To Aru Kagaku no Railgun S - Episode 13 Discussion / Poll

[omimon]

Is it just me or did this episode feel particularly 2008?

[Dr. Casey]

Do you mean that it seemed reminiscent of the first cour of Index I? Or that it just somehow reminded you of 2008/2008 anime?

[eiyuu99]

Accelrator is likely to leave the ruffians half-dead, maybe traumatized for life,
but if they killed themselves from reflected shots, it's their own fault.

[Random Wanderer]

So now the designated male protagonist gets to show up and solve all the problems that the mere female lead couldn't handle no matter how hard she tried.

No I don't care if his series came first. Screw that series.

Now, Mikoto, you have a few options for stopping this situation. You can destroy the entire city. The will probably put an end to the experiments. Or you can kill all of the people responsible for the experiments, starting at the top and working down.

[Ilidsor]

This episode was just fantastic 10/10. I loved the Accelerator part with the first Misaka. Actually I love everything with Accelerator but still it was very good.

They handled Misaka's breakdown very well, can't wait for the bridge scene.

No I don't care if his series came first. Screw that series.

Yes, why would you allow logic to get in the way of your hatred?

[Ihaxlikenoob]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

So now the designated male protagonist gets to show up and solve all the problems that the mere female lead couldn't handle no matter how hard she tried.

No I don't care if his series came first. Screw that series.

Now, Mikoto, you have a few options for stopping this situation. You can destroy the entire city. The will probably put an end to the experiments. Or you can kill all of the people responsible for the experiments, starting at the top and working down.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

...good one.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Ihaxlikenoob

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

...good one.

I never said they were reasonable options.

Yes, why would you allow logic to get in the way of you hatred?

I never have before, so why start now?

[Chaos2Frozen]

They're not particularly smart suggestions either.

But I guess their naivety suits Mikoto.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

They're not particularly smart suggestions either.

But I guess their naivety suits Mikoto.

They're probably the most permanent solutions to her problem. They just happen to be essentially impossible for her to accomplish because of... reasons.

[Kyouka]

railgun is the pampered lvl 5 is what this series shows me i guess

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

They're probably the most permanent solutions to her problem. They just happen to be essentially impossible for her to accomplish because of... reasons.

What's the point of impossible solutions then?

Plus if you want her to destroy the whole city because of her own issues that would make her a villain in which case why did you like her character to begin with if you want her to become a villain? And if you're okay with her being a villain then the easier solution is just ignore the clones and go back to her life.

[Sackett]

Originally Posted by Kyouka

railgun is the pampered lvl 5 is what this series shows me i guess

Well apparently she's the most sane, so she's being used as the shining example of how wonderful Academy City is.

Of course that means pampering her and making sure she doesn't find out about the dark side.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

So now the designated male protagonist gets to show up and solve all the problems that the mere female lead couldn't handle no matter how hard she tried.

Shame on her, she never actually asked for help .

No I don't care if his series came first. Screw that series.

There there.

Now, Mikoto, you have a few options for stopping this situation. You can destroy the entire city. The will probably put an end to the experiments. Or you can kill all of the people responsible for the experiments, starting at the top and working down.

Saying it is easy, putting it into work is another matter.

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I never said they were reasonable options.

I never have before, so why start now?

You can be either funny or naive, thats why they reply you that way.

[Kyouka]

Originally Posted by Sackett

Well apparently she's the most sane, so she's being used as the shining example of how wonderful Academy City is.

Of course that means pampering her and making sure she doesn't find out about the dark side.

she's the most sane because she's the least involved with the dark side!

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

What's the point of impossible solutions then?

Plus if you want her to destroy the whole city because of her own issues that would make her a villain in which case why did you like her character to begin with if you want her to become a villain? And if you're okay with her being a villain then the easier solution is just ignore the clones and go back to her life.

I believe you are missing the point. I am not listing what would be, could be, or should be done. Only what must be done in order to set the Sisters free. The evil that enslaves them and kills them is throughout the city at every level. It founded the city, and built for its purposes. Such an evil will not be deterred merely by wiping out some of its resources. It has plenty more. Mikoto's current actions would barely even register as a mild inconvenience. To stop it you must either destroy everything it has and everywhere it is, by destroying the whole city; or you must hunt down each and every person that makes up the entirety of that evil, and kill them all.

Neither of these things are desirable for Mikoto or any of our heroines to do. But Mikoto wanted to know how to stop what was happening to the Sisters. These seem to be the most effective ways. The fact that there are numerous obstacles and that doing these things would have incredibly serious psychological effects and other consequences for anyone who did them is a different discussion entirely. She didn't ask "how hard will it be to do it" or "what will happen if I do it" or even "does anyone think it's a good idea if I do it?" Such things are beside the point.

[Kyouka]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I believe you are missing the point. I am not listing what would be, could be, or should be done. Only what must be done in order to set the Sisters free. The evil that enslaves them and kills them is throughout the city at every level. It founded the city, and built for its purposes. Such an evil will not be deterred merely by wiping out some of its resources. It has plenty more. Mikoto's current actions would barely even register as a mild inconvenience. To stop it you must either destroy everything it has and everywhere it is, byt destroying the whole city; or you must hunt down each and every person that makes up the entirety of that evil, and kill them all.

Neither of these things are desirable for Mikoto or any of our heroines to do. But Mikoto wanted to know how to stop what was happening to the Sisters. These seem to be the most effective ways. The fact that there are numerous obstacles and that doing these things would have incredibly serious psychological effects and other consequences for anyone who did them is a different discussion entirely. She didn't ask "how hard will it be to do it" or "what will happen if I do it" or even "does anyone think it's a good idea if I do it?" Such things are beside the point.

or just they could just let accelerator kill them off setting them free from everything

[Traece]

This was a really interesting episode. I like that they finally took the time to show more of Accelerator's character. Up to now he's been portrayed as some sort of bloodthirsty psychopath, but that's not exactly good characterization. I never got the impression that he would end up being a psychopath like they imply. So it was refreshing that they took the time to humanize him, if only slightly.

Looks like next episode things are going to progress quite a bit, so it should be quite interesting to see what happens.

[Tranhieu]

Excellent episode! Misaka's despair was depicted very well, even better than the manga I might say. The episode would have been perfect if they managed to make the transition between each character's view smoother, like there's still a bit of 'discontinuation' when they switch from Misaka's rampage to the experiment ground I think.

Originally Posted by Lulu Vie Britania

Guys what was that? I don't remember this in manga.

I seriously thought that was a piece of her rib! Left me speechless for few seconds there~~

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Tranhieu

Excellent episode! Mikasa's despair was depicted very well, even better than the manga I might say.

Wrong series!
Here is your sub-forum:
http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdis...ysprune=&f=129

[Ihaxlikenoob]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I believe you are missing the point. I am not listing what would be, could be, or should be done. Only what must be done in order to set the Sisters free. The evil that enslaves them and kills them is throughout the city at every level. It founded the city, and built for its purposes. Such an evil will not be deterred merely by wiping out some of its resources. It has plenty more. Mikoto's current actions would barely even register as a mild inconvenience. To stop it you must either destroy everything it has and everywhere it is, by destroying the whole city; or you must hunt down each and every person that makes up the entirety of that evil, and kill them all.

Neither of these things are desirable for Mikoto or any of our heroines to do. But Mikoto wanted to know how to stop what was happening to the Sisters. These seem to be the most effective ways. The fact that there are numerous obstacles and that doing these things would have incredibly serious psychological effects and other consequences for anyone who did them is a different discussion entirely. She didn't ask "how hard will it be to do it" or "what will happen if I do it" or even "does anyone think it's a good idea if I do it?" Such things are beside the point.

Still won't work no matter what she does, reaching Level 6/SYSTEM is one of main reasons for Academy City's establishment, she cannot just remove one of the core goals; doing so would be tantamount to killing every single researcher/scientist in the city. What you see as evil is the scientists just seeing the Sisters as usable materials -- which is basically how every dark-side researcher sees every Esper -- , even some people with a moral compass will probably say "the ends justify the means".

Level Six Shift is the closest to achieving fruition, the parameters of the experiments given by Tree Diagram, the (former) most advanced and powerful super computer in the world, they aren't going to stop for anything.

Destroy the city? Or rather destroy the dark-side? Don't make me laugh ( oh wait, you did ), didn't you hear Mugino during her insane tirade? Misaka lacks the capability in any way, shape or form to do so, both psychologically and physically. Misaka has never killed anyone, not even Frenda when she threatened to so, what makes you think she'll start? She may be close to breaking, but she still has a moral-compass, watching/reading Index will tell you that. It's also pretty obvious why she can't stop the experiment physically: it's an organization/city-state government vs. a single person ( barring some exceptions ), even if said person has superpowers, who do you think will win?

TL;DR:
Stating that she could destroy AC to solve her problems is being both foolish and naive.