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Homura7 · 2019-09-23, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I haven't seen it, but I'm far from having done them all. Which quests are you talking about, the Demon Lord ones, or the ones with conditions?

The quests that limit the servants you can choose, these. Apparently, when you finish your setup a window pops up in the loading screen telling that you have not meet the requirements, then kicks you out to the title screen. Your AP isn't wasted, though.

I can see they are going to do extended maintenance to fix the bug, so more free sq for us.

bakato · 2019-09-23, 16:08

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Originally Posted by Knighto

The quests that limit the servants you can choose, these. Apparently, when you finish your setup a window pops up in the loading screen telling that you have not meet the requirements, then kicks you out to the title screen. Your AP isn't wasted, though.

I can see they are going to do extended maintenance to fix the bug, so more free sq for us.

Happening to me in Asian.

Rizare · 2019-09-23, 19:05

Thanks for lineup vs Bloodaxe, Martianmage. I tried to do 3 turns with Tomoe and Melt but it just couldn't work. I couldn't 3 turn with Gil but I broke 2 bars easily and it was a matter of waiting until Gunhildr is awestruck by Bloodaxe to kill him. Arjuna alter is the one who surprised me the most performance-wise. We knew he could deal a lot of dmg but cheesing CQs? There's even a zerker Musashi setup to trivialize bride Nero CQ.

belatkuro · 2019-09-23, 19:17

I managed to do the 3 turn cheese with MartianMage's Gil against Bloodaxe. It felt good. I also copied Honako's run of Sheba but with Medb. I used 1 CS to heal her but I finished it. The only ones of last year I havent done are Leonidas, Taiga, MHXA and the finale. Havent done the new one as well.
I'm at 30 boxes right now. Getting to level my Servants feels good.

GDB · 2019-09-23, 21:14

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Originally Posted by belatkuro

Getting to level my Servants feels good.

Some day I'll remember what it's like to level more than one Servant every two months. Hopefully I can get enough exp from this event to grail Tamamo Cat to 100. Already took her to 90, but those last 10 are rough.

Cosmic Eagle · 2019-09-23, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Rizare

Thanks for lineup vs Bloodaxe, Martianmage. I tried to do 3 turns with Tomoe and Melt but it just couldn't work. I couldn't 3 turn with Gil but I broke 2 bars easily and it was a matter of waiting until Gunhildr is awestruck by Bloodaxe to kill him. Arjuna alter is the one who surprised me the most performance-wise. We knew he could deal a lot of dmg but cheesing CQs? There's even a zerker Musashi setup to trivialize bride Nero CQ.

Needs A crits to work I think...Going to try that way but with Arjunyan since I don't have Gil. Think it'll be much harder though since he has only 1A

MartianMage · 2019-09-23, 23:47

Grats on the clears guys. I just saw an amazing chacha 2T and copied the method to make a low RNG 2T:

YouTube

https://youtu.be/jTnwPqODhPM

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Really... you just need 1 Raikou buster on first turn and 1 Raikou buster on 2nd turn. You can also replace CasGil with Tamamo just don't forget to use her arts buff on CG.

belatkuro · 2019-09-24, 00:17

Took me a while to finish the Gorgons CQ. I only heard that bringing females is bad so I brought Karna as anti Divine for the sisters. The NP drain was annoying and Medusa took a while to kill. I left Stheno as the last one but she was super tanky with the card resists. The support Arjuna Alter in the last slot managed to kill her.
QSH and Arjuna Alter seems to be the MVPs of this year's challenge quests.

Homura7 · 2019-09-24, 02:40

DW is already working on fixing the bug in the Halloween rerun event. My dumbass didn't realize yesterday it was a holiday in Japan, that's why it took them a while to address the issue.

Cosmic Eagle · 2019-09-24, 06:03

lmao, you can 2t the Gorgons with Arjunyan. Use Chen Gong to throw Taunt on Arjunyan so that the attacks he receives charges his NP. Add Lancer Raikou to your start line and use her to buff Arjuna then swap her out with Waver at the start. Chen Gong NPs via MLB Kscope on turn 1.Waver charges himself on turn 1 to help CG with his NP.

Did this with reliability over repeated attempts so RNG isn't as bad (mainly pray for B chain for Arjuna when it comes to critting Rider Medusa to death at the final turn but Arjuna has high B count so it's not too bad)

MartianMage · 2019-09-24, 07:43

YouTube

https://youtu.be/OirrT1vIxEE

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Raikou 6T of Mephisto CQ. 6T is the "normal" min turn. 4T is the assumed omega esports min turn. Reason for this is the mechanic that makes Mephisto comes back in can be manipulated but we don't fully understand how it works yet.

belatkuro · 2019-09-24, 08:37

Took me a few tries. I used Kiara first but the harsh HF debuff was annoying. So I figured I'd use the one that has extreme HP. Party was Skadi, Merlin, Tamamo and support QSH. Skadi was there to block the instakill. Merlin for heals and NP gain. Tamamo died easily but QSH managed to take a few hits to have KP regain some HP. QSH went down after the break but I had KP's first skill ready to regain HP. And I had the invul of the Atlas uniform to tank his NP. Then KP just beat down on him.

Cosmic Eagle · 2019-09-24, 10:15

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Originally Posted by MartianMage

YouTube

https://youtu.be/OirrT1vIxEE

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Raikou 6T of Mephisto CQ. 6T is the "normal" min turn. 4T is the assumed omega esports min turn. Reason for this is the mechanic that makes Mephisto comes back in can be manipulated but we don't fully understand how it works yet.

Apparently, it's by order changing the unit with the attack buff

Cloudedmind · 2019-09-24, 10:31

I just started playing this three weeks ago. What is the 3T, and cheese everyone is talking about?

Rizare · 2019-09-24, 11:46

Had to use a CS to heal QSH but I have no interest in redoing those CQ just for a CS-less clear. Team was team was QSH/Skadi/Asclepios/Mashu/Merlin/Medea lily with plugsuit

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Cosmic Eagle · 2019-09-24, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Cloudedmind

I just started playing this three weeks ago. What is the 3T, and cheese everyone is talking about?

when you 3-turn or less challenge quests

Cloudedmind · 2019-09-24, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

when you 3-turn or less challenge quests

Yeah, I'm still not sure how that works.

Arabesque · 2019-09-24, 14:51

A 3-turn clear in a challenge quest specifically refers to using a team/strategy that clears a high difficulty challenge in, well, 3 turns. That requires a combination of luck (getting the right cards on every turn, getting a good starting set of cards, or just with who the enemy targets or even the amount of damage you dish out on a particular turn) and also having the right servants with their skills at a the highest level to help facilitate you clearing the challenge quest as quickly as possible. Since challenge quests are the hardest level of content this game has, many in the larger community took it as having the most efficient and quickest way to clear them, for fun or for barging rights.

Cheese, or cheesing it is a general gaming term that refers to using a strategy that is not based so much on skill as much on just using really powerful servants and maximizing their damage output that they make any potential challenge the challenge quests provide trivial. So using servants like Arjuna Alter, who has insane damage potential from their Nobel Phantasm, and who's first skill allows him to murder everything in his path with relative ease, or someone like Gilgamesh, who has a special modifier that allows his NP to do additional damage against the majority or all servants in the game, in combination with servants who can support them like Merlin, Chen Gong, Summer BB, Shakespeare, Waver etc. in order to help further increase the power of their NP and maximize their damage output further so that they can dish out more damage on top of all their insane damage.

Mind you, some challenge quests can be cleared in less than 3 turns depending on how they are set up, like 1 or 2 turns, and other need a minimum of 6 turns to clear. So its not like there is a way to 3 turn every quest if the game itself doesn't allow it.

Challenge quests in general don't really need to be cleared in 3-turns, and you can even play around and get more interesting results if you do themed clears (solo runs with a single servant, clearing it with Silver servants, clearing it with Bronze servants etc.). But people like doing it, can do it, and the community likes watching players steam roll challenges that are 90++ in terms of difficulty.

Cloudedmind · 2019-09-24, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Arabesque

snipping for space

Thanks for the explanation! I've spent most of my time in game so far just trying to get experience cards and items to level up my crew. I think I only tried one challenge quest with the Nero Fest, saw how much time I'd have to waste to clear it, and quickly went back to easier endeavors.

Arabesque · 2019-09-24, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Cloudedmind

Thanks for the explanation! I've spent most of my time in game so far just trying to get experience cards and items to level up my crew. I think I only tried one challenge quest with the Nero Fest, saw how much time I'd have to waste to clear it, and quickly went back to easier endeavors.

Sure thing!

Challenge quests are pretty much intended to be end game content for the majority of the player base that managed to clear the first part of the story, leveled up most of their servants and are looking for a challenge. If you are starting out, there isn't any reason for you to do them, since they are optional. You can just play the rest of the game without needing to be concerned with them until you get to be enough servants leveled along with their skill to be able to clear them.

IMO, some of the challenge quests are really fun and well designed, and can be rewarding when you manage to beat them ... but then there are others that are just a pain

2019-09-23, 23:47	Link #31547
MartianMage Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	Grats on the clears guys. I just saw an amazing chacha 2T and copied the method to make a low RNG 2T: YouTube https://youtu.be/jTnwPqODhPM Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? Really... you just need 1 Raikou buster on first turn and 1 Raikou buster on 2nd turn. You can also replace CasGil with Tamamo just don't forget to use her arts buff on CG. __________________ Homura: Die monster! You don't belong in this world! Kyubey: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute. Homura: Tribute? You steal girls' souls, and make them your slaves! Kyubey: Perhaps the same could be said of all religions. Homura: Your words are as empty as your soul! Lolis ill-needs a savior such as you! Kyubey: What is a loli? A miserable little pile of moe! But enough talk...have at you!

2019-09-24, 06:03	Link #31550
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	lmao, you can 2t the Gorgons with Arjunyan. Use Chen Gong to throw Taunt on Arjunyan so that the attacks he receives charges his NP. Add Lancer Raikou to your start line and use her to buff Arjuna then swap her out with Waver at the start. Chen Gong NPs via MLB Kscope on turn 1.Waver charges himself on turn 1 to help CG with his NP. Did this with reliability over repeated attempts so RNG isn't as bad (mainly pray for B chain for Arjuna when it comes to critting Rider Medusa to death at the final turn but Arjuna has high B count so it's not too bad) __________________

2019-09-24, 07:43	Link #31551
MartianMage Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	YouTube https://youtu.be/OirrT1vIxEE Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? Raikou 6T of Mephisto CQ. 6T is the "normal" min turn. 4T is the assumed omega esports min turn. Reason for this is the mechanic that makes Mephisto comes back in can be manipulated but we don't fully understand how it works yet. __________________ Homura: Die monster! You don't belong in this world! Kyubey: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute. Homura: Tribute? You steal girls' souls, and make them your slaves! Kyubey: Perhaps the same could be said of all religions. Homura: Your words are as empty as your soul! Lolis ill-needs a savior such as you! Kyubey: What is a loli? A miserable little pile of moe! But enough talk...have at you!

2019-09-24, 10:31	Link #31554
Cloudedmind Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: California Age: 38	I just started playing this three weeks ago. What is the 3T, and cheese everyone is talking about? __________________

2019-09-24, 14:51	Link #31558
Arabesque Licensed Hunter-a-holic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: United Kingdom Age: 35	A 3-turn clear in a challenge quest specifically refers to using a team/strategy that clears a high difficulty challenge in, well, 3 turns. That requires a combination of luck (getting the right cards on every turn, getting a good starting set of cards, or just with who the enemy targets or even the amount of damage you dish out on a particular turn) and also having the right servants with their skills at a the highest level to help facilitate you clearing the challenge quest as quickly as possible. Since challenge quests are the hardest level of content this game has, many in the larger community took it as having the most efficient and quickest way to clear them, for fun or for barging rights. Cheese, or cheesing it is a general gaming term that refers to using a strategy that is not based so much on skill as much on just using really powerful servants and maximizing their damage output that they make any potential challenge the challenge quests provide trivial. So using servants like Arjuna Alter, who has insane damage potential from their Nobel Phantasm, and who's first skill allows him to murder everything in his path with relative ease, or someone like Gilgamesh, who has a special modifier that allows his NP to do additional damage against the majority or all servants in the game, in combination with servants who can support them like Merlin, Chen Gong, Summer BB, Shakespeare, Waver etc. in order to help further increase the power of their NP and maximize their damage output further so that they can dish out more damage on top of all their insane damage. Mind you, some challenge quests can be cleared in less than 3 turns depending on how they are set up, like 1 or 2 turns, and other need a minimum of 6 turns to clear. So its not like there is a way to 3 turn every quest if the game itself doesn't allow it. Challenge quests in general don't really need to be cleared in 3-turns, and you can even play around and get more interesting results if you do themed clears (solo runs with a single servant, clearing it with Silver servants, clearing it with Bronze servants etc.). But people like doing it, can do it, and the community likes watching players steam roll challenges that are 90++ in terms of difficulty. __________________

2019-09-23, 19:05	Link #31543
Rizare Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Age: 30	Thanks for lineup vs Bloodaxe, Martianmage. I tried to do 3 turns with Tomoe and Melt but it just couldn't work. I couldn't 3 turn with Gil but I broke 2 bars easily and it was a matter of waiting until Gunhildr is awestruck by Bloodaxe to kill him. Arjuna alter is the one who surprised me the most performance-wise. We knew he could deal a lot of dmg but cheesing CQs? There's even a zerker Musashi setup to trivialize bride Nero CQ.

2019-09-23, 19:17	Link #31544
belatkuro Kuro-chan Join Date: Mar 2012	I managed to do the 3 turn cheese with MartianMage's Gil against Bloodaxe. It felt good. I also copied Honako's run of Sheba but with Medb. I used 1 CS to heal her but I finished it. The only ones of last year I havent done are Leonidas, Taiga, MHXA and the finale. Havent done the new one as well. I'm at 30 boxes right now. Getting to level my Servants feels good.

2019-09-24, 00:17	Link #31548
belatkuro Kuro-chan Join Date: Mar 2012	Took me a while to finish the Gorgons CQ. I only heard that bringing females is bad so I brought Karna as anti Divine for the sisters. The NP drain was annoying and Medusa took a while to kill. I left Stheno as the last one but she was super tanky with the card resists. The support Arjuna Alter in the last slot managed to kill her. QSH and Arjuna Alter seems to be the MVPs of this year's challenge quests.

2019-09-24, 02:40	Link #31549
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	DW is already working on fixing the bug in the Halloween rerun event. My dumbass didn't realize yesterday it was a holiday in Japan, that's why it took them a while to address the issue.

2019-09-24, 08:37	Link #31552
belatkuro Kuro-chan Join Date: Mar 2012	Took me a few tries. I used Kiara first but the harsh HF debuff was annoying. So I figured I'd use the one that has extreme HP. Party was Skadi, Merlin, Tamamo and support QSH. Skadi was there to block the instakill. Merlin for heals and NP gain. Tamamo died easily but QSH managed to take a few hits to have KP regain some HP. QSH went down after the break but I had KP's first skill ready to regain HP. And I had the invul of the Atlas uniform to tank his NP. Then KP just beat down on him.

2019-09-24, 11:46	Link #31555
Rizare Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Age: 30	Had to use a CS to heal QSH but I have no interest in redoing those CQ just for a CS-less clear. Team was team was QSH/Skadi/Asclepios/Mashu/Merlin/Medea lily with plugsuit Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?