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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 - Episode 20 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 75 | 43.86% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 49 | 28.65% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 30 | 17.54% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 12 | 7.02% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 0.58% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.58% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.58% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.58% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.58% | |
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2008-02-28, 05:59 | Link #421 |
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I guess you are "Gundam" with your know-it-all attitude eh?
I submit to you logic and common sense dictates that it does: Graham is coughing up blood after only a few high-G manuevers similar to what the Gundams do, yet we've never seen the Gundam pilots so much as strain in anything they've done. Not to mention Graham is undoubtedly better trained than any of the Gundam pilots. Even the "grunts" the pilots make when attacked are mostly fake. Allelujah likes to make pained cries when being hit like it "hurts", but when Hallelujah takes over there's absolutely no hint at that being the case at all. And in the huge 15hr battle if they were really feeling it that much, they would have rattled the suit or their body apart long before then. Not to mention GN drive/GN particle is Gravity Nullification... |
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The only time Graham has ever coughed up blood was in 18 against the Throne Eins. And that was because he performed maneuvers that would push him through high G forces due to sudden changes in acceleration and direction: 1. He flies in full throttle showering the Eins in a hail of gunfire. 2. Then he transforms in mid air, and suddenly stops and abruptly climbs at full throttle before trading sabers with Eins. 3. He then overpowers the Eins with sheer thruster power, trades blows again, kicks the beam saber out of Ein's hand, then flies up to retrieve it. 4. He then proceeds to close the distance between him and Eins at ridiculous speed from a standstill, chopping off the Ein's arm in the process. These were sudden velocity changes at very high speed that really will expose Graham to high G forces even in short bursts, and Graham was dynamic through the duration of the battle. Basically he didn't give himself time to recover from the G's, and instead subjected himself to continuous stress culminating in his high-speed slash. And I have yet to see any Gundam pilot perform similar maneuvers in combat. Setsuna's greatest feat: the fastest I've seen him pull were in episode 8 with the Exia take-off. Probably also experienced high-G's during Ali's tackle in 12, but shock absorption should take care of that impact. Also, those backflips, twirls and somersaults were performed at slow speed. Lockon's: Haro's flip-flop evasions in episode 2. Even then they weren't that fast, and it was brief. Allelujah: The high speed transformations could probably count as such, then again the Kyrios was designed to transform and with a shifting seat (or else Allelujah's view would be quite different in whenever he flies in flight form). Also Allelujah's a supersoldier. Tieria: Probably that dash with his beam saber to prevent Eins and Drei from docking, though that was a one-shot deal. As far as I can tell, none of the Gundam pilots have ever pulled the same high-speed dynamic maneuvers that Graham has in combat, especially with his awesome stint in 18. Quote:
Also, Allelujah's pained cries weren't fake. Remember that of all the people he could be pitted against, he faced off against SOMA PERIES, who at the mere proximity of her is able to induce migraines that can drive Allelujah to unconsciuosness, like what happened in episode 10. He was feeling the pain, but not from the rounds but from Soma's presence. Quote:
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2008-02-28, 09:47 | Link #423 |
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Finally got to see this episode
Man i love those new suits especially how soma pulled kira moves in a much convinving manner (more spectacular manner may i include) against target that can fight back and the way she owns fangs (Totally uber and doesnt have to beam spam like some beam spammer i know).. Talk about grunt ownage in ths episode Cant wait for Graham to kick some more gundam @$$e$ in his non GN issue Flag \0/ Hmm kinue.. hope she hasnt died... well not yet anyways.. and Ali is one sick little puppy. Well Setsuna should fix him up soon Well i would type more but after reading like over 100 posts there isnt much room to include... |
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2008-02-28, 10:08 | Link #425 | |
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2008-02-28, 11:07 | Link #426 | |
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2008-02-28, 11:15 | Link #427 | |
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2008-02-28, 11:32 | Link #428 | |
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Foolhardy, probably. But who knows what the Wild Bear of the HRL is thinking; he may have some wisdom hidden behind his apparent folly in this case. It would also explain why he didn't pursue the Thrones. As in, test over, RTB for gas. |
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2008-02-28, 11:45 | Link #429 | |
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2008-02-28, 11:49 | Link #430 | |
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2008-02-28, 13:49 | Link #431 | |
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2008-02-28, 17:39 | Link #432 | |
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Wiping out the thrones at the cost of loosing two or three or given Sergei's past record eight of the GN-X's puts the HRL at a disadvantage compared with the AEU and Union both of who will have ten GN-X's left. Driving the Thrones off proves the utility of the GN-X and gives the HRL a victory without risking the hardware the HRL will need in the future. I'm still surprised they deployed all ten. I'd have thought keeping a couple back to reverse engineer would be sensible. But Laguna may have provided complete plans. |
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2008-02-28, 21:46 | Link #434 | |
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As for the Sergei debate on why he stopped fighting, last time Sergei tried to pull an unknown he lost $hitloads of resources, men, and operation money...I think he was partially playing it safe, but I also believe he wanted his men to FINALLY bask in the feeling of victory as a morale booster...To go off and have maybe another team of unpredicted Gundams kill the momentum they just achieved perhaps was a factor...With the confidence of his own skills in these awesome new suits, and being privy to the next level of attacks on the Gundams, makes this decision much easier IMO...
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2008-02-29, 04:53 | Link #436 |
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I finally got my Gundam 00 Episode 20 blog article up if people still care.
And I hope they do as it took me an exceptionally long time to get done. You know, this episode had such excellent character subplots going on that I kind of wish the battle at the end of the episode could have been postponed to give one or two of them some extra time. Still a stellar addition to this increasingly discussable and debatable series though. |
2008-02-29, 06:04 | Link #437 | |
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Before Eiffman died, he clearly mentioned that CB's goal is definitely not erradication of wars and the faction which is the closest to the CB (Aeolia) ideal's is the Trinitys +Liu Mei + Lagna. They will treat civilian's casualty as NOTHING as long as they reach their(Aeolia's) goal which is once again, not erradication of war ; completely different with the Meisters. |
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2008-02-29, 08:46 | Link #439 | |
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The only thing the thrones did was speed up the process. Another difference here? Thrones live in space, so they know nothing about human contact, they close themselves from the outside world, they could care less who they kill, thats why they are successful at completing there goals, as compared to meisters, who still have conflict of interest and past agendas that isnt resolved.
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In any case, if the overriding goal were to preserve the GN-Xs, then it was a bad idea to sortie at all. Such action is certain to risk losing a couple of machine with nothing to gain for it if they weren't going to try to destroy any of the enemy Gundams. Quote:
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