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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 19 | |||
10 out of 10 : Nearly Perfect... | 30 | 28.30% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 37 | 34.91% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 21 | 19.81% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 8 | 7.55% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 6 | 5.66% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.94% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.94% | |
1 out of 10 : Torturous... | 2 | 1.89% | |
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2012-11-14, 17:19 | Link #281 |
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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I don't understand why it's either or? Isn't he helping Leefa out AND saving Asuna. It's just a little detour that might even help him along. Going it alone is really a bad idea anyway. There's also the fact that this is a thing that's happening right now, in front of him. He's not the type of guy who doesn't help out people who are in a jam.
And uhm, forgive me for saying this cliche, but there have to be at least some people who agree with me on this. Online games are serious business. |
2012-11-14, 17:41 | Link #282 | |
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They both needed to exit the cave through the same exit. |
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2012-11-14, 22:01 | Link #283 | |
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The other option just escorting her to the ambush and then leave her to die doesn't sound like him either. Did he not make a point that he's not going to let party members die on him? I don't think he'd see her there and then say "have fun dying, see you." Getting involved with him caused her a lot of trouble, the least he can do is follow this through. It's not like he has a plan to get up that tree so a detour could lead to some much needed help. Right now Kirito doesn't have a plan so much as simply having a goal. Find out if Asuna is at the top of that tree or not. Could go on his own, but seems like it'd be slow going especially since he'd be stuck having to risk his body getting taken out when he inevitably has to log out and eat. While going with Leafa he can help out a friend, maybe get information from leaders of groups who might have more information about getting up that tree, and keep what help he does have right now. Can always just treat it as part of how SAO changed him. You have a friend in trouble, you help them out. It's how you stay alive in that kind of world. Besides we forget the most important reason. What kind of example is he setting for Yui if he just leaves Leafa to get killed in that ambush? His respectability is always on shaky footing after that "joke" he pulled earlier .
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2012-11-15, 13:41 | Link #284 |
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I liked every episode released until now, the only thing bothers me is that Asuna knowing the password to that door locking her, where do she go, its too high and if she falls, she dies and what happens if she dies. Does her condition in hospital turns worse or she respawns in her home city !?
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2012-11-15, 14:04 | Link #285 |
Payback is a b*t#8, huh?
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Asuna is in a situation where if she escapes that door, she'd be caught no matter what as Sugou(?) is basically a Game Master with all the codes and resources at his disposal.
Asuna is being very wise and courageous during this past 2 months - she ENDURED. She held her self esteem and dignity as Sugou harasses her verbally and physically. That's the strength in which Asuna is characterized throughout the serious. This also begs the question as to why so many of us fans(?) are raging with the fact that they SEEM to think Asuna turned into a fragile princess that is in need of a rescue? She is in a dilema where NO MATTER WHAT she does on her own the captive will always have the lead because SHE IS IN A GAME in which the captive is the GAME MASTER. Asuna did everything right in from the start and it was to endure and NEVER submit to his wilms and him wanting to have sex. She never gave in to the torment in order to have a few hours of days of peace. Other hostages would. They'd either be submissive to get some sense of peace, lose hope, or commit suicide. Asuna did neither of that and even went as far as taking the course of memorizing the password in which WHEN/IF that opportunity presents itself, she'd use it. Anyways, I'm basically saying that this Asuna is what we all know and love. A timid, shy, anti-social girl from EPISODE 1 to a self-deciplined, resolved, loving, outspoken, brave woman that fought alongside Kirito and was Vice President of the Knights of Blood. Leave Asuna alone!!! XD |
2012-11-15, 14:49 | Link #287 | |
Payback is a b*t#8, huh?
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She probably used this game as a way to escape and try changing herself to become stronger (as she crossed her arms after her cloak was unveiled and the boss was slain during Episode 1). |
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2012-11-16, 08:33 | Link #290 |
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Join Date: May 2007
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I really need to ask, why are you guys such in a rush for him to race towards the world tree as soon as possible? Consequence or not ALO is clearly not kind enough for you to race towards the end game with only a few trinkets to support you let alone comrades.
If an entire ingame population could barely scratch the surface of that world tree what makes you think that Kirito can do it single handedly? Kirito could join a high ranking team just so can he can get closer to the goal but then he'd have to deal with the backstabbing that comes later if the grand prize ever comes within a sizable reach. This troublesome dilemma could easily be solved if he could get in touch with a hacker but of course this isn't Yureka. No matter which way you spin it gathering a proper team and resources to challenge the world tree is going to take time, whether he will make it before the deadline time will only tell.
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2012-11-16, 08:56 | Link #291 |
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The complains are not really about getting to rush Kirito to the top ASAP, it's about Kirito not showing enough urgency on the matter.
=== You know, for some reason I'm now getting this strange thought that Kirito is portrayed as this mysterious guy with hidden agendas and is doing things to set his plan in motion, and ultimately to get everything falls into place in the end just as planned, King of Bandit Jing-style. Kirito seemingly not showing too much concern over Asuna is probably because of this confidence that everything will work out just as planned.
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2012-11-16, 14:23 | Link #293 | |
Payback is a b*t#8, huh?
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He is not putting uncessary stress on himself and try to take advantage of the situation that can help him move forward; such as helping a faction in hopes(?) of allying with them to tackle the World Tree? |
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2012-11-16, 18:34 | Link #294 | ||
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Someone complain the soup is not salty enough and someone else poured a whole jar of salt. It's annoying. Quote:
He did this with Silica once, why not now.
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2012-12-21, 12:44 | Link #296 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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I loved this episode. Dat bridge battle.
Salamanders are cool. They're definitely my favourite race. I'd definitely roll one if I could play ALO. *deep sigh* Eh, that seemed more like a transformation than an illusion; nevertheless, it was still awesome. Quote:
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2013-01-07, 17:10 | Link #298 | ||
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Kirito's philosophy (basically : "don't be an a-hole just because you can get away with it") is, of course, spot-on. I happen to agree that the world would be much better if everyone stuck to it. But it still doesn't change that it's only about a game with no serious consequences on one side, and a VERY SERIOUS situation on the other. It's absurd to compare someone being "out of character" when there is such a discreptancy between two situation. Basically, this ep is trying to make us feel the pressure about some game-related event, while there is the life of someone on the line elsewhere. It just comes of as... grotesque. I was sure pissed as hell when some guy ganked me in WoW for the lolz. Ganking someone for the hell of it is certainly a dickish move. But if someone had a daughter missing and ganking me could help to get information about her situation ? It would actually be only sane thing to do, regardless of being usually nice nice - in fact, what would be criminally dumb would be "no, I can't kill your avatar in a video game because that's not nice". Seriously... As a side note, I find this the situation of this speech a bit ridiculous considering how much FUN he had just before "killing" opponents, showing he perfectly know how trivial it is to be "killed" in this game. In fact, I could have totally went with the "PTSD" way, with him unable to kill people "for fun" due to long-lasting and understandable trauma after SAO (in fact, I would have much preferred the show to go down this route, there is far too LITTLE trauma from people having lived this ordeal). It would be kind of a broken mind, and rather relatable. I could also have went along the "planning" idea, with him thinking "if I help them, I get TWO races as allies, that's a good plan". But the whole dive into fairyland show him FAR too light-hearted and easily distracted for someone who has his wife life on the line. He should at least show some angst - or the serie make it clearer that he's only putting a façade. |
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2013-01-07, 18:06 | Link #299 |
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Wisconsin
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... An odd thing to bring up again so late in the game.
I dunno if you've seen the rest of the series yet, but Spoiler for future ep spoilers:
But nothing changes the fact that Kirito isn't the type of person who will hurt his friends for his own personal gain. Especially for a SLIGHT chance that the other side might be a little better to help you in your quest to find the source of a blurry photograph of your wife. I know it's hard to seperate audience and character viewpoints sometimes, but Kirito's reason for looking is based on some really flimsy evidence, and there's no indication from his pov that his quest is anything more than a fools errand to distract him from his powerlessness IRL. (It of course, all works out in the end, because fiction, but still.) Asuna's life may be on the line, but he doesn't know that.
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2013-01-08, 12:16 | Link #300 |
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Well, it's actually pretty "not late" for me, as I usually see series years after they are released ^^
I rarely see series which aren't already complete, as I hate to have to wait for the next week But my entire point was that the scales are so disproportionate that the "betrayal" of people in a game is just a non-issue, just like if someone fall in the water and there is a rope next to you, you'll just take it and throw the end to the person who has fallen, and you will certainly not think of it as "rude" or "a theft" at this time (while you would think that if you'd just take the rope in a different situation). And yes he has only flimsy evidence at that point, but that's not making his behaviour any more logical. First, he's (supposed to be) in a very stressful and rather desperate situation. When you're under such pressure, the reality is that you simply don't care about irrelevant side stories. It's just not realistic to see him bantering and playing around, regardless of it being what drives the plot forward or not (it WOULD be realistic if everything was a plan, and as such he actually HAS his mind on the issue at hant, but even if it's the case, it's not properly shown in the last few episodes). Second, if he's not even sure Asuna is up there, then on the contrary he should be even MORE pressed for time to check if it's the case - because if it's not, then all the time spent in ALO is just wasted. It's actually counter-productive to use the "he isn't certain Asuna is here" as an argument to rationnalize his apparent carefree behaviour, because it actually is even more illogical for him to do so in that case. I think what we have here is simply a case of bad adaptation or sloppy writing. |
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