her reason for having no memories. Maybe she's a foxy princess, whose family was brutally murdered by demons? Or a semi, whichever comes first. ;_;

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by KaneDragon

And about Makoto...

Spoiler for possible spoiler based on an image macro I saw on 4chan:

It was a picture of a baby fox, with the line "Makoto: making people furry since (whenver)". So she's a fox? Hawt. I guess that's her reason for having no memories. Maybe she's a foxy princess, whose family was brutally murdered by demons? Or a semi, whichever comes first. ;_;

Spoiler for Makoto:

If this really is true, my head will start spinning because, looking back through the series, I can't figure out how I came to this conclusion when I did. Maybe I actually saw the original and had my memory erased immediately after

My guess is that Makoto's grudge has a lot to do with the school. It used to be a field (there's a shot of Yuuichi and Mai(?) running through a field in the OP). Maybe Makoto blames Yuuichi (for reasons unknown at this point) for the loss of her home? Whatever shows up at the school at night may also have something to do with this.

[Lost]

But if it was demons responsible, why hate Yuuichi? About the School-Grudge theory, I was thinking that too, but what does Yuuichi have to do with the school and razing of barley field? Unless, she just says she hates him for the sake of saying it, tho I doubt it.

I'm sure Ayu's an angel, look at the ED's last line: "A small angel will descend."