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2010-07-06, 14:54 | Link #13142 |
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All my theories are crazy around Tetsuro Okonogi, but thats just my Higurashi fangirl in me trying to make mass connections between it all. Like Kinzo got his fortune not from Beatrice, but from "Tokyo".
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2010-07-06, 14:55 | Link #13143 | |
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Otherwise... 3 years to get Kanon to accept them that's my other theory and you haven't responded to it yet.
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2010-07-06, 14:55 | Link #13144 |
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True, there's not a whole lot of solid grounds for it. I'm not particularly vested in this train of thought, just trying to poke at an idea no one seems to have addressed.
Although...I would be wary of any company that would want to be bought out. Usually they have problems no? |
2010-07-06, 15:00 | Link #13145 | |
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Many internet startups disagree -- such businesses are frequently built in express hopes of being bought out. There's obviously risks on that path, but there's no longer a legwork requirement, you see. George can buy a business like that purely on his own if he has the money. For a hostile takeover, he needs to talk to hundreds of people very quickly, that requires personnel.
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2010-07-06, 15:04 | Link #13146 |
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Sorry, just didn't see the thought that the original bomb was truly Kinzo's and was needed just to erase the gold, and then somebody went and "spiced things up" a little so it actually blew up the whole mansion. Or maybe I've seen that certain theory, but it has just slipped from my mind. In any case, if it's already completely chewed through, sorry for bringing it up again.
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2010-07-06, 15:10 | Link #13147 |
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Out of curiosity, how prevalent would you say that kind of startup business was in 1986? I'm not too familiar with startup companies, but my understanding is that kind of business became common because of the internet, which doesn't really open to commercial interests till about 1988 right?
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2010-07-06, 15:13 | Link #13148 | |
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First explosion is deliberate, premeditated, and accounted for, and wrecks only the mansion or possibly even less, presumably, for a justifiable, and not even a necessarily malicious reason -- so Rosa in Ep2 survives the first bomb just by being in the chapel at the moment it goes off and isn't even bleeding from her ears. The second one is accidentally but inevitably caused by the first, and actually changes the terrain so much that captain Kawabata cannot find the wharf when he arrives on Monday. Unfortunately while we can theorise what causes the first explosion, and there's several variants that would produce workable solutions (Krauss insurance fraud, Krauss suicide, Kinzo gold chamber safeguard, Beatrice deadman switch, etc, etc), there's very little good ideas on what could the second explosion possibly be.
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2010-07-06, 15:19 | Link #13149 |
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Hmm, maybe its a combination of several of those first explosion ideas. Example: Krauss plans insurance fraud/suicide and sets up bombs all over the mansion and for whatever reason, enough to take out the wharf, to be detonated at another time when his family is all gone and he's alone on the island. BUT Kinzo has a gold chamber safeguard that blows up at 12 and then sets off chain reaction explosions all over the island?
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If George has access to the entire gold, he can even pull stuff like buy a startup working in a niche market, use it to drive prices down into the ground to devalue competitors, and then buy them up. If he just wants a business and has the gold, there's little pragmatic reasons to want his father's company specifically. If he wants to prove himself to his father by becoming his new boss, now that's another story entirely. EDIT: Quote:
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2010-07-06, 15:27 | Link #13151 |
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Curse you TNT! *shakes fist* Be more destructive!
edit: Can anyone who's gone through episode 6 confirm that the master of the island thing is 19 is exactly 19? I'm kinda scared of weird schenanigans like the whole there are no more than 18 people on the island red truth. |
2010-07-06, 15:33 | Link #13152 |
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You know, episode 6 interests me because I think of it as not complete. Has anyone ever brought up that Battler's piece was 'taken'? Why would the game go on after the king falls? Also, I'm bored.
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2010-07-06, 15:38 | Link #13153 | ||
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That much I can confirm it. Quote:
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2010-07-06, 15:52 | Link #13154 |
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I'm not saying it is, but since the game uses chess terminology and logic I find it interesting that the game didn't continue after Battler's piece was taken. Then again, it would be hard to continue if Erika no longer exists, I guess she could have just died?
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2010-07-06, 16:11 | Link #13157 | |
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And guess what she is saying JUST AFTER ? 'You are incompetent!" Yes...because even if Beato said a valid mystery theory, he didn't fought back with it... And...This theory make sense. |
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2010-07-06, 16:12 | Link #13158 |
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The sense I got from Eva solving the riddle was that she was thinking along the lines of "That's the answer?" Like she couldn't believe that it wasn't all that special. She and Rosa also seem to think the riddle is childish. Battler and Erika, to my knowledge, have no commentary on the character of the riddle, as they approach it as a word puzzle from the outset. If anyone else has solved it, they haven't offered their opinion.
Given the Qilian theory and others, I am led to conclude the following things about the epitaph are probably true:
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2010-07-06, 17:36 | Link #13159 |
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I have the same impressions as Renall, I can't disagree with any of his points.
But about the last one I think I can expand it further -There is some kind of mechanism that must be manipulated. -Erika didn't know a clear answer on how to do it. She was trying many different patterns -Erika without realizing it actually got the right pattern, some signpost changed its position as a result of that, but she didn't notice and she kept manipulating the mechanism. -It was Battler then with the help of "Kinzo" who noticed the signpost and by following it he eventually reached the golden land. I think the fact that Erika didn't know the right answer right away is quite a good confirmation of what Ryuukishi himself said: "in order to completely solve the riddle you need to actually be there in Rokkenjima."
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2010-07-07, 00:40 | Link #13160 |
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Before spoilers for EP7 came out we were speculating if there would be another new detective this time around. I think the most popular picks were Rudolf and Gohda. Rudolf becuase he has the same personality as Battler mostly. Well I just thought of something. Say this new sprite is of Jessica. Maybe it's just what she wears when she has the detective's authority? Just a thought.
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