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Perfect 10 | 57 | 53.27% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 36 | 33.64% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 7.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 4.67% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.93% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-02-09, 07:44 | Link #142 | |
Sensei, aishite imasu
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2013-02-09, 08:09 | Link #143 | ||
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They live in a world where almost no one has to even think about defending themselves, which leads you to think that most people wouldn't even care about learning self defence techniques. For someone like Makishima who rejects Sibyl, having actual impressive combat skills is in itself pretty legit, as he understands more than anyone else that other people (whoever they are) are potential danger. That of course isn't limited to the actual need for combat skills but the mentality of that society in about everything violence and crime related. Which also explain why so far he's been more or less disinterested in everyone that met him : they are just some random people who can't even understand his reasoning, some random thugs who barely know how to swing a bat and believe they can smash anyone, all those people bound to sibyl's saint words ... they're nowhere near to meet his expectations (less beat or outwit him) so why would he even care about winning over them? Slaying an ant and a ferocious bear are feats of different value. However Kogami is different, he represents anything that Makishima can hardly find anywhere else in this world : a subtle mind that understands the beast inside everyone of us, who doesn't give a damn about what Sibyl has to say about him, who finds value in strengthening his body and crafting his fighting skill, who can understand Makishima himself. Yes, just the thought of someone like Ko draws a huge smile on his face ... so what would happen when, in what looks like a once in a lifetime event, he meets that person face to face? has a discussion with him in which he got quoted back in the way he'd like the best to be! fights him and is finding himself slightly pushed back and even got his breath cut (which is impressive considering how wounded his opponent is)! would he stay as stoic as usual? Obviously not, he'd rejoice and appreciate the thing to its fullest and show how entertained he is like never before. So yeah, it's legit to me. My CC spiked when I wrote this. Quote:
Strangely enough it looked like it was destroy decomposer mode and not eliminator ... but I might be wrong. Anyway that doesn't make Kagari less dead ;_;
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2013-02-09, 08:28 | Link #144 | |
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2013-02-09, 09:05 | Link #145 | |
Sensei, aishite imasu
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I mean really. Hasn't it been obvious that Makishima has been fascinated by violence from very early on in this show? While he enjoys interpreting his interest through philosophy and intellectual discourse, the core of what he enjoys is visceral and predatory. Frankly it's goofy to be surprised that a guy like this wouldn't enjoy himself if in taking down someone as dangerous as Kougami. Really. Murder is too energy intensive to be taken up as a hobby by someone who completely aloof and intellectual.
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2013-02-09, 10:14 | Link #146 | |
Waiting for more taiyuki!
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Maybe she missed. She was also shot.
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2013-02-09, 11:00 | Link #148 | |
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And I totally agree about Makishima. His behavior was in no way inconsistent with what we had already seen of him and it added another layer of complexity to his personality. He actually strikes me as more human after this episode. A pretentious and morally twisted human, but a human nevertheless.
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2013-02-09, 11:48 | Link #149 | |
Sensei, aishite imasu
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For a guy whose philosophy is so grounded around self actualization of visceral desire, the interpretation that some people have had of him is awfully robotic. Like he was some kind of machine that only carried out his actions because it was some kind of innate mechanical function. That'd be impossible for a guy so fascinated by people letting something inside them loose and reveling in it, wouldn't ever be willing to do the same thing.
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2013-02-09, 13:14 | Link #150 | |
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Well, one man's character regression is another's character development, I suppose. I for one was delighted to see him so, well, delighted. If anything, I think it added to his character- maybe not in the way some people wanted, but I'm satisfied with it, and I know I'm not alone in that.
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2013-02-09, 13:38 | Link #151 |
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Personally I like Makishima more after this episode too. I mean I loved him as the charming "philosopher" villain but I almost felt he came off too perfect & I was starting to get bored of him always being two steps ahead of everyone, except Kou.
The fact that he could let his guard down and forget about Akane (or not even think her as important) because he was so focused on the thrill of facing Kougami made him a more realistic villain for me. The fact that he got bopped on the head doesn't take away anything from Makishima's charm & intelligence for me. It just makes Akane all the more cooler that she was able to take him down. Sure it was simple, maybe it didn't seem worthy enough for some people. But sometimes simple is the best way to get the job done. Anyways Makishima's character was not assassinated at all for me, even though Akane & Kagari were certainly the stars of this episode.
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2013-02-09, 15:08 | Link #152 |
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Well... to all Urobutcher fans, I think this episode was his typical "kickoff". This time he spent 1.3 instead of 0.3 seasons to explain the background and build up the characters, and now he's going to let the hell break loose. The fact that we finally "caught up" to episode 1 should be hint enough that the end run starts NOW.
A couple of observations/predictions based on my Urobutcher fanboy antenna: 1) Fairly obvious for 0 points: The "end boss" will become the Sybil system. Maybe Kagari's death will already be sufficient to cause Akane and folks to look into things, but it's evident that the system defends its secrets with lethal force. 2) Rein in your Makishima hate. I'm convinced that this guy will play a pivotal role in the resolution on the side of Akane. Why? Because of the effort the Urobutcher took in playing up the "kill him" decision underlining how hard it was for her to control her hate and to show mercy. Urobuchi Gen likes to construct his stories with stringent logic, and Akane's restraint will prove to be critical in "winning". Makishima is an anomaly that Sibyl can't gauge, and I wouldn't be surprised if in the end, Akane will need him to defeat Sibyl. 3) Gino is living on borrowed time and primed for heartbreak, betrayal and death. It will be his blind, fanatic loyalty to Sibyl that will prove to be his doom - but first, he'll be in a world of hurt. I bet that if we look it up, his middle name is "Sayaka". Unfortunately, I suspect that his father will be going first. The Urobutcher likes to kill his flies _after_ tearing out the wings. Looking forward to how things develop from here ... nobody writes "everything is going to hell" sequences better than HIM. |
2013-02-09, 15:51 | Link #153 |
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I'm inclined to think Mentar is right.
Gen likes to reward protagonists who learn to conquer their own inner flaws or weaknesses and/or don't give in to dark temptations in the first place. On the flip side, he punishes protagonists that can't or won't make these necessary self-corrections. Akane's choice to let Makishima live strikes me as a pivotal moment for her character, and the narrative as a whole. Her making that choice, and showing that restraint, will likely pave the way to this anime resolving with Akane's success.
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2013-02-09, 16:43 | Link #154 | |
Sensei, aishite imasu
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And frankly, at this point it's looking like there's more potential for intriguing interaction between Akane and Makishima than there is for Kougami and Makishima. Lets face it. Kougami isn't interested in anything other than killing Makishima no matter what. Makishima if nothing else is somewhat reflective. I wanna see what he thinks of Akane now. cause frankly, I don't think Makishima has ever met somebody who had the self control to not kill when they wanted to out of an internal sense of morality.
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2013-02-09, 20:56 | Link #158 | |
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2013-02-09, 21:33 | Link #159 |
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Hm. I don't think we got that much new stuff to chew on aside from that little plot twist at the end. Well, it ended up being a predictable plot twist. The moment their team split up, it was pretty clear that Kagari's head was already set on the chopping block. It's a shame though. He was a pretty cool character.
As for that confrontation between Makishima and Kogami, I found it brutal but satisfying. For a character like Makishima to derive enjoyment from such a practice is just fitting, now that I think of it. To give it your all while putting your life on the line, to live on the thrill that can only be supplied by unfettered raw emotion, is exactly what is lacking in the society they live in. It lacks that sense of urgency that forces humans to live their lives to the fullest. That scuffle was pretty much a quick gratification of everything that Makishima sought for. In the end though, it looks like the system found a way to suppress the threat. I'd hazard a guess that the system might not have been in that much trouble in the first place, seeing as it seems that the Director was just expecting them to show up. Still, it seems that things are far from over at this point. From this point, I'm looking to Akane to cause some waves here. She showed remarkable self-control in sparing Makishima's life here. Before, even amidst the influence of characters like Kogami, Makishima, and Ginoza, she seems to have a solid grip on her emotions. In a sense, she's the strongest character in the series. As such, if anyone is going to take the initiative of doing whatever needs to be done, it would be her.
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2013-02-09, 21:50 | Link #160 |
今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている
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That's actually much better than Sybil being a rogue AI.....I really hope it doesn't go that way. It's so much better if humans were actively involved and complicit in making their society that way rather than the work of some wetware...
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