2010-12-18, 17:52 | Link #102 | |
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Now a days if you ask for examples of Tsundere from average anime watcher, you get girls like Rin (fate/stay), Asuka (EVA), Naru(Love Hina) and Kallen(Code Geass), the more aggressive ones. I suppose if you want to you can group Kuudere under the banner of Tsundere as a subtype, but that kind of leaves the "aggressive" version with no specific name. :x As for Sakaki, hers is more of a case of mistaken identity. XD I group her under Dandere, who due to her appearance (her height) and unfortunate coincidences ended up getting a "cool girl" image perceived by the rest of the cast. But we the audience know better right? I personally don't mind using non-anime slang, for instance girls like Rei(EVA) and Yuki(Haruhi) don't really fit into Kuudere nor Dandere IMO - there is no facade and the dere-dere side is relatively weak nor are they shy. Ice queen maybe, but they aren't really that cold ... just stoic. Emotionless Girl is my pick - they are not really completely emotionless, it's just that their emotional side are "weak" (in the case of Rei and Yuki if you have watched those show I think you will know why). So many opinions and ways to argue. XD The definition of Tsundere is particularity "divding", hence confusing, which was why I suggested standardizing on terms in the discussion. This is the problem with language slang I suppose, unlike natural languages themselves or "artificial" computer languages, there is no standardizing authority like dictionaries or standard organisations to properly define things. I wonder at times what the Japanese (who came up with these terms) think of the terms themselves. I got a feeling they are just a divided.
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2010-12-28, 00:41 | Link #105 |
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Its called taking a trend from a personality trait straight thru to the psychosis version that has a medical label, in other words engaging in hyperbole.
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2010-12-28, 00:43 | Link #106 | |
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So yes, if I met an anime tsundere, I'd probably want to kill myself, but usually there's more subtle characters that are like that but not nearly as nuts.
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2010-12-28, 01:04 | Link #108 |
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Just read the beginning paragraph of the Wikipedia article on that, and I could have sworn it was an article on me. :P (however reading farther does reveal discrepancies)
(disclaimer: I officially do have mental issues, and bipolar isn't one of them)
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2010-12-28, 01:09 | Link #109 | |
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As good as afk's subs generally are, there's quite a few instances like that which I would refer to as "over localization" - "fox udon".
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2010-12-28, 01:58 | Link #110 |
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I got a friend who's like a Tsundere, I talk to her once.
Me: (Joking) "Hey, I love you." HerAngry) "Idiot, you're disgusting, idiot, hearing that makes me puke." Me: (Laughing with some listeners) "Hey, you don't need to shout like that, its just a joke, It isn't true, ok" Her: (Still angry and shouting ) "Geez, just shout up! That's not funny!!!" Me: (Looks at her) " I said its a joke and yet your still angry?? What do you want, make it real?, its fine by me!!!" She shouts up qnd looks at me angry while the class are ceering "WOOOHHH, nice dude!!! Are you drunk?!, You're awesome!!!!" |
2010-12-29, 01:31 | Link #113 | |
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So we kind of have to acknowledge it.
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2010-12-29, 01:37 | Link #114 | |
Cross Game - I need more
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It is "cool" As in "cool-dere", then put into romanji "kuu"-dere. Also "defrosting ice queen" was a term used long before there was a TV Tropes. Probably long before there was an internet for that matter.
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2010-12-29, 03:47 | Link #115 |
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In the original Star Trek pilot episode in 1967, the term "walking freezer unit" was used to define a lady who later got quite hot-blooded. Yeah, the term "ice queen" and thawing/defrosting is quite old. There's a fair connection between that and several types of tsundere.
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2011-06-22, 21:35 | Link #118 | |
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I thought about starting a new thread... but this will suffice. I have a relationship with a real life small loli-ish tsundere. She's uttered every one of these lines to me, several too many times to count:
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(1. sticking her tongue out, 2. cursing at her laptop) Granted, most of the forum is pretty young... but I'm interested in hearing from anyone who is also attached to such a person.
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2011-06-24, 11:00 | Link #119 | |
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My wife has said and done things fairly similar to what yours has. She's Chinese, born and raised in China, left home to go to school in Japan when she was 16, graduated college and went to work in Los Angeles where I met her. She can be lovey-dovey one minute, and be psycho-crazy the next. Sure that could be the description of almost any woman, (and probably some guys I know too) but honestly I've never met anyone like her. She stands her ground and doesn't take guff from anyone. I don't have a lot of time right now but remind me to tell the story of when she was in her mid-30s, she punched a 60-year old+ lady in the face for cutting in line. So while she isn't really a true tsundere, she's definitely very interesting to be around. |
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2011-08-11, 07:30 | Link #120 |
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Well, I held off on this thread back when I first saw it,
Thread Necromancy no Jutsu has been initiated due to well, having encountered one for real. Now, at first I thought she was really weird for always talking to me in a bitchy way then sometimes she'd be oddly nice. Now, I suspected she was into me, but didn't pay much attention to it. Needless to say, it didn't take long for me to think that maybe she really was a tsundere. This thought, ofcourse, gave me mixed feelings to say the least. She eventually confessed, thus proving my suspicions, not that I was too surprised. The more I think about it, the more I realize how obvious it should have been, the violent tendencies (she would often kick me), that embarrassed face when you praise her despite her verbal venom, any troper would've taken that as proof right then and there. I suppose it's just one of those things. Needless to say, tsunderes are a lot of fun, maybe moreso if you can figure it out sooner. I wish I did.
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