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View Poll Results: Hyouka - Episode 22 [END] Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 86 | 57.33% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 39 | 26.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 8.67% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 3.33% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 2.67% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 1.33% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.67% | |
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2012-09-17, 10:33 | Link #81 | |
The Anime Maniac
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The festival used to be held on March 3 of the Chinese lunar calendar, which Japan used to follow. It is now March 3 on the Gregorian calendar. However, there are certain areas of Japan that still follow the Chinese Lunar calendar, hence they celebrate on April 3 instead of March 3. Chitanda's area is one of them. Another reason is because of the peach blossoms as stated below (yeah, they're peach, not cherry). A quote from the first link: "Momo-no-Sekku used to be held on the 3rd of March according to the Lunar Calendar, though today it is actually not until early April that the peach blossoms begin to bloom, and that is how the name of this festival came about." P.S. I got part of the info from Japanese Wikipedia as well, which is more accurate than English Wikipedia. And I can read and understand Japanese fairly well
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2012-09-17, 10:38 | Link #82 |
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Oreki doing Chitanda a favor.
The doll festival sure was a lot of fuss. Things weren't exactly going according to plan. Wow, Chitanda really looked amazing. Oreki certainly noticed that! The bridge construction thing messed up their planned route. Seems like it was done on purpose. Well, it did make the procession even more stunning. The only thing missing in the end was Oreki's confession to Chitande under that sakura tree. Now that would be a perfect ending.
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2012-09-17, 10:59 | Link #83 | |
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2012-09-17, 11:19 | Link #84 | |
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I remember being underwhelmed by the first episode, almost bored by it even but when I watch it back now it's actually pretty amazing to see how far these characters have come. As for the ending - Beautiful. Sublime. Superbly executed. They completely had me at Hotarou's "confession", I was mentally fist pumping for about 2 seconds. But even so I didn't feel let down because the possibility of it happening in the future is very real, and that's good enough for me. |
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2012-09-17, 11:57 | Link #85 | |
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2012-09-17, 12:37 | Link #86 | |
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Back to the episode, yeah, this is one beautiful episode and a very fitting (hanging) ending for this series. Furthermore, I like how both Houtarou & Eru were directly “aiming for the kill” AKA marriage. Eru was basically explaining to Houtaro about everything he’ll get in case he decides to take her as his soulmate, while Oreki was having a thought of proposing her after hearing that. That’s right, guys, “going out” is boring! If you want true adventure, GET MARRIED! All in all, I rarely gave a 10/10 point to any anime episode, but here goes one.
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2012-09-17, 15:54 | Link #90 |
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I agree with this observation. The blush and the lame out-of-place line about it getting cold was the tip off for her, and I think Chitanda can read Oreki like an open book. Which was why she immediately smiled and corrected him. I think Chitanda took a real risk talking about her fate, and its constrained horizons. Oreki was too awkward to say what he really felt, but I think from the uncompleted thought and blush, she knew Oreki accepted who she was. The wind gusting up and stirring the cherry blossoms was nature confirming what they both knew on the most fundamental level; hence Oreki's smile.
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2012-09-17, 17:22 | Link #91 |
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Goddammit, he totally had me. I was applauding him for being so bold, and it was just a daydream? Still, while Eru thinking of her future like that is expected, seeing how much of it was decided at birth, I was surprised that Houtarou was thinking in such terms.
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2012-09-17, 17:45 | Link #92 |
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Wow. Well. They really pulled out all the stops on the season finale, didn't they? And that was well worth it, because this was a beautiful episode, absolutely.
In the final analysis I think Hyouka was never actually a mystery show, but really a coming of age / slice of life show with mystery trappings. What the show was really about was character development, as we see Houtarou's character change throughout the course of the series. |
2012-09-17, 18:45 | Link #94 | |
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And in this case, the guys developed more than the girls, it seems. Maybe Eru's development was being attracted to this outsider Oreki, gradually coming to admire his strengths, and finally realizing he could be the right man for the job of Chitanda Eru's partner. Did Mayaka develop? I'm not sure, but I found her pretty vivid and interesting throughout: dark but able to receive light; prejudiced toward Oreki but open to seeing the good things he did. Natural and honest. I can't help thinking that the brown-haired guy who got the route changed might be another candidate for Eru Chitanda's partner, perhaps one favored by her parents. But that's a fan-fic rather than part of this story, I guess.
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2012-09-17, 19:13 | Link #96 | |
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Moreover, as you eluded to, this approach take time, and need to be planned ahead. Even with 22 episodes, the showing rather than screaming character developments at the audience only apply mostly about Houtarou, as I said when I made the same observation in the general thread. Take Eru for example. Someone probably still argue that she didn't change at all. We only got a concrete change when she explain herself in this episode. My impression is that most of the authors doesn't have the luxury of knowing that their series will get continuation beyond the first book. So they cannot plan ahead that far. |
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2012-09-17, 19:42 | Link #98 | |
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When light novels are typically animated, the focus is usually to take advantage of the visual medium to make an "anime experience" out of the book. So a lot of the subtleties of the prose may be excised in favour of things that are flashier and "more anime". (The sorts of works that are chosen for anime adaptation in the first place are usually those that match this best.) I think that happened to a degree here too, but they chose a work that was deliberately understated and character-focused, and allowed it to remain so despite what would probably seem like the better judgement of the industry. They can only really "get away with this" because of the players involved; they know that people will give the show a chance just because of the director, writer, and animation production company. Despite having some nods to popular traits (and the subject matter itself isn't so far removed from your anime norms), this is still pretty close to an "arthouse anime". Even if other companies may want to make works like this, I think the number who could actually pull it off are few (not due to skill, necessarily, but due to a lack of ability to get the needed funding to "do it right" due to the fear of it being a total flop). So yeah, I think it is risk aversion on both levels -- the way the source material is generally written, and also the way anime is generally produced. Even with the apparent success of this show, I doubt that we'll see many copycats; this isn't the sort of thing where producers will randomly bet on lightning striking twice.
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2012-09-17, 19:58 | Link #100 | |
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I almost don't want to ask: and what did you see...?
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