2013-06-04, 22:56 | Link #4161 |
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I feel like such an idiot. I'm pretty sure we learned what Exterior was way back in chapter 47. When Uiharu was looking at the rumors on the rumor site after she recovered it the rumor it focused on was "Rumors that the DNA computer is believed to be a 'machine that can reproduce abilities'"
If it's a DNA computer that explains why Misaki said something about chromosomes as she used it. It also explains why the scientists felt it was okay to get rid of Misaki even though she could become a level 5, as they would have a machine that could use her powers for them now.
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2013-06-04, 23:03 | Link #4162 | |
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It would make a lot of sense. That product of the experiments on the Level Upper arc = Takitsubou's Body Clear Level Upper Network = Foreshadowing for Misaka Network AIM Burst = AIM Being = Kazakiri Hyouka Exterior = Rensa Its not that blowing but sure makes sense. |
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2013-06-04, 23:57 | Link #4164 | |
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Spoiler for Rikou crystal:
Also... more interestingly... I take it that I'm the only one who noticed this: This from Light Novel 3 which is during the Sisters Arc so I take it this isn't a spoiler. This is just talking about an urban legend afterall. "The Imaginary Number District Five Elements Institution was said to be the district that did not fit any of the numbers for the 23 districts of Academy City. And many different rumors of imaginary technology had been derived from this invisible laboratory known as the Imaginary Number District. There was the supposed AI that controlled all of the ethics, militaries, and economies of the world via the internet. There was the supposed Clone Dolly workshop that stored the DNA of great men and saints from around the world and had analyzed their genetics to the point that they could create as many geniuses as needed at the push of a button. There was the idea that the silicorandom synapses used in Tree Diagram’s processing engine could only be made with imaginary technology from the Imaginary Number District and thus could not be remade." From Volume 3 Chapter 2 Section 8. Wow... So this happened before the Sisters Arc. It makes sense. Kamachi already planned this out back then... I can see the relationship to Exterior which is a DNA computer that creates Esper powers. Last edited by dniv; 2013-06-05 at 05:24. |
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2013-06-06, 15:15 | Link #4165 | |
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常盤台中学の超能力者(レベル5)は元々単なる低能力者(レベル1)だった。 So she could just be talking about a/the level 5 (herself). The corresponding line in the anime also just specifically mentions the railgun (also Kuroko says it instead). Not to say it can't be meant as plural, but it could definitely be singular. Yes, but the furigana (what tells you how to read it) has the katakana for Level 1. Level 5 is done the same way, the actual "Level 5" is just the furigana. |
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2013-06-06, 15:47 | Link #4166 | |
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2013-06-06, 19:06 | Link #4167 |
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Well at least as I understand it, it is somewhat ambiguous. It could be referring to a group, but given that the line was changed in the anime to just be about the railgun, the fact that the follow up of that scene is Misaka saying how she would have stood in his way even if she were a level 1, and the fact that at the time absolutely nothing about Misaki was known (or even possible created by Kamachi as an idea yet) other than her power and her school, I would lean towards her talking about herself.
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2013-06-07, 18:22 | Link #4168 |
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Darn, I'm late to the discussion. Oh well.
It was a great chapter. Thanks to Dolly, Misaki went from apathic to engaged to the master manipulator we have now. The Mitori/Mi-chan theory is sound and convincing. With this much info, I bet next chapter will reveal that as true. Other theories... are not as strong, but still possible. ... I can barely wait for next chapter... BTW, I just loved the scene where the scientists were discussing Misaki, with her in the room. |
2013-06-09, 09:21 | Link #4169 |
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The Frog Faced Doctor might appear?
Heaven Canceller (the name of the frog faced doctor that knows Mikoto/Misaka 10032, Touma) and
Spoiler for Railgun season 1:
He therefore might have been at the researchers' meeting with Spoiler for railgun season 1:
This is especially true because Misaka 10032 is one of his former patients after all and something happened to her. Spoiler for railgun season 1 episode 22:
That means Gensei, if he succeeds in finding Misaka 10032, will incur Heaven Canceller's wrath as soon as he finds out. I was kind of wondering earlier why Mikoto went to his hospital and how Shokuhou knew that the clones know the doctor there since they can still repel her mental out... (Shokuhou and frog-face might know each other?) I think he might have gotten wind of what was happening from this. (Strong possiblity). I believe he's going to come in near the end of this arc and beat the darkness of AC up and Gensei. That would be really nice. Say Dolly is still alive or something, I'm sure Heaven Canceller can cure her... I think he'll be involved because at the end of Daihasesai (Index) Spoiler for Index ending of Daihasesai relevant scene:
Maybe he restores Saten, Kuroko, Uiharu's memories? I mean he knows both Shirai and Mikoto and would be able to testify about them knowing each other when it was over... I also just realized: Even if Saten finds out Touma is Kamijou Touma and sees his negation powers, she might not connect it ever to Mikoto because of the fact that she doesn't remember Mikoto... awww.... Spoiler for Light novel readers of Accelerator up to Index Daihasesai arc:
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2013-06-10, 12:35 | Link #4170 | ||||||
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And if he continued the same way as before with foreshadowing of Index stuff, then it will be something way sooner than NT7. I believe it will be more related to the events in vol. 15 - 22. Quote:
Remember that Gensei was behind the experiments on Kiyama's kids and it led to the level 6 experiments by Thelestina. And now he is related again, possibly continuing in his research. Gensei experiment with berserking powers -> Thelestina experiment -> Body Crystal -> ... -> Exterior. Quote:
Then what the hell is Dolly? She might be like miix of many DNAs that were put together, sort of like a chimera. That can explain her bad health. Quote:
So they don't really need another one, note that only computers like these can calculate curriculum. Don't forget that Heaven Canceller is Saten's doctor too, she was in his hospital during LU arc. But I think it would be too easy if they just asked the most competent person to solve their problems I mean, he is taking care of Sisters and definitely knows what to do when one of them goes missing, definitely can cure the erased memories and can prove that the teachers/students/ the guys moving Sister, were mind-controlled and get Misaki arrested because of it and since he knows a lot of about Gensei, he might know about Exterior/Dolly too. As for doctor teling Touma about punishment game, Misaka could have visited him out of visiting hours and just left a note instead. Quote:
Probably not the Misaka boyfriend one, because the rumors do not state anything concrete about him. But the other ones related to him and his ability definitely yes. It was already proven that Saten is quite good at connecting the dots when it comes to rumors. Kamachi will have to troll if she does not realises anything. |
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2013-06-16, 21:13 | Link #4171 |
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So... guys... I have a possible explanation for Kites' actions in helping Misaki: any thoughts?
Spoiler for Railgun S episode 10, Index Season 1:
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2013-06-16, 22:52 | Link #4173 |
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Oh: he's the blond scientists from the Sisters project that Misaki's working with. He is named Kites Knockwright in Railgun S (they're the same person). I think they named him in the anime because he became important in the manga later on in the Daihasesai arc with Misaki.
He's also the blond haired guy supervising the sisters project in the railgun s anime. He was unnamed in the manga. |
2013-06-17, 00:25 | Link #4175 |
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Given how even the nice Kiharas can be bastards, I doubt that Misaki would work with a Kihara at all. Since she obviously works with him willingly, she's read his mind, and since she's read his mind, he's probably not a Kihara brat.
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2013-06-17, 00:29 | Link #4177 |
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Because Gensei Kihara is her enemy at this point, given her actions during the Daihaseisai. Could she trust a child of Kihara not to betray her to Gensei? We know how dedicated Telestina was to Gensei, after all.
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