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Random32 · 2012-01-21, 00:30

Not that I think that Hollywood has gotten the message that we are going to drag them into the 21st century whether they like it or not, but there are yet more threats to internet freedom in America and the world. Though, SOPA/PIPA have been sufficiently demolished.

PCIP is Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act.
Seems like Lamar and friends have found a new excuse to erect the Great Firewall of America.

Thus, the fight for freedom isn't over.

its a bit old, but theatlantic has something on PCIP
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...r-good/242853/

EDIT: fixed name, sorry.

speedyexpress48 · 2012-01-21, 00:45

It's still total bullshit, but not nearly as bad as SOPA/PIPA on the surface. Still, I hope people can oppose this with the same force that they opposed SOPA/PIPA with.

HasuMasu · 2012-01-21, 00:53

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Originally Posted by speedyexpress48

It's still total bullshit, but not nearly as bad as SOPA/PIPA on the surface. Still, I hope people can oppose this with the same force that they opposed SOPA/PIPA with.

And that's exactly what they want people to think.

Random32 · 2012-01-21, 00:55

Its worse than SOPA/PIPA imho. Its basically SOPA with find/replace pirates to pedophiles, then in addition allows the government to monitor everything we are doing big brother style on a whim.

I hope people can get behind killing it as much as they did SOPA/PIPA. I hope that defending pedophiles instead of pirates won't make a difference.

solomon · 2012-01-21, 01:09

I don't think it will.

Unless you were very young and/or in tune with technology, I am not sure how much traction the SOPA/PIPA fight got with Joe Public, especially older folks.

Now this is easier to sell, the whole "save the children" thing that Vexx always talks about is always a good rallying point, even for potentially flawed legislation.

speedyexpress48 · 2012-01-21, 01:16

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Originally Posted by solomon

I don't think it will.

Unless you were very young and/or in tune with technology, I am not sure how much traction the SOPA/PIPA fight got with Joe Public, especially older folks.

Now this is easier to sell, the whole "save the children" thing that Vexx always talks about is always a good rallying point, even for potentially flawed legislation.

Well, to be honest, most older folks I have seen are strongly against piracy and pirates...but I'm afraid you're right.

Demongod86 · 2012-01-21, 01:29

I suppose a spoonful of sugar makes the poison go down. Well, at least they're being shameless and brazen about it.

This too will burn.

Marcus H. · 2012-01-21, 01:49

"Protect the children, they are our only hope!"

Well, they have a point, unless the issue involves irresponsible parents who carelessly allow their children to venture "forbidden terrain" in the Internet.

Unfortunately, with "children" at stake here, this might have a higher chance of getting passed than SOPA/PIPA (rust in pieces).

Come on, America. You have bigger concerns to deal with rather than putting roadblocks on the Internet (of all places).

Kokukirin · 2012-01-21, 02:11

Oh US of A, why are you so good at making terrible laws (and forcing others to adopt similar versions of them).

Kyuu · 2012-01-21, 04:03

Persistent little buggers, aren't they?

SaintessHeart · 2012-01-21, 06:25

Anonymous loves lolis, right?

Marik · 2012-01-21, 08:00

This planet sucks..... I believe that some people are just waking up with the thought of how to mess up our life more than it is.

Dhomochevsky · 2012-01-21, 08:06

The guys who come up with those names are really creative. But they should think about protecting our children from Aliens too, not just Predators.

Kyuu · 2012-01-21, 08:20

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Originally Posted by Marik

This planet sucks..... I believe that some people are just waking up with the thought of how to mess up our life more than it is.

I do this on a daily basis...

;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;

Of course, better to get angry and fight (in ways non-violent). For a common (and cowardly) person like m'self -- the Internet has been a huge tool for that. Of course, y'don't need me to say that.

Kameruka · 2012-01-21, 08:32

They killed Megaupload, what's next? Fileserve? Rapidshare? Mediafire?

Arturia Polaris · 2012-01-21, 09:30

Wow, are you serious? PROTECTING the CHILDREN will be a big drum in passing this whole legislation which allows the government to store basically everything you ever did on the internet, for 18 months past...

The ramifications involve = Finding political enemies, being able to blackmail people, finding dissidents...

If X googled: "Occupy New York" the poor bum could be immediately blacklisted into a group of people who have PROBABLY gone to the occupy movements.

What is this... I don't even...

HasuMasu · 2012-01-21, 10:23

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Originally Posted by Kameruka

They killed Megaupload, what's next? Fileserve? Rapidshare? Mediafire?

No no no, if they do that I'll have to use torrents...

TigerII · 2012-01-21, 10:43

This WILL pass. Anytime children are involved, it always passes. And yes, the file storing sites are going to disappear one by one, because what they do is already covered in the 1999 Millennium law.

Tong · 2012-01-21, 11:56

Oh man, if this passes every America "Enemy" will so exploit that.

Rising Dragon · 2012-01-21, 13:07

We're going to need to find the contents of the bill and compare it to the old PIPA/SOPA bills. And if they match way too much, we'll just have to make people aware of it.

2012-01-21, 00:30	Link #1
Random32 Also a Lolicon Join Date: Apr 2010	PCIP - SOPA/PIPA All over again Not that I think that Hollywood has gotten the message that we are going to drag them into the 21st century whether they like it or not, but there are yet more threats to internet freedom in America and the world. Though, SOPA/PIPA have been sufficiently demolished. PCIP is Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act. Seems like Lamar and friends have found a new excuse to erect the Great Firewall of America. Thus, the fight for freedom isn't over. its a bit old, but theatlantic has something on PCIP http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...r-good/242853/ EDIT: fixed name, sorry. Last edited by Random32; 2012-01-21 at 18:53.

2012-01-21, 00:45	Link #2
speedyexpress48 Boo, you whore Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Smokin that CO bong	It's still total bullshit, but not nearly as bad as SOPA/PIPA on the surface. Still, I hope people can oppose this with the same force that they opposed SOPA/PIPA with. __________________ Your Friendly Bitcoin Trader\|Go Avs/Broncos

2012-01-21, 01:29	Link #7
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2012-01-21, 01:49	Link #8
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	"Protect the children, they are our only hope!" Well, they have a point, unless the issue involves irresponsible parents who carelessly allow their children to venture "forbidden terrain" in the Internet. Unfortunately, with "children" at stake here, this might have a higher chance of getting passed than SOPA/PIPA (rust in pieces). Come on, America. You have bigger concerns to deal with rather than putting roadblocks on the Internet (of all places). __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2012-01-21, 04:03	Link #10
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2012-01-21, 00:55	Link #4
Random32 Also a Lolicon Join Date: Apr 2010	Its worse than SOPA/PIPA imho. Its basically SOPA with find/replace pirates to pedophiles, then in addition allows the government to monitor everything we are doing big brother style on a whim. I hope people can get behind killing it as much as they did SOPA/PIPA. I hope that defending pedophiles instead of pirates won't make a difference.

2012-01-21, 01:09	Link #5
solomon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suburban DC	I don't think it will. Unless you were very young and/or in tune with technology, I am not sure how much traction the SOPA/PIPA fight got with Joe Public, especially older folks. Now this is easier to sell, the whole "save the children" thing that Vexx always talks about is always a good rallying point, even for potentially flawed legislation.

2012-01-21, 02:11	Link #9
Kokukirin Shadow of Effilisi Join Date: Oct 2011	Oh US of A, why are you so good at making terrible laws (and forcing others to adopt similar versions of them).

2012-01-21, 06:25	Link #11
SaintessHeart NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~ Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 35	Anonymous loves lolis, right? __________________ When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus. Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

2012-01-21, 08:00	Link #12
Marik Member Join Date: Dec 2009	This planet sucks..... I believe that some people are just waking up with the thought of how to mess up our life more than it is.

2012-01-21, 08:06	Link #13
Dhomochevsky temporary safeguard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Germany	The guys who come up with those names are really creative. But they should think about protecting our children from Aliens too, not just Predators.

2012-01-21, 08:32	Link #15
Kameruka Hen-Tie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hen-Tie pen	They killed Megaupload, what's next? Fileserve? Rapidshare? Mediafire?

2012-01-21, 09:30	Link #16
Arturia Polaris Good OP Hunter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Argentina	Wow, are you serious? PROTECTING the CHILDREN will be a big drum in passing this whole legislation which allows the government to store basically everything you ever did on the internet, for 18 months past... The ramifications involve = Finding political enemies, being able to blackmail people, finding dissidents... If X googled: "Occupy New York" the poor bum could be immediately blacklisted into a group of people who have PROBABLY gone to the occupy movements. What is this... I don't even...

2012-01-21, 10:43	Link #18
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	This WILL pass. Anytime children are involved, it always passes. And yes, the file storing sites are going to disappear one by one, because what they do is already covered in the 1999 Millennium law.

2012-01-21, 11:56	Link #19
Tong Many RPGs, Little Time Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BR Age: 32	Oh man, if this passes every America "Enemy" will so exploit that. __________________

2012-01-21, 13:07	Link #20
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	We're going to need to find the contents of the bill and compare it to the old PIPA/SOPA bills. And if they match way too much, we'll just have to make people aware of it. __________________