2012-07-04, 12:41 | Link #4541 |
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Then what about Hanyuu's past. Were those all lies. Also as I recall Lambda didn't have anything to do with Higurashi besides the fact that she granted Miyoko's wish to be a god. Also as I remember Hanyuu was the cruel gamemaster who trapped Bern in a logic error. This logic error being that Hanyuu lost all faith in it and thus the game couldn't continue if even the gamemaster gave up but Rika/Bern didn't and were able to keep the game going. I don't think Hanyuu and Featherine have much in common besides the fact they call others child of man but this may just be a thing that gods do as both Hanyuu and Featherine are gods.
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2012-07-04, 15:25 | Link #4543 | ||
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Which is, you know, what Hanyuu IS. Quote:
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2013-01-13, 22:48 | Link #4548 |
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When does Eva Survive?
I've just started reading Umineko in its entirety after reading Episodes 1-5 a few years ago and I've just finished Episode 1. Anyway, I remember from Ep. 4 in the world/storyline where Bernkastel recruits Ange, Eva somehow survived October 5, 1986.
I'm trying to come up with a legit theory of who kills who in Episode 1 and what troubles me is this: Does Eva survive in every game storyline, i.e. is the Ange recruitment storyline the "true" story that follows every game storyline? If she does, I have to account for her faking her death in the closed room on Episode 1 Fifth Twilight. Bleh. |
2013-01-14, 02:26 | Link #4549 |
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Eva dies at the second twilight in EP1, not the fifth. Also, the EP1 epilogue implies that the whole of that episode is a diary found in a message bottle written by "Ushiromiya Maria"; EP4 goes into more detail on this. If it conflicts with the truth by saying Eva died when she actually didn't, then that might say something about the assumptions and situation of the person who wrote it...
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2013-01-15, 16:46 | Link #4552 |
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Yeah, I think the best hints for Eva surviving in Ange's world but dying in the others can be explained by looking at certain things in EP1 and EP4 specifically. Remember the epilogue from Legend. EP1 ends with: When the Seagulls Cried, None Survived.
If Eva survived, then one can't say that "none" survived.
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I mean I'm not expecting Battler (the game) to give us answers to everything when there's 4 more episodes to go, but it's still something that got me wondering. The only logical explenation for me is that she was crushed by Battler not remembering his sin (and not even being the Battler she was looking for), not the hopelesness of victory. Quote:
Well.. To be fair when Battler started solving mysteries with blue I was like: "Noo, don't! I still haven't solved anything. Pleasebewrongpleasebewrongpleasebewrong." And only time I felt good was when Battler reached the same conclusion as me about the red truth's loophole for ep3 Nanjo's murder. And the game crushed my favorite [Kinzo, Natsuhi, Genji, Kanon, Kumasawa] theory for ep1. So at the very least I need to strike back for that one. Very well, will try solving at least some parts of it, when I have time to think in the evening. Especially since Nanjo (who already had shaky alibis at best) got several more bumps on the guilt-o-meter.
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2013-08-02, 01:27 | Link #4560 | |
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Which reminds me. At one point someone said that Beatrice killed the 18 over and over for hundreds of years.At another point it was said that this really was the 4th game. Either way, no matter which fragment. The fact that those diaries appeared together. If it was ep1, how can there be ep2 diary and vice-versa. This is just one of those for me.
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