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Old 2019-10-08, 12:29   Link #19601
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So Souma and Erina will definitely get married in the future, it's just that Tsukuda didn't know how to develop their relationship towards that within story so he chickened out. Damn coward. And I'm mad about this:
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There's a reason why Tsukuda made a lot of duos and made them always stick together (he gave the example of Soma/Megumi and Ryo/Alice) in the series, it's because he needed a third party to illustrate the shokugeki. He never intended for them to become couples.
The two parts I put in bold there. I mean, WTF? I thought Ryo x Alice was already confirmed?

Asahi was introduced to make Souma realize his feelings for Erina, but ultimately it was almost pointless because Tsukuda still waited until the Epilogue chapters to make him realize those feelings. And even then, all he did was give an oath to her in his heart that he would dedicate all the best food in the world to her.
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Old 2019-10-08, 13:44   Link #19602
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Bad writing~~~
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Old 2019-10-08, 13:56   Link #19603
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Pissed off all the shippers.

I call this excellent writing

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Old 2019-10-08, 14:37   Link #19604
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No, Souma x Erina is confirmed. Notice it says they'll get married later on anyway and Tsukuda just didn't want to show how because he didn't know how to develop it. It even says that Tsukuda had Souma give that inner monologue in the final Epilogue chapter as an oath to Erina because he loves her. Also, there's proof in the manga for Ryo x Alice so it turning out to not be confirmed is bad writing.
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Old 2019-10-08, 14:45   Link #19605
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You guys and the shippings... So much salt...

But yeah, the author had a great story in his hands and let it blow up epically.
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Old 2019-10-08, 14:53   Link #19606
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Did you guys miss the part where Tsukuda himself confirmed that at least Souma and Erina will definitely married (the part about Tsukuda never intending certain people to be couples didn't include Souma x Erina, though it did include Souma x Megumi)? Same for Hayama (most likely with Jun). So I have no reason to be salty about that, I'm only mad that no development for Souma x Erina was shown in the manga. All we have to go on is their inner monologue in the final Epilogue.

Ryo x Alice also seemed to be confirmed so it sucks that he apparently never intended for them to be a couple.
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Old 2019-10-08, 15:02   Link #19607
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What's confirmed is the manga ended without them together the rest is up to our imagination as author said

With the pace they progressed maybe Erina will finally say his food was delicious and confess her feelings... in his deathbed

Author's intend doesn't mean anything, he intended that they get together by the end but that didn't happen lol.
He intended Souma realizes his feelings because of Asahi but he only realized years later

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Old 2019-10-08, 15:06   Link #19608
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That's why I called it bad writing~
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Old 2019-10-08, 16:59   Link #19609
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Both bad writing and lazy writing .
The hell with can't fit with the story board reason ?
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Old 2019-10-08, 17:04   Link #19610
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I was waiting to see how users would react to this fanbook on this forum and was not disappointed. For my two cents, nothing in here changes anything. If it's not in the actual pages, then it's not canon. The only thing is now we now how Soma got his scar. Tsukuda created an open ending and that's what it'll remain unless more pages are drawn. I mean are people really going to argue that it's not an open ending because Tsukuda said he wanted them to get married in a fanbook? If that's all it takes I wish he would've went full JK Rowling and said a bunch of random stuff lol. Come on he could've said that HinakoxMegumixNene was canon and then I could be more fulfilled even though there's no evidence in story to support it other than them being in one panel together.

Best part of the fanbook is the part where he says he came up with Asahi in response to shipper fan mail. Shippers literally had a part in ruining this manga and that's hilarious.

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Old 2019-10-08, 18:13   Link #19611
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It says there:
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So Tsukuda did some romantic progress by making Soma realized his feeling and made an oath to Erina in his heart.
Souma's inner monologue in the last chapter of Le Dessert was this. Souma does lover her. And they'll get married in the future because Tsukuda just felt it was "too early". That means it'll happen later on in their lives.
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Old 2019-10-08, 18:21   Link #19612
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Maybe they'll get married in the afterlife with the way things are going

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Old 2019-10-08, 18:53   Link #19613
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I don't give two shits about what Tsukuda says will happen in the future of a story that's never going to continue. It didn't happen in the manga. It had an open ending. That's the end of it to me personally. This isn't any sort of victory.

If this gets an official translation in the future, I'll most likely buy it out of curiosity and for the artwork. I'm somewhat interested in how accurate some of these translations even are, but even they say that Soma and Erina's relationship (even if the context comment is not the personal opinion of the translator) is up to the the reader's imagination. That's an open ending.

In my opinion DragonOsman, you're so adamant about the subject that you're seeing what you want. So, I don't really see any point in a discussion even beginning.
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Old 2019-10-08, 19:32   Link #19614
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Yup. Even author said about what happen in the future. Even he intended to make SomaxErina happen. In the end, it doesn't end up with the way he wanted. It's just plain bad writing with suck open ending.
Sigh, I used to love this manga until what is that dark chef or whatever they called show up
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Old 2019-10-08, 19:56   Link #19615
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I was wondering what was up to have this topic come back, only to find out that the fanbook was out.

Honestly ... eh? I mean, ok, sure, you "wanted" the main couple to get together, and they will "probably" get together ... off screen, using our "imagination" to see how a man and woman, who had known each other for half of their lives, had been in love with each other for over a decade, had no reason to be with each other other than their own pride, eventually marry.

Okay? Is that meant to be a good ending? Are Soma and Erina getting together when they're 30? 35? 50?

Given how their pride is the only thing stopping them from hooking up, its clear they will take decades before this supposed "imaginary" happy marriage is meant to happen. What an awful ending.

The other stuff in regard to Alice and Ryo is , while Hayama marrying the woman who raised him since he was 7 and 20 years older than him is straight up

Oh, and the whole Megumi and Soma thing is whatever at this stage. I wanted Megumi to have a satisfying character arc, and her ending up with Soma or being in love with Soma like the earlier chapters implied had nothing to do with that. Should have given her the win vs. Momo, or not have her go up against Asahi. As it is, Megumi's ending is the saddest thing about this, and I honestly wish she was done better after her early chapters in the story were among the best.

I will never understand how Asahi, Erina's own blood brother, trying to marry her was meant to move the romantic subplot. Like,

As for Soma's reason to travelling, sure would have been cool to get this in the epilogue! Maybe instead of the shocking revelation of Asahi being Erina's brother who tried to sleep with her, we could have gotten a chapter about Soma coming to that realization and his reasoning for going on that trip. Alas.

As for the whole "Soma has reached his goal to surpass his father" ... did he? Soma never beat his dad for Yukihira, and he never won Blue. Hell, the manga ended before we seen him make Erina say his food is delicious. Did Soma really reach his goal?

At the end, the idea of Food Wars being Macross 7 at heart might have been the best path out of all of this, setting aside the romance and just focusing on Soma being a goofball who loved food too much like Basara loved his music over every romantic interest he had. Instead, Tsukuda split the difference and ended up with an ending that didn't address anything in the series in a satisfying manner.

I'm not mad, just disappointed and sad at how it all ended up. The Central, final arc and finale had all been really bad, but the first half of the series was such fun, I wish the series just concluded before Azami showed up.\

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Yup. Even author said about what happen in the future. Even he intended to make SomaxErina happen. In the end, it doesn't end up with the way he wanted. It's just plain bad writing with suck open ending.
Sigh, I used to love this manga until what is that dark chef or whatever they called show up
This still gets to me.

Like, he had full control. He had no reason but to just go full out, but stopped himself because "this doesn't really make sense?"

Dude, nothing made sense ever since Erina's family got focus. Azami didn't make any sense the more and more we learned about him. Asahi didn't make sense. Mana didn't make sense. What did it matter if it made zero sense for Soma to marry Erina even if it didn't make sense? Just go for it.

In the end, Tsukuda just had no vision of a Erina and Soma relationship, outside of "I guess they end up with each other, sure?".
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Old 2019-10-08, 20:55   Link #19616
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Stories that need an Author to explain what happens after the story has ended is bad writing imho. Why not just include it in your story telling instead. If you're ending your story in an open ending then keep it that way. Don't tell them how it will turn out and just let your readers come up with the "epilogue" of their own. And in my own epilogue Soma and Erina never got together because they have no chemistry. Soma went traveling abroad to broaden his horizons and will eventually meet a girl who he will later marry like his old man did. Erina continued as a headmistress of totsuki while her "brother" died of food poisoning.

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> But he's well aware that after 315 chapters and three extra epilogues, if Soma x Erina's relationship never progressed the readers would get mad and saying something like "Geez, Soma doesn't have guts!" "Come on, just realize your feeling and do something about your love life!"

So Tsukuda did some romantic progress by making Soma realized his feeling and made an oath to Erina in his heart.
Lmao at calling that a romantic progress
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Old 2019-10-08, 22:11   Link #19617
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Bah , may be i just gonna wait a doujinshi ....if someone ever draw one for Soma....
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Old 2019-10-09, 07:49   Link #19618
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The author should just keep quiet and let this SnS died for good.

The more he talked, the worse the SNS become.
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Old 2019-10-09, 10:58   Link #19619
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The more he talked, the worse the SNS become.
I'd say it's himself rather than the series that come across as worse the more he talks.
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Old 2019-10-09, 17:42   Link #19620
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^Yeah, the more I hear, the lower and lower my opinion of this guy's writing ability falls.
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