Hyouka - General Discussion

[tsunade666]

heh Good for Hyouka to have a sub forum. well among all the others this season. This is the only one with good mystery and decent story even though the others are also good but pretty straight.

[DarkWish]

It finally happen'd , this anime's own section.

Let there be light!

[Arabesque]

Oh, well I guess that I should save my impressions on episode 4 for the proper thread.

Not really all that surprised about the show getting a sub forum, just at how fast it was. Figured we wouldn't get one well into the 9th~11th week, but it's great that we got one

[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by teja208

He's most likely oblivious to love, it's a common thing with most male in anime. Either that or he actually swings the other way if you know what I mean.



Glad to hear that Kyoani add their own touch into the series as well.



I think it's partly due to Hyouka being a 2-cour series.

There's another reason though... but I shouldn't talk about it... for some damn reason...

Originally Posted by Hyper

I certainly know what you mean

Well, that aside, I think his case is different though. He is clearly aware of her feeling (maybe even be told out right before) so it's not the usual dense male. And they're not that awkward around each other either. Now I really want to know how the situation become like this.

Oreki isn't the guy to be needlessly becoming awkward to someone. I suspect that to change over time though.

Still, Oreki's no dense male. In fact, I don't think she he wants to deny those feelings. Even he said at Ep 1 that he didn't want to deny her... although, he switches quite well from detective/smart mode to lazy mode and vice versa.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by winhlp32

I'd say they do. Kyoani has released back in April a promo image featuring the key players from the second volume of the Kotenbu novel series, The Credit Roll of the Fool:

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The Credit Roll of the Fool

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That image is indeed very encouraging, so thanks a lot for sharing it.

I like the look of the girl that's displayed prominently in the bottom left-hand corner of that pic. If her expression in that pic is any indication, she has a very different personality from Eru and Mayaka, so that could add some greater diversity to the cast.

Originally Posted by hyl

It's interesting that this is the only anime from this seson to have it's own sub forum at this moment.

Well, Hyou-Ka is generating a lot of discussion, and most of it "serious" (in the sense of people tackling actual narrative content, and delving into mysteries and series speculation; not just loads of one-liner posts or image dumps).

So I think it was a good Mod decision to give Hyou-Ka a subforum.

[SRanger]

Originally Posted by Eater of All

Thanks, now I'm imagining Oreki accidentally stumbling into a sealed, odorous room and finding something he shouldn't have found, in the same way the protagonist of a certain other anime did.

"Houtarou...I love you" *Chitanda swings her axe

[Cipher]

Main character is probably the only reason why I'm watching this. I can relate to his philosophy and the fact that it's not mudded by the unnecessary value-baggage reeking in the term "lazy."

Originally Posted by Yui Is My Wife

Everything about this show is perfect minus the unbearable apathy and sarcasm of the sociopathic and emotionless male lead, who frankly is as much fun to watch as listening to glass being ground to powder and having said powder shoved under your eyelids.

I can understand emotionless, but how is he apathetic, sarcastic and sociopathic?

[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by Cipher

I can understand emotionless, but how is he apathetic, sarcastic and sociopathic?

Seconded.

I've never seen Houtarou being actually sociopathic. For all I know he seems to get along with the class quite well compared to more model examples. He merely avoids unneeded work, something I myself do often times. It does not make me a sociopath because I avoid it right?

He isn't sarcastic either because he is very straightforward unlike the other 3. When he explained the basic points of the theory of Chitanda's uncle, it was very very concise. The only times I heard him saying indirectly sarcastic things are with Satoshi. But that's a Clannad duo so it shall pass.

[OceanBlue]

Congratulations on the subforum, Hyouka.

[Yui Is My Wife]

Sociopathy is not necessarily criminal in nature.

By its most basic definition, a sociopath is a person born without the ability to either feel unselfish emotions or the ability/desire to emotionally connect to and empathize with other human beings.

And most frightening of all, a sociopath doesn't feel that there's anything wrong with that at all. Hence even though not criminals, the most successful bosses of companies, doctors and killers are sociopaths, as they literally do NOT feel a SINGLE thing while hurting/cutting/killing people or destroying their hopes and dreams. The closest thing to an "emotion" felt by a sociopath is the apathetic annoyance felt when called on to take responsibility for their actions.

Note in Episode 2 how Houreki coldly and matter of factedly observed from a distance the shared joy of his 3 acquaintances (you are only a "friend" if you love or at the very least CARE for someone), and frankly admits to himself in his inner monologue "I just can't be like that. I wonder why."

And notice the violently explosive outrage of "NOT INTERESTED!! OKAY?" when pleaded to care for Eru-chan's plight. That would require the ability to (A) relate to another human being (B) care. 2 things that he candidly admits that he never wants to do unless FORCED to do so. And his flat "I'll help be but I WONT make any promises" is a textbook example of a sociopath's attempt to placate someone to leave him alone with a lazily given but rarely fulfilled half-promise.

Yes, Houreki may not be a thrill seeking axe-murderer, but he is just as dead-inside as Doctor House, the entire cast of Game of Thrones and any other sociopath who is unable and unwilling to feel and connect to humanity.

[SRanger]

Sometimes I find it hard to keep up with what's exactly going on with the plot - I might actually rewatch episode 4 and the end parts of episode 3, but episode 4 was mainly good because of Chitanda ponytail + Chitanda's cooking.

[Hyper]

Originally Posted by ronelm2000

Oreki isn't the guy to be needlessly becoming awkward to someone. I suspect that to change over time though.

Still, Oreki's no dense male. In fact, I don't think she he wants to deny those feelings. Even he said at Ep 1 that he didn't want to deny her... although, he switches quite well from detective/smart mode to lazy mode and vice versa.

Just making sure we're on the same page, I was referring to Satoshi and Mayaka's relationship. Do you happen to think I was referring to Houtarou?

[ronelm2000]

Originally Posted by Hyper

Just making sure we're on the same page, I was referring to Satoshi and Mayaka's relationship. Do you happen to think I was referring to Houtarou?

How... did I come to that conclusion?

[BrightSide]

Hi everyone. I have a question. I was recently told that:

Spoiler:

What Chitanda's uncle told Chitanda was to "Be strong".

How much of a spoiler was that? Thank you for letting me know.

[ronelm2000]

I don't know.... would YOU cry for that reason?

I know I wouldn't.... :/ But, hey, if it turns out to be true, then .... damn.
I'm for the rep-ruined-by-history theory, btw.

[kimpleng]

Reference to Chitanda's house.
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-9565.html

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[Hyper]

Originally Posted by kimpleng

Reference to Chitanda's house.
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-9565.html

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Is that actually a private property?

[ronelm2000]

Who owns that lot? I need to know....... XD

[blewin]

just started watching and I must say I really like it! all those different ways of animating the mood of the anime, especially with how the producer manages to make the main male lead less boring than his character portrays him to be. And I like how it's not just about mysteries but character growth too. Hopefully we'll see some character growth of other characters too.

[CrowKenobi]

Originally Posted by ronelm2000

Who owns that lot? I need to know....... XD

From the episode 4 thread:

Originally Posted by ultimatemegax

The model site for Eru's home, Kamo Garden, posted a nice statement on their Facebook wall yesterday.

They link to a summary of the episode and the official site. In the comments, they are the third one to comment on it.

The two names mentioned in the comments were Japanese movies. I presume that both were shot in the Gardens.

Edit: Here is a page set up to show off the manor.