2008-11-05, 20:56 | Link #41 |
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^You took my facetious joke harshly (potentially personally), so I apologize (if you like, I will gladly remove my previous post if it caused offense). There was no reason to bring up the explicit representation of her past, since it was heavily implied, but, that being said, this is just a further crime that needs to be laid at the horrendously deformed feet of the inhuman Tenryubito. I can't wait to see the personalized villain (the embodiment of the horrendous Tenryubito ideals) that Luffy will fight (I hope it is not DoFlamingo, I like DoFlamingo ).
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Doflamingo's a good possibility, though. After all, we have confirmation from his earlier chat with Disco that he was heavily involved in the slave trading business.... maybe it was even his men who captured and sold the Boa sisters to those vile World Nobles in the first place. But if it isn't him, then I wouldn't doubt that the villain in question is at least connected to him.... Oh, and I think someone once made a prediction about Luffy escaping from Amazon Lily (and Momonga) by disguising himself as a female, right? Because I'd actually find it pretty amusing if that were actually going to happen. I'd love to see Luffy disguised as "Luffyzaki" from that "Obahan Time" comic that Oda did a couple of years back. I always thought Luffy looked best in an afro! |
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2008-11-05, 22:10 | Link #44 |
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Boa shouldn't be very old, so Fisher Tiger should be known by many, exceptions are possible like Luffy and Chopper. But, if he did something like that against the WG, his path might have crossed with Dragon's. And, that may also explain why Hachi decided to become a pirate (after possibly experiencing a similar kind of cruelty from the slave riders). Though I guess that must have happened after Roger died. And, if that is the case Tom might have left that pirate group before it collapsed (if he was originally a member). Since he was a ship builder even before Roger reached his peak (he couldn't have achieved that title with a ship that was not even a part of history right now, right?).
Well, in any case, Oda created another mystery arc that we can look forward to. Luffy is the captain, so he is different than others. And, if it were to be left to others, they wouldn't have exceeded number 3. Luffy is the sole decision maker, and the others follow even though the decision is approvable by the others. Regarding the new crew member, I don't know how Boa can separate from her sisters (if they were her real sisters). But, if you think of her character she would be a perfect match for Sanji's (kind of like a twisted female version of him), though she may do what Sanji does for Luffy, who would reply her with nothing, driving her crazy (creating highly enjoyable scenes). |
2008-11-06, 02:40 | Link #46 |
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I like what the spoiler has shown so far. In 1 chapter Oda turns Boa to the good side, and all her prior actions can be explained, and since those actions are not evil to begin with, those action are forgettable IMO.
Especially the part about kicking the old women. If Kuja Pirate is traditionally headed by the Empress of the Amazon Lilly, than the old women could very well be the captain at time of Boa sister's capture. And since they are freed by Fisher Tiger, not the old women, it normal for Boa to treat her as part of the reason why she and her sister are enslaved, and calling her a traitor. Because in her mind, not only did the old woman fail to protect them in the first place, she even leave them to be enslaved and fail to save them, not to mention there's always a possibility that there might not even been an attemp seeing how the old women refuse to go directly oppose to WG/Marine. One thing though, from the some of the spoiler shots, I saw the picture of Carlos, the Tenryubito that Luffy punched. It seem like the shot came up while Boa was talking about her slave day. If that's the case, than Carlos' family was the one that own Boa and her sister before, no wonder they acts the way they are now. We finally learned more about Sun's Piratethat Rayleigh mentioned, I wonder if Rayleigh knew Fisher Tiger personally.... Last edited by Undertaker; 2008-11-06 at 03:45. |
2008-11-06, 03:53 | Link #47 | |
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Im expecting some Donflamingo about this arc, since he is the king in this entire slave business.Tiger Shark might be relative to Arlong or Jinbei.Arlong is racist as hell, not so sure that he gained these racist feeling from his father who saved humans too from World Goverment's slave business while saving fishmen.
This arc can lead to so many different places from now on.The hate Luffy gathered towards this slave business in latest arcs can make Luffy to hunt Donflamingo to end it all...Or Luffy can keep searching for merman island since Tiger Fish included in storyline...Or he may simply gather his nakama back and keep getting stronger.I so badly want to see Luffy admiring Kizaru as another Lucci/Aokiji nemesis style and pursuing him.This entire mysterious haki power of Luffy can hit the limit by defeating Kizaru in the end, giving Luffy some real reputation among everyone not just WG.Besides, Kizaru is not so friendly character like Aokiji so I wouldnt mind him getting defeated by Luffy one day. Quote:
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2008-11-06, 11:29 | Link #48 | |
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Everyone has Haki in them, its just how strong or weak it is. And people like Shanks, Rayleigh, Hancock and Luffy are people with extremely strong Haki. Luffy's Haki is very strong, its just that he doesn't know how to use it actively and effectively, he only just bursts it out because of his strong emotions and will. I highly recommend, no, I urge you to read the Haki thread, just 7 pages, but its alot of words. I humbly suggest you start reading from page 3 of the thread and from my post onwards all the way to page 7: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...ki#post1821714 From there, you will get a deeper a understanding of what Haki is.
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2008-11-06, 15:13 | Link #50 |
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While it's true that Oda's version of Haki may very well have some differences from C.A.'s explanation, I do believe that the same basic idea will apply: That is, it's not really something that can be "taught". After all, it's not like we're "taught" to have ambition in real life, right? Ambition is something we have instinctively. If Luffy does get any sort of "Haki training" (which I'm really hoping won't be the case here), he'd just have to learn how to control his bursts, that's all (Luffy sucks with weapons, so I doubt he'd need to learn how to infuse Haki into arrows or swords or whatever). He can take care of things on his own from there....
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2008-11-06, 15:40 | Link #52 | |
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Based on my 'theories', everyone has Haki, just that not everyone knows how to use it effectively. The women who lived or was brought to Amazon Lily, grew up in an environment where strength is beauty, everyone wants to be strong. In this society, everyone learns how to actively control their Haki and is the force that pulls this society together. A society ruled by power under a single Empress with the strongest Haki. It doesn't matter whether their Haki is strong or weak or is not a matter of whether their Haki is strong or weak. They didn't learn to have Haki, they learnt to control their own Haki, strong or weak.
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2008-11-06, 15:56 | Link #53 | |
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Also, we can't forget to mention that they live in a strip of the ocean that's filled to the brim with many vicious sea kings. The Kuja amazons have no choice but to grow strong in an environment like that. It's really no wonder why so many of them are able to use Haki like they do. Everywhere else, most people have the convenience of superior technology and DF abilities to survive, so they wouldn't be able to develop a will as strong as those of the Kuja amazons.... Last edited by marvelB; 2008-11-06 at 16:08. |
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2008-11-06, 18:04 | Link #55 | |
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"Everyone has to breathe, but they can be taught to breathe." "Eating is an instinct, but you can also be taught to eat." "Everyone has a fear in them, but they can be taught to fear something." ---------- Anyway for actual discussion on this chapter itself, on stuff like Fisher and people who may be related to him. Dragon for one, may be related to him as people have stated. From what we've heard, Fisher climbed Red Line alone, bare handed and single handedly went against WG. It was a lone act he did himself, he wasn't doing it with anyone else. I'd like to think that Dragon was also one of those people he rescued from slavery and only from there he joined the Sun Pirates and inspired to become a revolutionist. He has a tatoo on his face, though it doesn't seem like one of those slave tatoos.
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2008-11-06, 18:36 | Link #56 |
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Great chapter. Boa tested Luffy's personality at first (take the ship or bring Margaret & Co back to life). Luffy didn't hesitate to choose the later one and kneeled down to express his gratitude, Boa surely was impressed.
Boa also said that she doesn't want to be ruled by anyone else again, so it's unlikely that she'll join Luffy (Luffy being the captain). But if she does, why not? Franky also was a leader and became one of the SHs. Boa's sisters will then keep leading the amazons once Boa decides to leave them for a while. The only problem would be the name of the ship: instead of "Thousand Sunny" we'll probably see the statue Sanji in front of the ship... But hey, Sanji will be her worshiper, so Boa would undo the curse, I mean from time to tme, at least 3 times a day, especially when the SHs need someone to cook. |
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I was trying to tie Dragon to Fisher, while thinking that Fisher only had Nakama after the incident. If Dragon had any relation to or inspiration from Fisher, it can only come after that incident. So I thought he was a freed slave. Well, it could still work if Dragon was a pirate captain who got captured as a slave and was freed by Fisher. But then I don't think it happened lol
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