Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 26 Discussion / Poll [END]

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

I guess Vice just looks cool in that scene and that he beat out both Zafira and Chrono in having some relevance to the final fight...and making a path in the Cradle for Subaru and Teana to travel towards to instead of Chrono and his fleet taking their time to get to the location.

[S_K]

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

I guess Vice just looks cool in that scene and that he beat out both Zafira and Chrono in having some relevance to the final fight...and making a path in the Cradle for Subaru and Teana to travel towards to instead of Chrono and his fleet taking their time to get to the location.

I really wanted to see chrono in action

[FlareKnight]

I wanted to see Chrono do more than drink tea and sit in the captain's chair. But I guess his fate was to be in the series but play barely any role in things. Just another victim in the shafting of characters I guess.

At least Vice got a chance to redeem himself by pulling some nice moves before the end.

[Cyz]

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It's funny that Scagllieti (sp?), Quattro, and Uno are in a confinement and the others are not. I guess those 3 are really bad that it will probably take them some time to be let free like the others.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Cyz

Spoiler:

I guess nobody died hm? It's funny that Scagllieti (sp?), Quattro, and Uno are in a confinement and the others are not. I guess those 3 are really bad that it will probably take them some time to be let free like the others.

No, they're UNWILLING to cooperate, and that's why they're stuck in float prison, chained with single cells.

The rest are off in green prison because they've admitted their crimes and are willing to cooperate.

Though I doubt Jail will get that treatment even if he cooperated... maybe better treatment, but rehab green-house. But the rest? They can chalk it up to the Fate-argument really. Especially for them who are pretty much uneducated on human society.

[Cyz]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

But the rest? They can chalk it up to the Fate-argument really. Especially for them who are pretty much uneducated on human society.

Oh yeah that was amusing to look at. I guess they were like "little kids" from the inside

[Serenity85]

The only part that didn't make sense with the ending is LuLu's Mom.

Yes it's nice to see alive again (LuLu, despite her lack of development and slow decline from cool/badass get the job done without meaningless fights (which and I know why it was done (getting Lutecia's cooperation, being nice ppl^^) but my beef is with how it was done. Seriously up to this point its been about LuLu finding relic 11 (did she even find it anyway? I don't recall Jail saying he had it or TSAB for that matter) as it was key in reviving her mother yet it would seem TSAB can do the exact same thing without the need of the relic but only for her ... why not Zest or Regius? Seriouslly wth? Unless LuLu's Mom was not completely dead when Jail stuffed her in the tube she should have been in similar state of floating death that Alisa was in thus only Jail could bring her back but nowhere did it show him doing so. And what about the rest of the test tube girls, are they just chop meat now?

It was still an overall good end even if what was seen didn't make sense^^

[Deathkillz]

Im betting that jail has been lying to lulu all along about the whole "find relic 11 and your mother shall be revived" just to get the cooperation he needed.

[Serenity85]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

Im betting that jail has been lying to lulu all along about the whole "find relic 11 and your mother shall be revived" just to get the cooperation he needed.

That still doesn't solve the issue of how she was able to be brought back to life. I find it hard to believe she was merly just sleeping in that tube when it would seem she should be dead.

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Serenity85

That still doesn't solve the issue of how she was able to be brought back to life. I find it hard to believe she was merly just sleeping in that tube when it would seem she should be dead.

Then deny it. Curse those stupid writers that made this show like this.

Heck, the characters with names death count in a school life romance is higher than this show that has a plot involving destroying government buildings and giga warships.

[aldw]

Gin was floating in a tube before she was reprogrammed by Scaglietti, didn't mean she was dead though...

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by aldw

Gin was floating in a tube before she was reprogrammed by Scaglietti, didn't mean she was dead though...

The time amount spent in it is far too different. Ginga was in for an episode or two, Lutecia's mom was in it for ? years. Plus, Ginga wasn't killed by Cinque-tachi, but it is unknown for Lutecia's mom who faced those spider drones.

[Serenity85]

Well I don't curse the writers completely for StrickerS as I did enjoy the show overall (about a 7/10 for me) but I can't deny the fact 7arcs shafted over so many potentially great characters (Lutecia & crew were so good at the start but they went the way of the dinosauars and disappeared only to be brought out at the end to have their stories rushed with so many gaps and holes it seemed way out of place, like Lutecia's Mom's merical revival (why she's in a wheel chair is another lose end that I can only theorize is that she's still to weak to walk...))

There were others that felt the shaft syndrome that I can't forgive 7arcs for: Hayate & Crono. They built up Hayates uber character in A's only to rarely use her is SS. And poor Crono, sadly he should have just stayed with Carim drinking tea. Seriously he had no major role that couldn't be filled with someone else and what about he apparent family? What happened to them hmmm. Erio & Caro are another example but I'll let this pass as I didn't really care for their characters to much and I only really remember them because they appeared along side Lutecia and Erio happenes to mimic another character (female) from a game I'm playing who IS useful and cool. What happened to their tag team skills like the giant blade slash? Another victam of shaft syndrome and poor development. There were 2 others a dog and a ferret but I can't seem to remember them ^_-

Now the dreaded event I've been holding off ... till now, Vivio. Personally I didn't mind her character and her personality was well suited for her age... She filled the role of getting close to Nanoha so that her eventual capture would tug at Nanoha's heart strings which she did successfully... The problem we had with her was her use of NxF fanservice and she failed as a formidable foe. Ppl have to admit had she not provoked NxF moments and just did what she was meant to do I feel we wouldn't have hated her as much as we did. The other issue is she was no real final boss. The fight just wasn't epic like past seasons but it did provide a nice tender moment afterwards.

... phew thats a lot of typing ... and I still have a theory revolving around 7arcs trying to re-invent the wheel ie. a mash of S1 & S2 and failing thus giving birth to StrickerS ... but I really really don't feel like typing anymore right now. Maybe later if ppl really really wanna hear it^^

I still give it a 7/10 as I'm a big Fan of Nanoha but I won't deny the fact I'm disappointed.

[asaqe]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

The time amount spent in it is far too different. Ginga was in for an episode or two, Lutecia's mom was in it for ? years. Plus, Ginga wasn't killed by Cinque-tachi, but it is unknown for Lutecia's mom who faced those spider drones.

She was perhaps critcally wounded in action and Cinque brought her to the doctor for safekeeping.

[Serenity85]

Originally Posted by asaqe

She was perhaps critcally wounded in action and Cinque brought her to the doctor for safekeeping.

Perhaps, but we have no proof of this, no hints .... nothing. Its left to are imaginations as to her fate. And for that matter what did jail intend to do with her for that matter, at least 4 yrs have past and yet she remained untouched just floating in that tube.

Blame it on poor writing ...... sigh

[asaqe]

That was probably the plan...although we dont know if Lutecia was a biological copy of Lutecia's mom or an direct offspring, if she was direct offspring. Then she was probably raised by relicfied Zest and then she was brought to Jail's lab. Of course, Jail had plenty of time to plant one of his seeds into Lutecia's mom womb and perform random experiments...but thought keeping her in the jar would be the better recourse in case he loses not one but 3 arms...

[Nightengale]

Lutecia IS Megane's daughter, flesh and blood, direct and simple before any of the Jail fiasco ever happened. Uno herself said so, so there IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

As for Megane waking up without Relic #11, Lutecia did say that undergoing treatment, even without Relic #11, she could wake up in time. From the way it's said, it does seem that Relic #11 CAN wake Megane up. But it was not the only way.

Jail simply didn't tell Lutecia the easier, more conventional, but less weapon-in-mind method since even after waking up, she does need wheelchairs and I doubt Jail wants an artificial mage with a weak body from 8 years of sleep. So, it's not like he lied, I think. Just that he didn't tell her the entire truth and simply told the one which gave him the most benefits.

[asaqe]

I see...and I can see why he need #11, mainly because he wants something that could amplify Megane's Belkan summoning to a point where it will pale in whatever Caro had in her arsenal. Such a shame he had to go the Cradle route...

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Just that he didn't tell her the entire truth and simply told the one which gave him the most benefits.

Smart choice. He does see everything as tools... probably.

Originally Posted by asaqe

Such a shame he had to go the Cradle route...

It would have been a BORING season without him. Think 26 episodes of training and random fanservice talking...

*shivers*

Scary!

[Nvis]

Wasn't her name Alphino or something?