2007-11-26, 15:02 | Link #61 |
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Well gundam is just a japanese concept of the future world or gundamXreality. The truth is, building a large solar pillar up into space is bull, a pillar like that cant stand on the gravity of space
Secondly, theres a new technology where you can use fission cores which produce 100 times the energy of a nuclear reactor, but the problem is that its very difficult to build with the current technology. Third, rather than using space technology to build solar space stations, near in orbit, theres a large methane gas cloud that can be harvested for energy. Fourth, nuclear energy cant be used in different countries besides first world, which means it is not very fair because the first world has better energy production and that the rest is not trusted to use because of the use of nuclear weapons(so they say in which to monopoly) Fifth, Nano technology Gundam concept has lots of contridictions where its not viable, its just a point of view and nothing else to be taken seriously |
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Sure, 00 could solve the energy crisis with fission, but what would be the point? Solar energy and everything around it is key to the plot, the background, and the technology. It'd be a awfully short series if energy was so cheap that government couldn't meter it. It would also keep the mega-blocks from forming. Quote:
And again, what would be the point? Gundam is very much a SPACE anime; even G Gundam and 00 had critical scenes in space. Never needing to go beyond the atmosphere would cramp the literary necessity. Quote:
Previously you had been giving reasons why the 00 setup is impossible; this actually goes against that. If nuclear power is still no-no (even though it actually isn't; civilian nuclear reactors under close inspection are located in various countries around the world I believe), then solar power is an alternative that would be acceptable to the most powerful nation, especially since energy distribution would still be theirs. Quote:
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2007-11-27, 04:53 | Link #64 | |
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Might want to read up on these to learn more about how Space Elevators work, and how seriously the concept is being examined today: http://www.spaceelevator.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator http://www.space.com/businesstechnol..._020327-1.html http://www.space.com/businesstechnol...or_040629.html http://www.liftport.com/ http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2000/ast07sep_1.htm In fact, a simple search on "Space Elevators" will provide much fruit if you're trying to find information on the underlying concepts of a space elevator.
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2007-11-27, 06:39 | Link #66 |
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Just great... Here we go again. Historically first it was fission power, then it was genetics, and now its nanotech...
Nano technology isn't some philosopher's stone, it can't create energy because it follows the first law of thermodynamics. You are just throwing the term around with complete disregard of its limitations, yet in the same time claiming Space Elevator's limitations as insurmountable. Feel free to argue the difficulties of Space elevator construction, but to claim nanotechnology as superior and magically all-powerful is entirely unscientific. Worse, it is groundless.
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2007-11-27, 06:52 | Link #67 |
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I wouldn't jump the gun on nanotechnology because the technology is so unknown.
It'd be like talking about Star Trek style atom materialization technique. The potential is there, but right now, it's nothing but fantasy. Can't put a finger on technology that doesn't exist yet. But I have to say that the reckoning of energy resources will have to come eventually. I'm thinking hydrogen usage for extremely efficient hybrid-style cars is the thing of the future (obviously using a much better engine/power/energy system than the fledgling system now). Mine the moon for fuel! |
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Similar with the gas cloud idea; there's no way it would ever be viable to fly a plane into the upper atmosphere to collect gas. The energy cost to collect, let alone process, would be incredibally high, and even the most extreme harvests would bring back marginal energy. When compared to building a fleet of solar panels in the deserts of the world, or tapping much closer, natural, and renewable energy sources, simple economy will take effect. Quote:
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2007-11-27, 22:55 | Link #71 |
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well, I'd hardly call it more of an undertaking than a space colony. certainly the same types of technologies and resources are required to create it, and unlike most of the colonies (non asteroid/planetoid based at least) there's an actual major material gain for the governments creating them.
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2007-11-30, 01:10 | Link #72 | |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanotechnology Theres still sub atomic particles that is not discovered yet, thats why the particle accelerator research must still be done first. |
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2007-11-30, 03:42 | Link #73 |
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I believe you are missing Vallen Chaos Valiant's point: you can manufacture new materials with nanotech, but they will not generate energy by themselves so how are they a solution for a fuel shortage ? |
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These are all concrete ways that nano-tech can help reduce energy requirements, but they can't replace it. No matter how good nanotech gets, a battery will never produce more energy than is put in it (though nanotech and space tech could make it so batteries don't leak energy over time). Nanotech can help reactors make more energy, but they can't make it themselves. Nanotech is a catalyst, something that makes it easier for something else to hapen, not an energy source proper. Capish? |
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2007-11-30, 22:59 | Link #75 | |
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Also that medical technology you stated is hardly nanotech. To bring the subject back to the military/political front. There is a simple reason why china will never try to invade Korea. The cost for an invasion do not justify the gain. Simply put, China is aready trying to keep it's population fed and pacified and a war with Korea (north or south) will simply take too much effort for one tiny portion of Asia with little natural resources and an indigenous people that will fight to the teeth to keep their lands. Even more importantly if China ever gets into any situation where it has to invade another neighbor, you will bet your ass that the Seventh fleet will come in and trample EVERYTHING they can get into firing range. China is not stupid and the last thing it wants is the US taking advantage of the situation. I think this is precisely the reason Japan is in the Union side; if anything goes wrong in the HRL the Union Seventh MS fleet stationed in japan will be there to "intervene" and japan will profit from it. Not to mention the great amount of defensive power should the HRL try to invade. |
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2007-12-01, 01:22 | Link #76 |
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Apparently there are several voices who insist that China is going to act in an entirely suicidal fashion by attempting to pacify most of East Asia.
They point to its 'bloodthirsty past' and several rather equivocal instances of 'aggression', before concluding that China is determined to get revanche for all the humiliation it suffered at the hands of everyone else. They ignore contemporary trends in politics, fundamental shifts in the way nations interact, and above all (as mentioned in the above post), they fail to apply any sort of cost-benefit analysis from an objective perspective, blinded as they are by their irrational concerns. I'm not going to return to the subject, since its clearly ineffectual for me to simply preach to the converted... One point I'm interested in is how it is that Venezuela and the other leftwards leaning states simply flopped over and joined the Union. Given the importance of oil exports, I think they'd be vigorously opposed to any oil embargo... any ideas anyone? |
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p.s. I was born in Taiwan. So for as long as I am being told that my parents have no right to call Taiwan a country, you can't convince me of China's "peaceful" state of mind. And have you read my Signature? That was from a Chinese who said my parents deserve to be killed if they resist China's assimilation in the future. That is the kind of people that rule China.
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2007-12-01, 03:40 | Link #78 |
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A slightly more interesting question. What happened during the transition from an oil economy to a orbital solar one? The intro in ep2. claims that the solar array was completed in "less than half a lifetime". I'm assuming 50yrs if the avg. lifetime is 100 years, that still sounds pretty fast. If so then why is the AEU elevator still somewhat incomplete and also which faction did you think put up their elevator first? (the one that started this whole "solar arms race")
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2007-12-01, 09:26 | Link #80 |
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It was confirmed by Mark (the most knowledgeable gundam fan in the Earth Sphere) that the Union was the first to complete their solar elevator. I believe that was from a magazine, which means it could potentially be over-ruled by a explicit quote from the show, but I can't recall one*.
* Well, technically the HRL was having a 10th anniversary party on their tower in episode one, and shortly thereafter the Union President mentions how the economy only stabilized after the completion of the tower 1o years ago, but he doesn't say it was the HRL tower and by the sound of it the HRL wouldn't have shipped energy to the Union anyways even if it could. My guess is that both were finished in the same year, with the Union getting there first. |
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