2011-07-26, 18:48 | Link #23402 | |||
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His interactions with Shannon provided us examples of how Yasu feels about her body and her fate. Without Kanon, you'd have Shannon running around, screaming she's furniture... really not the same thing, it would have made the Shannon=Beatrice thing even more obvious. Quote:
She tried to become a witch to escape her servant-life, and but it was revealed that she was destined to become a witch all along and her witch persona is simply another dead end. Her female servant persona tried to break from her fate, but it was decided that Battler had to come back the same year George decided to propose. And for the last, her male persona had it even worse since he's the more "crippled" between them. She can't be female, but she can't also be male! (and if Yasu was originally a boy, you can see how Kanon existence becomes even more important) Without Kanon, Beatrice would be just the secret identity of Shannon, with Kanon they become three different people, each other with their desires. With this, "the roulette of fate" definitely makes more sense. Quote:
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2011-07-26, 20:31 | Link #23403 | ||||
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Also there's another character already who is furniture. How much depth did he get? Oh right... none. What was the origin of his complex? Did it parallel Yasu's somehow and rub off on her? Oh right, that never once was explored. Who was he anyway? How did he meet Kinzo? Welp, guess it isn't important. Look, Kanon already exists solely in a capacity meant to reflect and relate upon another character in the narrative. That pretty much says it all. A character like that might as well be furniture. Quote:
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2011-07-26, 20:49 | Link #23404 | |
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Doesn't EP8 give ... something about how he met Kinzo? Until disproven, I'm gonna keep thinking Genji's furniture complex is rooted in deep, unfulfillable homolust for Kinzo - it kinds sorta fits Yasu's "unable to love" schtick. |
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2011-07-26, 21:07 | Link #23405 |
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Since I don't feel like wading into the debate about Kanon, I'll just drop off something else I spotted in EP3. This conversation takes place right after the 2nd twilight is discovered, and the adults are discussing the possibility that the 1st twilight was faked.
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EDIT: Never mind, this appears to be a translation error. I thought I had the most recent version of the translation, but I guess not?
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2011-07-26, 21:33 | Link #23406 |
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Indeed it sort of does and I kind of assumed the same thing but honestly there's very little to establish it. We've got, like, one or two details in ep2 and ep4, some coverage in ep7, and some stuff in ep8. Still some pretty big gaps though.
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2011-07-26, 22:36 | Link #23408 |
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...Oh dear. I've been really, inexcusably thick.
Yasu is the last illusion concealing the true identity of the author of the message bottles. There is no such person as Yasu in Rokkenjima Prime.
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2011-07-27, 00:23 | Link #23412 | |
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You can even think of Yasu and Lion as Jessica's ideas of "what if I were actually a servant" or "what if I had an older sibling who could be the heir instead". Admittedly, figuring out what to do with the story of Natsuhi throwing Yasu off a cliff is a little difficult though.
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2011-07-27, 00:37 | Link #23413 | |
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I mean, if you're going with that. Other things you might mention:
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2011-07-27, 00:59 | Link #23414 |
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(Second time posting this video since seeing EP6 spoiler pictures with Jessica's demon eyes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krhdWBrULA4 )
I've always been a big supporter of Jessica as the author/culprit... I feel before Chiru she worked out much more nicely than Yasu. I also remember people being highly suspicious of her with her blond hair and all, but I guess that was a red herring. Or is it?
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2011-07-27, 01:04 | Link #23416 | |
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Oh, sure. The love duel, for one thing, and probably the EP7 tea party if Shannon or Kanon showed up in front of Eva. Could be enough there to coerce into into a proper forgery though.
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2011-07-28, 20:23 | Link #23420 |
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The entirety of Kanon's part in Claire's story: "Oh yeah well now that 'Beatrice' is the one in love with Battler there will be a new boy servant".
Seriously, Kanon was just passed over completely in EP7; Renall's right; it was basically Ryukishi saying that Kanon is not that important. In terms of the narrative, his primary purpose was simply to be a 3rd personality; in other words, he was only a plot device meant to confuse the reader and allow Beatrice to speak red truth that made no sense. Kanon and Shannon were both very dull characters from beginning to end. Especially Kanon. Even with the whole psycho-multiple-personality thing aside, Jessica and George have awful taste. |
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