Ore no Imouto - Light Novel & Manga Discussion Thread

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by tommythecat

Ayase has gotten balance and is due for plenty more, there are important events in 10 but there are also ones which have little to no importance. Visiting Hikagami's place, the entire section with the stalker is actually completely unnecessary because you can easily just show Ayase getting close to Kyousuke through helping him out. The big events like the party and the interactions between the girls are important to build up the stories direction but that wont take more than 2 episodes. I'd be pretty surprised if they did more than 2 on this volume.

Im sure the Mikagami part will be there if you have noticed in the OP Mikagami holding a naked Imouto figurine as for the stalker it may not be important but I think it will be included to satisfy the way Ayase's confession Kyousuke as a kind man who likes to help other peoples affairs and stuff mainly Kirino's gifts to him-the visit of thier father and the party are most important yes to that I agree

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by DevG

I hope in the anime, the last 3 episodes are dedicated to volume 12. Honestly, they could have made this series at least 3 seasons long. After reading the light novels which are amazing, the anime seems superbly fast pace'd. The episode with kirino in the wedding dress played out so slowly and romantically in my head especially when they walked into the concert, while the anime seemed to have just started it and ended it.

Also, they really are censoring this to the max. The scene where kirino hugs kyosuke from the back was in a darker room, they turned the light up.... The scene I anticipated alot was ruined haha

Still like seeing things come to life, but nothing beats reading them! Im going to stop reading sigs translations, there good but I dont want to spoil chaos translation, although I basically know what happens in the story.... Damn I really wish it was still a surprise, Ive never felt bad about reading a spoiler until now

I think the words "kirino ending" is the hugest spoiler, anime history for me haha. Cheers for the folks out there who had patience and havnt herd of the ending yet :P

BTW im going to re-read the novels, how do you guys read them? Do you listen to the ost's in the background?

I do sometimes, espically with the sad scenes and the sad ost. Cant wait for season 2 ost to be released!

I really hope so because if we want to enjoy Volume 12 to its fullest it at least needs 3 episodes,well for the censoring and stuff maybe they are leaving the best for last lol re-reading the novel plus watching every single episode again to get a better understanding is what i am currently doing

[Sakuratsuki]

Originally Posted by Wilshere

And one thing,before the release of the final LN all were wanting an incest end which they ''got'' (i dont think it can be counted as incest because its not clear) and now after knowing the end all are acting as lawyers saying taboo,illegal,non-moral etc... and they would rather have a non-blood related ending which most consider as a common cliche and they wont be satisfied if its not incest,what I am trying to say is WHAT THE HELL DO YOU PEOPLE EXACTLY WANT??? If you think Kyousuke is indecisive then what are you? lol

you have a great point there. But i can't understand all the commotion really? My guess is after they saw the episode about shironeko animeted they were sold ahahah and wanted an Kuroneko ending instead (joking). But for me trough the story it is hinted that he has feelings for his sister and she has feelings for him. So i am not surprised about the ending (if you could call it a real incest it is not clear at all )

The only thing i am sad about is: If you want an incest ending. GO WITH IT and say it clearly mister writter san. And not some maybe incest ending. That is why i have mixed feelings at the moment about the ending as a kirino shipper.

The ending makes me think: mmmm, is it really the way he wanted it to end or is it because he wants to avoid the explanation of social pressure consequence for kirino and Kyousuke if he chooses the incest route (because that is what i sense when being presented with no! we are siblings but a sudden kiss (maybe) ending. If it is the first one i am pleased. But if it is the second. I am like this:

[tommythecat]

Originally Posted by mayid

you have a great point there. But i can't understand all the commotion really?. Trough the story it is hinted that he has feelings for his sister and she has feelings for him. So i am not surprised about the ending (if you could call it a real incest it is not clear at all )

The only thing i am sad about is: If you want an incest ending. GO WITH IT and say it clearly mister writter san. And not some maybe incest ending. That is why i have mixed feelings at the moment about the ending as a kirino shipper.

The ending makes me think: mmmm, is it really the way he wanted it to end or is it because he wants to avoid the explanation of social pressure consequence for kirino and Kyousuke if he chooses the incest route (because that is what i sense when being presented with no! we are siblings but a sudden kiss (maybe) ending. If it is the first one i am pleased. But if it is the second. I am like this:

This is my entire problem with the ending right now, without being able to read it and judge via context as to whether it is really an incest ending or he did all this to make Kirino happy and they both knew it wasn't something they could continue. It is kind of like her eroge wish come true, besides the bittersweet(and ambiguous) ending to it. It just seems like they confused love and sibling love smashing it all together for a while and then parted and became closer and I assume happy now and able to move passed their troubled past.

In short I hate open to interpretation endings.

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by mayid

you have a great point there. But i can't understand all the commotion really? My guess is after they saw the episode about shironeko animeted they were sold ahahah and wanted an Kureneko ending instead (joking). But for me trough the story it is hinted that he has feelings for his sister and she has feelings for him. So i am not surprised about the ending (if you could call it a real incest it is not clear at all )

The only thing i am sad about is: If you want an incest ending. GO WITH IT and say it clearly mister writter san. And not some maybe incest ending. That is why i have mixed feelings at the moment about the ending as a kirino shipper.

The ending makes me think: mmmm, is it really the way he wanted it to end or is it because he wants to avoid the explanation of social pressure consequence for kirino and Kyousuke if he chooses the incest route (because that is what i sense when being presented with no! we are siblings but a sudden kiss (maybe) ending. If it is the first one i am pleased. But if it is the second. I am like this:

About the second sudden kiss:Either he did because he has the free wish and knowing that they will return being normal siblings again so he did it so he wont feel regret OR he is just saying screw the world I want to continue my forbidden relationship with my sister. And if you try convincing me that he can forget about what happened you must be Delusional and I cant see him falling in love with any other girl except Kirino.

[Xical]

(Have any of you notice that after end got disclosed w/o doubts , the only ones who keep posting here are the brothers and sisters in Kirino ship and the ones in the neutral one as well?)

There have much talk about vol.12, thats logical, is the end and the new released volume, but what about vol.11?
It just got completed and no one is making comments about it, so, my brothers and sisters, what are you toughts about it right now?

BTW, greetings to all the crew from the old Seanver´s forum and site.

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by Xical

(Have any of you notice that after end got disclosed w/o doubts , the only ones who keep posting here are the brothers and sisters in Kirino ship and the ones in the neutral one as well?)

There have much talk about vol.12, thats logical, is the end and the new released volume, but what about vol.11?
It just got completed and no one is making comments about it, so, my brothers and sisters, what are you toughts about it right now?

BTW, greetings to all the crew from the old Seanver´s forum and site.

Volume 11 is more of a flashback of Kyousuke's past and the reason he stopped being ambitious or trying to showoff although some hints can be found that he really does have feelings for his little sister and of course the introduction to the ''final boss'' Manami, thats it in short

[Kakurin]

Part 2 of Chapter 3 (once again some WTH moments, where I don't know whether I haven't misunderstood something). Now with the raws being online, is there still a need for me to translate that Chinese quick translation?

Spoiler for Part 2 Chapter 3:

- "-------------- let's reset and continue with the events."
- Kuroneko gets the black 'Destiny Record' from her room.
- She holds the pages towards me and browses through the pages----
- "Th, This...."
- She points at the spot she wants me to look at, while sporting a very embarrassed expression.
- Just a minute ago she still was so composed, now suddenly she's as embarrassed as this, if I hadn't decided to go out with her, I really wouldn't have known this side of her.
- I screamed "Kuronekoooooooooooooooo------!" in my head, while looking at the event at the same time.

- 'Going to the pool with senpai'

- ".... Mah, it is summer."
- To explain this modest reaction... it wasn't as heavy as I expected, only a normal date.
- "Okay, let's go. This, if you think the public pool in the neighbourhood is also suitable, then let's do this in the afternoon, okay?"
- "You really immediately do what comes into your mind... but that's alright."
- "By the way, do you have a swimsuit?"
- "Huh..."
- That was a good question. Kuroneko revealed a smile like she expected it.
- Her expression was similar to when I first saw the "Kamineko".
- "Kukuku... senpai, watch closely. This is a dark magical device (a neat bathrobe) I specially made for this event---------"
- My girlfriend smugly pulled it from somewhere behind her. It was, how should I put it... something you could call a 'Goth-loli style cat bikini'. It's colour was black, with white straps and a tail.
- "....Huh... what dou you thinkg? Not bad, is it?"
- "Your head is working, right?"
- "What... What are you saying?"
- "What should I say! This swimsuit is incredulous! If I go to the pool with a girlfriend dressed like that, I'll be regarded as a gigantic hentai boyfriend!"
- "How, how can you say it like that... I went to great lengths to make it..."
- Ku~ Kuroneko's eyes got teary. My anger suddenly dissipated and was replaced by perplexity.
- "Don't worry, don't worry, but, you clearly are of the easily embarrassed type, so you dare to go out with an outfit that could be used for a Cosplay AV?"
- "Eh....? ..... Ahm...."
- With a chiang~~~~ Kuroneko's face turned red, causing me to blush as well.
- "What, what have you said.... about my 'neat bathrobe'...."
- Ah~ I see. This girl never considered the issue of 'what to do after wearing it' and just made it.
- "Even if you want to, I can't accept it. Please allow my refusal as a boyfriend. I definetely can't allow you to wear such a revealing swimsuit in front of all these other bastards."
- "... se, senpai...."
-Don't look at my face like an idiot! Saying those words make me hugely embarrassed!
- "You're right... it's... like you say... I did not consider that, I'm sorry."
- "It, it's nothing.... it's good that you understand it."
- Huhu, Kuroneko started to laugh.
- "You really are harsh, after all pictures of your imouto in swimsuits have been published in magazines."
- "Urusai. I also can't really accept those. Besides, even if I told her that, she wouldn't listen to me."
- "......... I don't think it will turn out like your expectations."
- "Huh?"
- "If you seriously approached her 'I don't want those other guys to see the body of my sister, please don't accept those swimsuit jobs in the future, okay?', she probably would listen to you."
- "Is that so? The opinion of that girl can't be affected as easily as that."
- "Yes, indeed it isn't something that can be easily affected. But I think she would listen to you."
- "Why are you so confident about this."
- "Huhu, who knows."
- Kuroneko ended the conversation just like that.
- "Then... what shall we do? Today's event."
- "Indeed... shall we go and buy a new swimsuit?"
- "That.... really is a good proposition."
- "Right?"
- If I get the opportunity I could use it to present it as a gift. For a couple that's dating, no matter what you do together, it's a date.
- "But, before that... um"
- "? What? Don't hesistate, if you want to say something, just say it directly."
- "I want to see Kuroneko wearing this swimsuit."
- Okay, then I just put it directly, like you desired.
- "Eh? ...... Eh?"
- "Although I don't want you to wear this in the public, but I do want to see how it looks."
- "What, what do you intend to do?"
- "Change into it right here." (note, I think 'right here' means at home)
- A request coming from the bottom of the heart by a boyfriend for his girlfriend.
- "..................."
- My heart suddenly stood still, as I looked at the 'neat bathrobe' with a red face.
- I repeated it.
- "Change into it right here." (see above)
- "I understand, even without you saying it multiplel times."
- Kuroneko made a >_< face and clentched the swimsuit with both her hands.
- "... you want me... to wear thsi... at home?"
- "If you never wear it, it would be a waste, right?"
- ".... although this isn't wrong"
- "Then what are you waiting for? Didn't you make it to show it to me in the first place?"
- "In, in reality you are as demanding as this?"
- "That depends on the situation."
- To make it clear, only when solving the life-counseling problems of my imouto.
- Or when flattering Ayase.
- Kuroneko, who was staring at the bikini the entire time, finally let out a "Hah" like she had surrendered.
- "... I understand. Please wait a minute."
- Good! I resolutetely made a guts pose in my heart.

- After waiting for a couple of minutes... I suddenly paid attention to myself, how I straightly sat on the tatami. I did not intend it, but it just was the product of my nervousness and anticipation.
- My heart's pounding incessantly, my heart's pounding incessantly.... still not finished~~~~~ Kuronekoooooooooo.....!
- I think my expression right now was extremely disgusting.
- Honestly! Really disgusting!! Ueh~~~~~~~~ Even I myself realized that.
- Eh, although, it is understandable, right? This kind of impatient attitude! The feelings when waiting for the girlfriend to finish changing, that's the time one passes into nirvana when going to the beach.
- To tell the truth, there no longer is a need to go to the pool, right? I'm already very happy.
- Anxiously I moved around my knees, ka la... with a small sound the door was openend.
- Oh? Is she coming?
- ".... so, sorry for the wait..."
- I saw a pair of red cheeks, while Kuroneko cautiously moved in----
- ".... Uh... hu.... !"
- I was so surprised that my eyeballs nearly flew out. That's, that's not right... but...
- We did agree on the swimsuit, but the Kuroneko before me (wearing nekomimi) is standing there with a white bath towel draped around her body.
- "Wha, wha, wha... What's that? This bath towel....?"
- "It, it's not like that... this is... that... after putting it on... I indeed got very embarassed."
- "Eh? You're wearing the swimsuit underneath?"
- "O, of course!"
- "With only the bath towel covering the entire body it looks even more ero!"
- Perhaps it is like that~ Leading people to have all kinds of strange imaginations!
- Shit, it really was me who was wrong.
- "Re, really... you really have no shame."
- "Right now the question of whether I was shameful is no longer important, quick, remove that bath towel."
- Today, I'm a person who's really honest towards himself.
- Facing my full-of-desire demand, Kuroneko tightly hugged herself, as if to cover her body.
- ".... don't want to"
- "Eh~"
- We've already reached this point! I desperately want to see that swimsuit...
- "If, if you make this expression like you are about to cry... I'll also feel bad."
- I, did I make this kind of expression?
- Kuroneko nodded.
- "I can understand your anticipation. Huh... but this humiliation... my soul won't survive it."
- Slowly ------ the more Kuroneko spoke, the more denpa she sounded.
- Or she, how to put it best... expecting me to accompany her in that chuuni-style?
- If it's like that, unless I equip a new graphics card (?) it's not possible.
- I stood up and pulled out a style like an actor (?)
- "Then... then how should we do it?"
- ".... you honestly ask... 'how should we do it'? This kind of inexplicable thing (?) ... 'black beast'... if you mean to turn me into your thing .... then try with all your might to remove this 'outfit of darkness'... kukuku... if you can do it."
- "I see... then, I won't hesitate----"
- I suddenly appraoched Kuroneko.
- "---- let me do it!"
- "!"
- I stretched forward my hand, grabbed the 'outfit of darkness' and when I attempted to use my power, I met fierce resistance.
- Kuroneko used a shrieky voice to say
- ".... im, impossible... you possess this kind of strength... ehh..."
- "Kukuku... ha, bow before my strength!"
- And show me your swimsuit!
- Ku! I increased my strength, and pulled down the 'outfit of darkness'
- "Ahuh..."
- Standing before me with her crystal clear skin revealed was indeed a goth-loli bikini clad Kuroneko.
- It really blinded my eyesight! I did know what awaited me once I removed that bath towel... but this kind of thrill was too strong.
[illustration p.151]

- Tears rolled down Kuroneko's cheeks, her elegant body was shaking because of this humiliation.
- "Ku...huhu... this kind of humiliation... even in the eternal moments... was never experienced before...."
- I've also never seen Kuroneko show so much of her body before.
- By the way, the manner with which I pulled down the bath towel was too real, that my heart bounced incessantly.
- With a gluck I swallowed my saliva.
- "Be prepared... with this you've my property."
- ".............. eh"
- Kuroneko's eyes got big, she dropped her head and let out some kind of bothered sound.
- "Th, th, th, th, that's right... I already, no matter body or heart, have become soiled by you... "
- In truth, ever since that first date we haven't even held hands a second time.
- Kuroneko strictly raised her head, and stared at me with her wet eyes
- "Okay... from now on, I am your servant...."

- "----- na~ until when~"

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Part 2 of Chapter 3 (once again some WTH moments, where I don't know whether I haven't misunderstood something). Now with the raws being online, is there still a need for me to translate that Chinese quick translation?

Spoiler for Part 2 Chapter 3:

- "-------------- let's reset and continue with the events."
- Kuroneko gets the black 'Destiny Record' from her room.
- She holds the pages towards me and browses through the pages----
- "Th, This...."
- She points at the spot she wants me to look at, while sporting a very embarrassed expression.
- Just a minute ago she still was so composed, now suddenly she's as embarrassed as this, if I hadn't decided to go out with her, I really wouldn't have known this side of her.
- I screamed "Kuronekoooooooooooooooo------!" in my head, while looking at the event at the same time.

- 'Going to the pool with senpai'

- ".... Mah, it is summer."
- To explain this modest reaction... it wasn't as heavy as I expected, only a normal date.
- "Okay, let's go. This, if you think the public pool in the neighbourhood is also suitable, then let's do this in the afternoon, okay?"
- "You really immediately do what comes into your mind... but that's alright."
- "By the way, do you have a swimsuit?"
- "Huh..."
- That was a good question. Kuroneko revealed a smile like she expected it.
- Her expression was similar to when I first saw the "Kamineko".
- "Kukuku... senpai, watch closely. This is a dark magical device (a neat bathrobe) I specially made for this event---------"
- My girlfriend smugly pulled it from somewhere behind her. It was, how should I put it... something you could call a 'Goth-loli style cat bikini'. It's colour was black, with white straps and a tail.
- "....Huh... what dou you thinkg? Not bad, is it?"
- "Your head is working, right?"
- "What... What are you saying?"
- "What should I say! This swimsuit is incredulous! If I go to the pool with a girlfriend dressed like that, I'll be regarded as a gigantic hentai boyfriend!"
- "How, how can you say it like that... I went to great lengths to make it..."
- Ku~ Kuroneko's eyes got teary. My anger suddenly dissipated and was replaced by perplexity.
- "Don't worry, don't worry, but, you clearly are of the easily embarrassed type, so you dare to go out with an outfit that could be used for a Cosplay AV?"
- "Eh....? ..... Ahm...."
- With a chiang~~~~ Kuroneko's face turned red, causing me to blush as well.
- "What, what have you said.... about my 'neat bathrobe'...."
- Ah~ I see. This girl never considered the issue of 'what to do after wearing it' and just made it.
- "Even if you want to, I can't accept it. Please allow my refusal as a boyfriend. I definetely can't allow you to wear such a revealing swimsuit in front of all these other bastards."
- "... se, senpai...."
-Don't look at my face like an idiot! Saying those words make me hugely embarrassed!
- "You're right... it's... like you say... I did not consider that, I'm sorry."
- "It, it's nothing.... it's good that you understand it."
- Huhu, Kuroneko started to laugh.
- "You really are harsh, after all pictures of your imouto in swimsuits have been published in magazines."
- "Urusai. I also can't really accept those. Besides, even if I told her that, she wouldn't listen to me."
- "......... I don't think it will turn out like your expectations."
- "Huh?"
- "If you seriously approached her 'I don't want those other guys to see the body of my sister, please don't accept those swimsuit jobs in the future, okay?', she probably would listen to you."
- "Is that so? The opinion of that girl can't be affected as easily as that."
- "Yes, indeed it isn't something that can be easily affected. But I think she would listen to you."
- "Why are you so confident about this."
- "Huhu, who knows."
- Kuroneko ended the conversation just like that.
- "Then... what shall we do? Today's event."
- "Indeed... shall we go and buy a new swimsuit?"
- "That.... really is a good proposition."
- "Right?"
- If I get the opportunity I could use it to present it as a gift. For a couple that's dating, no matter what you do together, it's a date.
- "But, before that... um"
- "? What? Don't hesistate, if you want to say something, just say it directly."
- "I want to see Kuroneko wearing this swimsuit."
- Okay, then I just put it directly, like you desired.
- "Eh? ...... Eh?"
- "Although I don't want you to wear this in the public, but I do want to see how it looks."
- "What, what do you intend to do?"
- "Change into it right here." (note, I think 'right here' means at home)
- A request coming from the bottom of the heart by a boyfriend for his girlfriend.
- "..................."
- My heart suddenly stood still, as I looked at the 'neat bathrobe' with a red face.
- I repeated it.
- "Change into it right here." (see above)
- "I understand, even without you saying it multiplel times."
- Kuroneko made a >_< face and clentched the swimsuit with both her hands.
- "... you want me... to wear thsi... at home?"
- "If you never wear it, it would be a waste, right?"
- ".... although this isn't wrong"
- "Then what are you waiting for? Didn't you make it to show it to me in the first place?"
- "In, in reality you are as demanding as this?"
- "That depends on the situation."
- To make it clear, only when solving the life-counseling problems of my imouto.
- Or when flattering Ayase.
- Kuroneko, who was staring at the bikini the entire time, finally let out a "Hah" like she had surrendered.
- "... I understand. Please wait a minute."
- Good! I resolutetely made a guts pose in my heart.

- After waiting for a couple of minutes... I suddenly paid attention to myself, how I straightly sat on the tatami. I did not intend it, but it just was the product of my nervousness and anticipation.
- My heart's pounding incessantly, my heart's pounding incessantly.... still not finished~~~~~ Kuronekoooooooooo.....!
- I think my expression right now was extremely disgusting.
- Honestly! Really disgusting!! Ueh~~~~~~~~ Even I myself realized that.
- Eh, although, it is understandable, right? This kind of impatient attitude! The feelings when waiting for the girlfriend to finish changing, that's the time one passes into nirvana when going to the beach.
- To tell the truth, there no longer is a need to go to the pool, right? I'm already very happy.
- Anxiously I moved around my knees, ka la... with a small sound the door was openend.
- Oh? Is she coming?
- ".... so, sorry for the wait..."
- I saw a pair of red cheeks, while Kuroneko cautiously moved in----
- ".... Uh... hu.... !"
- I was so surprised that my eyeballs nearly flew out. That's, that's not right... but...
- We did agree on the swimsuit, but the Kuroneko before me (wearing nekomimi) is standing there with a white bath towel draped around her body.
- "Wha, wha, wha... What's that? This bath towel....?"
- "It, it's not like that... this is... that... after putting it on... I indeed got very embarassed."
- "Eh? You're wearing the swimsuit underneath?"
- "O, of course!"
- "With only the bath towel covering the entire body it looks even more ero!"
- Perhaps it is like that~ Leading people to have all kinds of strange imaginations!
- Shit, it really was me who was wrong.
- "Re, really... you really have no shame."
- "Right now the question of whether I was shameful is no longer important, quick, remove that bath towel."
- Today, I'm a person who's really honest towards himself.
- Facing my full-of-desire demand, Kuroneko tightly hugged herself, as if to cover her body.
- ".... don't want to"
- "Eh~"
- We've already reached this point! I desperately want to see that swimsuit...
- "If, if you make this expression like you are about to cry... I'll also feel bad."
- I, did I make this kind of expression?
- Kuroneko nodded.
- "I can understand your anticipation. Huh... but this humiliation... my soul won't survive it."
- Slowly ------ the more Kuroneko spoke, the more denpa she sounded.
- Or she, how to put it best... expecting me to accompany her in that chuuni-style?
- If it's like that, unless I equip a new graphics card (?) it's not possible.
- I stood up and pulled out a style like an actor (?)
- "Then... then how should we do it?"
- ".... you honestly ask... 'how should we do it'? This kind of inexplicable thing (?) ... 'black beast'... if you mean to turn me into your thing .... then try with all your might to remove this 'outfit of darkness'... kukuku... if you can do it."
- "I see... then, I won't hesitate----"
- I suddenly appraoched Kuroneko.
- "---- let me do it!"
- "!"
- I stretched forward my hand, grabbed the 'outfit of darkness' and when I attempted to use my power, I met fierce resistance.
- Kuroneko used a shrieky voice to say
- ".... im, impossible... you possess this kind of strength... ehh..."
- "Kukuku... ha, bow before my strength!"
- And show me your swimsuit!
- Ku! I increased my strength, and pulled down the 'outfit of darkness'
- "Ahuh..."
- Standing before me with her crystal clear skin revealed was indeed a goth-loli bikini clad Kuroneko.
- It really blinded my eyesight! I did know what awaited me once I removed that bath towel... but this kind of thrill was too strong.
[illustration p.151]

- Tears rolled down Kuroneko's cheeks, her elegant body was shaking because of this humiliation.
- "Ku...huhu... this kind of humiliation... even in the eternal moments... was never experienced before...."
- I've also never seen Kuroneko show so much of her body before.
- By the way, the manner with which I pulled down the bath towel was too real, that my heart bounced incessantly.
- With a gluck I swallowed my saliva.
- "Be prepared... with this you've my property."
- ".............. eh"
- Kuroneko's eyes got big, she dropped her head and let out some kind of bothered sound.
- "Th, th, th, th, that's right... I already, no matter body or heart, have become soiled by you... "
- In truth, ever since that first date we haven't even held hands a second time.
- Kuroneko strictly raised her head, and stared at me with her wet eyes
- "Okay... from now on, I am your servant...."

- "----- na~ until when~"

I would appreciate more translation I am dying to know whats happening !!!!

[Densetsuhakai]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Part 2 of Chapter 3 (once again some WTH moments, where I don't know whether I haven't misunderstood something). Now with the raws being online, is there still a need for me to translate that Chinese quick translation?

Spoiler for Part 2 Chapter 3:

- "-------------- let's reset and continue with the events."
- Kuroneko gets the black 'Destiny Record' from her room.
- She holds the pages towards me and browses through the pages----
- "Th, This...."
- She points at the spot she wants me to look at, while sporting a very embarrassed expression.
- Just a minute ago she still was so composed, now suddenly she's as embarrassed as this, if I hadn't decided to go out with her, I really wouldn't have known this side of her.
- I screamed "Kuronekoooooooooooooooo------!" in my head, while looking at the event at the same time.

- 'Going to the pool with senpai'

- ".... Mah, it is summer."
- To explain this modest reaction... it wasn't as heavy as I expected, only a normal date.
- "Okay, let's go. This, if you think the public pool in the neighbourhood is also suitable, then let's do this in the afternoon, okay?"
- "You really immediately do what comes into your mind... but that's alright."
- "By the way, do you have a swimsuit?"
- "Huh..."
- That was a good question. Kuroneko revealed a smile like she expected it.
- Her expression was similar to when I first saw the "Kamineko".
- "Kukuku... senpai, watch closely. This is a dark magical device (a neat bathrobe) I specially made for this event---------"
- My girlfriend smugly pulled it from somewhere behind her. It was, how should I put it... something you could call a 'Goth-loli style cat bikini'. It's colour was black, with white straps and a tail.
- "....Huh... what dou you thinkg? Not bad, is it?"
- "Your head is working, right?"
- "What... What are you saying?"
- "What should I say! This swimsuit is incredulous! If I go to the pool with a girlfriend dressed like that, I'll be regarded as a gigantic hentai boyfriend!"
- "How, how can you say it like that... I went to great lengths to make it..."
- Ku~ Kuroneko's eyes got teary. My anger suddenly dissipated and was replaced by perplexity.
- "Don't worry, don't worry, but, you clearly are of the easily embarrassed type, so you dare to go out with an outfit that could be used for a Cosplay AV?"
- "Eh....? ..... Ahm...."
- With a chiang~~~~ Kuroneko's face turned red, causing me to blush as well.
- "What, what have you said.... about my 'neat bathrobe'...."
- Ah~ I see. This girl never considered the issue of 'what to do after wearing it' and just made it.
- "Even if you want to, I can't accept it. Please allow my refusal as a boyfriend. I definetely can't allow you to wear such a revealing swimsuit in front of all these other bastards."
- "... se, senpai...."
-Don't look at my face like an idiot! Saying those words make me hugely embarrassed!
- "You're right... it's... like you say... I did not consider that, I'm sorry."
- "It, it's nothing.... it's good that you understand it."
- Huhu, Kuroneko started to laugh.
- "You really are harsh, after all pictures of your imouto in swimsuits have been published in magazines."
- "Urusai. I also can't really accept those. Besides, even if I told her that, she wouldn't listen to me."
- "......... I don't think it will turn out like your expectations."
- "Huh?"
- "If you seriously approached her 'I don't want those other guys to see the body of my sister, please don't accept those swimsuit jobs in the future, okay?', she probably would listen to you."
- "Is that so? The opinion of that girl can't be affected as easily as that."
- "Yes, indeed it isn't something that can be easily affected. But I think she would listen to you."
- "Why are you so confident about this."
- "Huhu, who knows."
- Kuroneko ended the conversation just like that.
- "Then... what shall we do? Today's event."
- "Indeed... shall we go and buy a new swimsuit?"
- "That.... really is a good proposition."
- "Right?"
- If I get the opportunity I could use it to present it as a gift. For a couple that's dating, no matter what you do together, it's a date.
- "But, before that... um"
- "? What? Don't hesistate, if you want to say something, just say it directly."
- "I want to see Kuroneko wearing this swimsuit."
- Okay, then I just put it directly, like you desired.
- "Eh? ...... Eh?"
- "Although I don't want you to wear this in the public, but I do want to see how it looks."
- "What, what do you intend to do?"
- "Change into it right here." (note, I think 'right here' means at home)
- A request coming from the bottom of the heart by a boyfriend for his girlfriend.
- "..................."
- My heart suddenly stood still, as I looked at the 'neat bathrobe' with a red face.
- I repeated it.
- "Change into it right here." (see above)
- "I understand, even without you saying it multiplel times."
- Kuroneko made a >_< face and clentched the swimsuit with both her hands.
- "... you want me... to wear thsi... at home?"
- "If you never wear it, it would be a waste, right?"
- ".... although this isn't wrong"
- "Then what are you waiting for? Didn't you make it to show it to me in the first place?"
- "In, in reality you are as demanding as this?"
- "That depends on the situation."
- To make it clear, only when solving the life-counseling problems of my imouto.
- Or when flattering Ayase.
- Kuroneko, who was staring at the bikini the entire time, finally let out a "Hah" like she had surrendered.
- "... I understand. Please wait a minute."
- Good! I resolutetely made a guts pose in my heart.

- After waiting for a couple of minutes... I suddenly paid attention to myself, how I straightly sat on the tatami. I did not intend it, but it just was the product of my nervousness and anticipation.
- My heart's pounding incessantly, my heart's pounding incessantly.... still not finished~~~~~ Kuronekoooooooooo.....!
- I think my expression right now was extremely disgusting.
- Honestly! Really disgusting!! Ueh~~~~~~~~ Even I myself realized that.
- Eh, although, it is understandable, right? This kind of impatient attitude! The feelings when waiting for the girlfriend to finish changing, that's the time one passes into nirvana when going to the beach.
- To tell the truth, there no longer is a need to go to the pool, right? I'm already very happy.
- Anxiously I moved around my knees, ka la... with a small sound the door was openend.
- Oh? Is she coming?
- ".... so, sorry for the wait..."
- I saw a pair of red cheeks, while Kuroneko cautiously moved in----
- ".... Uh... hu.... !"
- I was so surprised that my eyeballs nearly flew out. That's, that's not right... but...
- We did agree on the swimsuit, but the Kuroneko before me (wearing nekomimi) is standing there with a white bath towel draped around her body.
- "Wha, wha, wha... What's that? This bath towel....?"
- "It, it's not like that... this is... that... after putting it on... I indeed got very embarassed."
- "Eh? You're wearing the swimsuit underneath?"
- "O, of course!"
- "With only the bath towel covering the entire body it looks even more ero!"
- Perhaps it is like that~ Leading people to have all kinds of strange imaginations!
- Shit, it really was me who was wrong.
- "Re, really... you really have no shame."
- "Right now the question of whether I was shameful is no longer important, quick, remove that bath towel."
- Today, I'm a person who's really honest towards himself.
- Facing my full-of-desire demand, Kuroneko tightly hugged herself, as if to cover her body.
- ".... don't want to"
- "Eh~"
- We've already reached this point! I desperately want to see that swimsuit...
- "If, if you make this expression like you are about to cry... I'll also feel bad."
- I, did I make this kind of expression?
- Kuroneko nodded.
- "I can understand your anticipation. Huh... but this humiliation... my soul won't survive it."
- Slowly ------ the more Kuroneko spoke, the more denpa she sounded.
- Or she, how to put it best... expecting me to accompany her in that chuuni-style?
- If it's like that, unless I equip a new graphics card (?) it's not possible.
- I stood up and pulled out a style like an actor (?)
- "Then... then how should we do it?"
- ".... you honestly ask... 'how should we do it'? This kind of inexplicable thing (?) ... 'black beast'... if you mean to turn me into your thing .... then try with all your might to remove this 'outfit of darkness'... kukuku... if you can do it."
- "I see... then, I won't hesitate----"
- I suddenly appraoched Kuroneko.
- "---- let me do it!"
- "!"
- I stretched forward my hand, grabbed the 'outfit of darkness' and when I attempted to use my power, I met fierce resistance.
- Kuroneko used a shrieky voice to say
- ".... im, impossible... you possess this kind of strength... ehh..."
- "Kukuku... ha, bow before my strength!"
- And show me your swimsuit!
- Ku! I increased my strength, and pulled down the 'outfit of darkness'
- "Ahuh..."
- Standing before me with her crystal clear skin revealed was indeed a goth-loli bikini clad Kuroneko.
- It really blinded my eyesight! I did know what awaited me once I removed that bath towel... but this kind of thrill was too strong.
[illustration p.151]

- Tears rolled down Kuroneko's cheeks, her elegant body was shaking because of this humiliation.
- "Ku...huhu... this kind of humiliation... even in the eternal moments... was never experienced before...."
- I've also never seen Kuroneko show so much of her body before.
- By the way, the manner with which I pulled down the bath towel was too real, that my heart bounced incessantly.
- With a gluck I swallowed my saliva.
- "Be prepared... with this you've my property."
- ".............. eh"
- Kuroneko's eyes got big, she dropped her head and let out some kind of bothered sound.
- "Th, th, th, th, that's right... I already, no matter body or heart, have become soiled by you... "
- In truth, ever since that first date we haven't even held hands a second time.
- Kuroneko strictly raised her head, and stared at me with her wet eyes
- "Okay... from now on, I am your servant...."

- "----- na~ until when~"

I think there is need, in fact I would appreciate it.I mean the complete translation will not be released to fast.^^

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by mayid

The only thing i am sad about is: If you want an incest ending. GO WITH IT and say it clearly mister writter san. And not some maybe incest ending. That is why i have mixed feelings at the moment about the ending as a kirino shipper.

The ending makes me think: mmmm, is it really the way he wanted it to end or is it because he wants to avoid the explanation of social pressure consequence for kirino and Kyousuke if he chooses the incest route (because that is what i sense when being presented with no! we are siblings but a sudden kiss (maybe) ending. If it is the first one i am pleased. But if it is the second. I am like this:

I can understand this and I do think that there is a big possibility of him avoiding a full-blown incest ending due to external reasons. As for myself, I'm happy that Kirino gets her really romantic moment (and the true love of Kyousuke). I don't really care whether they stay together forever, as long as little Kiririn is happy.

Concerning the translation, I'll see what I can do, though I perhaps will get a little bit lazy and only do it in a summarizing style.

EDIT: Kyousuke's confession is really Kyousuke style. Lots of "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" and "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

[DevG]

Originally Posted by Wilshere

I really hope so because if we want to enjoy Volume 12 to its fullest it at least needs 3 episodes,well for the censoring and stuff maybe they are leaving the best for last lol re-reading the novel plus watching every single episode again to get a better understanding is what i am currently doing

haha I will do the same, was trying to get into other light novels but SAO or anything at the matter of fact cant compare to how much I like this series.

I really hope the author continues the drama, It be so sad if he couldnt just continue from there because the parents/friends I want to see all their reactions and see what happens!

But in the meantime, back to fanfiction. There is this one fanfiction called sibling complication and I have to say it is superb, It really feels like it was writen by the author but the styles a bit differient.

The first chapter is them accidently crossing the lines, then it all starts! The way it was made was really really good. Go check it out at fanfiction under oreimo.

[seangel92]

Was Volume 12 a dream? or were people joking?

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by SigUp

I can understand this and I do think that there is a big possibility of him avoiding a full-blown incest ending due to external reasons. As for myself, I'm happy that Kirino gets her really romantic moment (and the true love of Kyousuke). I don't really care whether they stay together forever, as long as little Kiririn is happy.

Concerning the translation, I'll see what I can do, though I perhaps will get a little bit lazy and only do it in a summarizing style.

EDIT: Kyousuke's confession is really Kyousuke style. Lots of "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" and "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

To make it easier for you maybe just translate the end(which is the most important part) anyway any translation is appreciated

[Wilshere]

Originally Posted by seangel92

Was Volume 12 a dream? or were people joking?

First of all i dont believe its a dream nor do I wan to believe it is because thats called Trolling lol its just fanfiction i am sure of that

[DevG]

Originally Posted by SigUp

@DevG, no it isn't allowed You probably better remove that link.

@tommythecat: Technically that's true. But after reading through that, I just have my doubts whether volume 12 can be covered in 20 something minutes.

haha thanks just removed it So sig can you tell me how you feel while reading the chinese translations, is it just as good as the ones from baka tsuki and chaos?

Just want to know how the experience is so far

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by DevG

haha thanks just removed it So sig can you tell me how you feel while reading the chinese translations, is it just as good as the ones from baka tsuki and chaos?

Just want to know how the experience is so far

Honestly, it's unfair to compare them. The Chinese dude is doing a quick, raw translation in super speed. It can't be expected of him to do an accurate-into-the-last-details job. But for his speed, I do think it's quite good. And remember, I may paraphrase sometimes, he doesn't. He translates every word!

[Densetsuhakai]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Honestly, it's unfair to compare them. The Chinese dude is doing a quick, raw translation in super speed. It can't be expected of him to do an accurate-into-the-last-details job. But for his speed, I do think it's quite good. And remember, I may paraphrase sometimes, he doesn't. He translates every word!

You and the chinese dude are doing a great job so far.I'm impressed how fast and accurate you two work.Sure, it isn't anything like chaos translation,but they can't be compared with each other.

[finalfury]

Originally Posted by SigUp

I can understand this and I do think that there is a big possibility of him avoiding a full-blown incest ending due to external reasons. As for myself, I'm happy that Kirino gets her really romantic moment (and the true love of Kyousuke). I don't really care whether they stay together forever, as long as little Kiririn is happy.

Concerning the translation, I'll see what I can do, though I perhaps will get a little bit lazy and only do it in a summarizing style.

EDIT: Kyousuke's confession is really Kyousuke style. Lots of "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" and "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

Regardless of whether or not it was a full blown incest ending, I think the author might be one of the few light novel authors to actually pull off an ending like this.
Not relying on the "non-blood" related cop-out was a good move imo. Also, I salute you and the person taking the time to translate like a machine.
Here's a present.

Spoiler for the gif of awesomeness:

[DevG]

Originally Posted by Densetsuhakai

You and the chinese dude are doing a great job so far.I'm impressed how fast and accurate you two work.Sure, it isn't anything like chaos translation,but they can't be compared with each other.

Yeah, sigs right. Unfair to compare, but what I really ment was does reading the chinese feel or give a differient essence then reading the english translated ones

And really respect the both of you, you are working really hard!

Man I dont know what Ill do if the novel is done for good, I really hope some one else asks for licensing rights to continue this, but the dreadful half a year wait is unbearable!

Im lucky I got into this last month, or vol 12 would have made me crazy!