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aohige · 2015-01-13, 05:49

The coefficient of Bonus Armor and Mastery was so high, I don't think a mere 11% boost in haste alone will make that much of a difference to prot pally.
At most it would make it not-as undesirable. But combined with Sacred Duty, it could be quite drastic... the result will be interesting.

However, on DPS classes it should be pretty drastic.

Hooves · 2015-01-13, 06:36

With Sacred Duty getting nearly quadrupled in numbers. It just means a huge stack of haste for prot pallies. The reason why it could very well be our best stat is because of how it affects our GCD. It's the very reason why haste was god for both ret and prot back in Mists. The faster we can get more holy power can mean more Shield of the Righteous, which means more overall controlled damage reduction.

Once again, we'll simply have to rely on simcrafting and analysis to see if it truly surpasses Mastery.

GDB · 2015-01-13, 16:45

Really wish the Inn/Tavern let you search by ability, race, or trait. My Warrior went in this week saying "I need a Blood Elf". Options were... Tauren, Undead, Tauren. He has zero Totemists (+Tauren boost trait), so I had to go with the super uninteresting looking Undead (none of them had options for good abilities like Group Damage).

RWBladewing · 2015-01-13, 18:45

So...look what I saw happen during my garrison campaign quest today:

http://imgur.com/FxbCcLi

Gee, thanks for sending your "elite" warriors to help with my Garrison, Vol'jin. Maybe Garrosh was right about you trolls after all...

(On the other hand, I watched Tuulani kill all the enemies that came after her. Cute AND deadly...)

GDB · 2015-01-13, 18:51

I've heard Tuulani goes into beast mode during invasions. Seen a lot of people recommend her for the patrol slot, along with Vivianne (and whatever the Alliance equivalent is) as your Bodyguard.

Awrya · 2015-01-13, 19:02

Speaking of that, I noticed that some followers have a much higher health pool than others at the same iLvL. The normal iLvl 645 follower has ~125k, for some reason Tuulani has 1.7M and others at 245k or more. Any reason for that?

RWBladewing · 2015-01-13, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Awrya

Speaking of that, I noticed that some followers have a much higher health pool than others at the same iLvL. The normal iLvl 645 follower has ~125k, for some reason Tuulani has 1.7M and others at 245k or more. Any reason for that?

I don't know for sure but my guess is it's because she's also an elite npc in a max level instance and they just carried over her stats from there without really thinking about it.

GDB · 2015-01-13, 19:48

That's what I would figure too.

Last Sinner · 2015-01-13, 22:53

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Originally Posted by GDB

I've heard Tuulani goes into beast mode during invasions. Seen a lot of people recommend her for the patrol slot, along with Vivianne (and whatever the Alliance equivalent is) as your Bodyguard.

What zone was Vivianne from?

GDB · 2015-01-13, 23:07

She's like, the second follower the Horde gets. You fly to Ashran and pick her up. Her main thing is that she's a mage who uses Blizzard a lot, so great for AoE.

Last Sinner · 2015-01-13, 23:21

Alliance equivalent would be Delvar Ironfist, which we get sent to Ashran for at 91. Is one of our five bodyguards and one of the two Alliance-only bodyguards (the other being Defender Illona from Talador). Also the only Death Knight we get via zones.

Ithekro · 2015-01-14, 00:53

He uses Death and Decay a lot.

Defender Illona is a paladin tank. I'm about to start using her as a bodyguard instead of the Talonpriest because I want to level him and Ironfist to epic. Illona is already epic.

Illona is also a dancer now.

aohige · 2015-01-14, 03:06

Oh GODDAMIT Blizzard, I really liked Baros.

The bitch will pay for this.

Ithekro · 2015-01-14, 05:22

She released the Worgan. Death is upon her.

(Shipping doesn't work in Warcraft)

Last Sinner · 2015-01-14, 05:59

Yeah, falling in love in the WoW universe is pretty much a flag for getting flocked up.....

Ithekro · 2015-01-14, 06:43

Love...yeah that can get you killed in Warcraft.

But what about a harem?

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Kyero Fox · 2015-01-14, 08:14

Yall remember this is Warcraft right? Alliance gets all the fanshitting while the Horde gets a few sharts here and there.

I bet Cordana or what ever her name is (Kadgar's NE Bodyguard.) gets killed off too like our Maraad did.

GDB · 2015-01-14, 09:28

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Originally Posted by Last Sinner

Yeah, falling in love in the WoW universe is pretty much a flag for getting flocked up.....

Unless you're Green Jesus.

Speaking of whom, there's a large growing hope, even among Horde, that he dies in this expansion and we bring back Durotan and the Frostwolves like how Alliance are all but guaranteed to bring back Yrel and the Draenai.

Last Sinner · 2015-01-14, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDB

Unless you're Green Jesus.

Speaking of whom, there's a large growing hope, even among Horde, that he dies in this expansion and we bring back Durotan and the Frostwolves like how Alliance are all but guaranteed to bring back Yrel and the Draenai.

Sigh....ever since how Nagrand ended, people seem to be convinced Thrall is the villain and Garrosh was a martyr...whatever...

GDB · 2015-01-14, 10:12

I have never once seen anyone say anything even close to that. All I've seen is people tired of him hogging the spotlight, feeling he's too overpowered (he was the Aspect of Earth, after all), and feeling that the rest of the Horde cannot get proper lore advancement while he's around. Add in the Alliance getting Yrel and her Draenai, and the Horde are likely to get something. Durotan and the Frostwolves are the Horde equivalent, but it'd be weird to get Durotan while still having Thrall around.

Also, they hate Aggra, and as long as Thrall's around, so is she.

2015-01-13, 05:49	Link #9041
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	The coefficient of Bonus Armor and Mastery was so high, I don't think a mere 11% boost in haste alone will make that much of a difference to prot pally. At most it would make it not-as undesirable. But combined with Sacred Duty, it could be quite drastic... the result will be interesting. However, on DPS classes it should be pretty drastic. __________________

2015-01-13, 19:02	Link #9046
Awrya U mad? Join Date: Apr 2012	Speaking of that, I noticed that some followers have a much higher health pool than others at the same iLvL. The normal iLvl 645 follower has ~125k, for some reason Tuulani has 1.7M and others at 245k or more. Any reason for that? __________________

2015-01-13, 23:21	Link #9051
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	Alliance equivalent would be Delvar Ironfist, which we get sent to Ashran for at 91. Is one of our five bodyguards and one of the two Alliance-only bodyguards (the other being Defender Illona from Talador). Also the only Death Knight we get via zones. __________________

2015-01-14, 00:53	Link #9052
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	He uses Death and Decay a lot. Defender Illona is a paladin tank. I'm about to start using her as a bodyguard instead of the Talonpriest because I want to level him and Ironfist to epic. Illona is already epic. Illona is also a dancer now. __________________

2015-01-14, 03:06	Link #9053
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Oh GODDAMIT Blizzard, I really liked Baros. The bitch will pay for this. __________________

2015-01-13, 16:45	Link #9043
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Really wish the Inn/Tavern let you search by ability, race, or trait. My Warrior went in this week saying "I need a Blood Elf". Options were... Tauren, Undead, Tauren. He has zero Totemists (+Tauren boost trait), so I had to go with the super uninteresting looking Undead (none of them had options for good abilities like Group Damage).

2015-01-13, 18:45	Link #9044
RWBladewing Salt Levels Critical Join Date: Oct 2007	So...look what I saw happen during my garrison campaign quest today: http://imgur.com/FxbCcLi Gee, thanks for sending your "elite" warriors to help with my Garrison, Vol'jin. Maybe Garrosh was right about you trolls after all... (On the other hand, I watched Tuulani kill all the enemies that came after her. Cute AND deadly...)

2015-01-13, 18:51	Link #9045
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	I've heard Tuulani goes into beast mode during invasions. Seen a lot of people recommend her for the patrol slot, along with Vivianne (and whatever the Alliance equivalent is) as your Bodyguard.

2015-01-13, 19:48	Link #9048
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	That's what I would figure too.

2015-01-13, 23:07	Link #9050
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	She's like, the second follower the Horde gets. You fly to Ashran and pick her up. Her main thing is that she's a mage who uses Blizzard a lot, so great for AoE.

2015-01-14, 05:22	Link #9054
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	She released the Worgan. Death is upon her. (Shipping doesn't work in Warcraft) __________________

2015-01-14, 05:59	Link #9055
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	Yeah, falling in love in the WoW universe is pretty much a flag for getting flocked up..... __________________

2015-01-14, 06:43	Link #9056
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Love...yeah that can get you killed in Warcraft. But what about a harem? Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

2015-01-14, 08:14	Link #9057
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Yall remember this is Warcraft right? Alliance gets all the fanshitting while the Horde gets a few sharts here and there. I bet Cordana or what ever her name is (Kadgar's NE Bodyguard.) gets killed off too like our Maraad did. __________________

2015-01-14, 10:12	Link #9060
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	I have never once seen anyone say anything even close to that. All I've seen is people tired of him hogging the spotlight, feeling he's too overpowered (he was the Aspect of Earth, after all), and feeling that the rest of the Horde cannot get proper lore advancement while he's around. Add in the Alliance getting Yrel and her Draenai, and the Horde are likely to get something. Durotan and the Frostwolves are the Horde equivalent, but it'd be weird to get Durotan while still having Thrall around. Also, they hate Aggra, and as long as Thrall's around, so is she.