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Early ICBMs only used simply inertial navigation, via dead reckoning, to hit their targets. This would be easy to incorporate into a rocket design (in fact, current Japanese rockets already have such a system). The bigger issue is actually how fast they could launch the vehicle. No adapted space craft could be launched in the minutes long window that is currently required of an ICBM. Still, you could do a lot worse. Quote:
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Japan has highly advanced multi stage rockets that can carry large payloads. The main time hurdle for Japan developing a nuclear launch system would be gaining the enriched Uranium for the warhead. All the other ingredients are already in place. Indeed... |
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2012-09-25, 18:19 | Link #23923 |
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Remember, too, that the early stages of the US satellite program tried to develop a rocket, the Vanguard, specifically for that purpose. It routinely blew up on the launch pad or otherwise malfunctioned. Then NASA decided to use the Redstone "Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile" to launch a satellite, and it was much more successful. This was back in the late 1950's. Inter-service rivalries played a big role here as well. The Redstone was an Army project, while the Navy backed their Vanguard. The Air Force had the Atlas on the drawing boards, but NASA needed something right now to show the US could keep pace with the Soviets after the Sputnik launch. The Redstones successors, the Jupiter missiles, were deployed in Europe where they could hit Russian targets until the ICBMs were developed. Most analysts of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis argue that Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev's primary goal in sending missiles to Cuba was to have the Jupiters removed from their European bases. Kennedy agreed to dismantle the European IRBMs in return for the removal of the Cuban missiles.
The Atlas played a role in later space launches and was the backbone of the US nuclear deterrent until the development of the Titan and MIRV systems. The Mercury and Gemini programs used the Atlas and Titan ICBMs as their launch vehicles until the development of the Saturn which powered the Apollo moon landings. So, based at least on the early years of the US space program, there was an intimate relationship between offensive missile weapons and manned space flight.
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2012-09-25, 20:26 | Link #23927 |
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^ Hm.. what is he saying that is so surprising to anyone? He's actually being much more candid than you usually hear, but he's not making this stuff up. He's being perfectly realistic in the historical contexts.. I mean, war doesn't happen in a vacuum, it's usually induced due to policy measures, economic sanctions and other means.. Japan didn't decide to add the U.S. to WW2 willy-nilly when it attacked Pearl Harbour..
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2012-09-26, 07:15 | Link #23929 | |
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Second , if he really want the US to ''create'' a incident to give a reason to go to war, could we strap him in a U2/TR1 and send him over Iran ?
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2012-09-26, 10:16 | Link #23933 | |
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Cruise missiles are cheaper and much harder to detect...just fly nap of earth all the way to Zhongnanhai. As for blast yield issues....TOT cruise missile retaliation spread out over the target is more destructive than a single warhead missile. Hit by dead reckoning vs GPS guidance for cruise missile strike, the latter is far more preferable any day. vs an option of single dumb rocket with just a warhead re-configured for ballistic strike launched from.....where? Another question to ponder, in event of chinese first strike, Japan's launch pads are likely going to be taken out as a precaution. To launch from subs is already as good as building a whole new class of missile Clearly cruise missiles are a far better option Also, the main advantage of rockets is range and throw weight. In Japan's case, the main use would most likely to act as a first-strike weapon to try and take out as many chinese silos and launchers as possible. Because China's economically crucial cities are all mainly concentrated near the coast and thus vulnerable to cruise missile attack, it would be wasteful to use ballistic missiles on these. To destroy nuclear launch sites effectively, you need MIRVs to target the individual silos. You need something hardened to get past defences and something fast enough that can hit with as minimal warning as possible, among a host of other considerations
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2012-09-26, 10:31 | Link #23934 |
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2012-09-26, 11:04 | Link #23935 | |
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From Iran (via the UN):
Ahmadinejad: In 'New Order,' We'll All Be Equal And that whole nuclear program thing is a non-issue http://www.newser.com/story/154736/a..._medium=united Quote:
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2012-09-26, 11:30 | Link #23936 | ||
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Stories like this make me rage.
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Endless "Rage mode" Soul
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2012-09-26, 11:48 | Link #23937 | |
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2012-09-26, 12:07 | Link #23938 | |
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