Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (ver 2 old)

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Haha, something like that, yeah (althorugh One Piece is up in more seasons than that and shows no sign of stopping... )

Well, I'm also inclined to believe that if they don't wrap it up this season, it'll either be an OVA or perhaps a movie for the grand finale...

I know. I'm currently reading the manga at the momentand am up to chapter 313 or so and starting to hope that it ends soon.

[Inferno Phoenyx]

I'm also hoping they wrap it up this season mainly because I hate waiting and such.

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by Inferno Phoenyx

I'm also hoping they wrap it up this season mainly because I hate waiting and such.

We all hate waiting. It's bad enough waiting a week in between ep's and these new spoilers haven't helped matters.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

I know. I'm currently reading the manga at the momentand am up to chapter 313 or so and starting to hope that it ends soon.

Not a chance. Oda has mentioned that he's only half-finised so far...

Code Geass is good - among the better stuff I've seen these last few years, no doubt - but it shouldn't beocme too much of a cashsow - or a dead horse, even... . So I think it's better if thye just wrap it up here...

But I did say that I wouldn't mind other Code Geass-series set in the same universe, sorta. That would for sure make Code Geass the new gundam though...

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Not a chance. Oda has mentioned that he's only half-finised so far...

Code Geass is good - among the better stuff I've seen these last few years, no doubt - but it shouldn't beocme too much of a cashsow - or a dead horse, even... . So I think it's better if thye just wrap it up here...

But I did say that I wouldn't mind other Code Geass-series set in the same universe, sorta. That would for sure make Code Geass the new gundam though...

This is the same Sunrise that's making another bloddy Mai Hime though. Never discount the possiblity of them flogging it mercilessly like a cash cow.

[Inferno Phoenyx]

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

We all hate waiting. It's bad enough waiting a week in between ep's and these new spoilers haven't helped matters.

True that and with the upcoming episodes and how things are going, I sense an emo Lelouch for several episodes or so.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

That's like asking people to not be racist to aristocrats. Immortality is not a race, it's a status. A status that isn't constant, nor does it change much about your life besides NOT dying. In fact, being immortal is actually discriminating against the mortals, since you live while they die.

So having more money is discriminatory to poor people?

Your argument boils down to this; That it isn't "fair" for Immortals to live when you yourself can die. Thus this is merely jealousy, and thus a demand that immortals should die is no better than Witch-burning.

Indeed, Witch-burning IS the result of such arguments. Someone has something you don't have, so you have them murdered as revenge.

Saying immortals should become mortal, is to demand that someone need to die for your personal satisfaction. "If I can't have it, no one can!"

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

So having more money is discriminatory to poor people?

Your argument boils down to this; That it isn't "fair" for Immortals to live when you yourself can die. Thus this is merely jealousy, and thus a demand that immortals should die is no better than Witch-burning.

Indeed, Witch-burning IS the result of such arguments. Someone has something you don't have, so you have them murdered as revenge.

Saying immortals should become mortal, is to demand that someone need to die for your personal satisfaction. "If I can't have it, no one can!"

Yep. Just like how the Romans would posion the well's when they got driven out. Its just being spiteful.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

This is the same Sunrise that's making another bloddy Mai Hime though. Never discount the possiblity of them flogging it mercilessly like a cash cow.

Hmm. Well, I can understand the logic behind it though; why change a winning recipe ? <_<.

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

We all hate waiting. It's bad enough waiting a week in between ep's and these new spoilers haven't helped matters.

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You're right of course. Now that the pace is picking up and we're left with several sensentive situations left of hanging (Kallen's situation, Shirley's situation, Lelouch's situation and so on), we're all feeling rather.. tense and worried. And eager to get on with it instead of being left hanging at the end of each episode. It wasn't so bad up until episode 8 or 9 I think, but after that...

For myself I suppsoe I should perhaps have left season 2 be until it was finished, but I ain't THAt patient...

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Hmm. Well, I can understand the logic behind it though; why change a winning recipe ? <_<.

Because no matter how good something is if you keep flogging it for all its worth it'll go bad.

Take Mobile Suit Gundam Seed, a great anime. Then watch Gundam Seed Destiny. I dare you to say that it doesn't completely ruin the Seed name and characters. They might of well have renamed it "Gundam Seed Homage to Kira and Lacus".

Basically you risk tarnishing a good series/franchises name.

[Daniani]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

So having more money is discriminatory to poor people?

Your argument boils down to this; That it isn't "fair" for Immortals to live when you yourself can die. Thus this is merely jealousy, and thus a demand that immortals should die is no better than Witch-burning.

Indeed, Witch-burning IS the result of such arguments. Someone has something you don't have, so you have them murdered as revenge.

Saying immortals should become mortal, is to demand that someone need to die for your personal satisfaction. "If I can't have it, no one can!"

I approve this post a lot. You don't have to die / people don't have to be maltreated if they are different from the majority unless they did something really bad (and even...). But reality is more harsh since a lot of people are driven mad by jealousy and some other wrong feelings...

Being immortal doesn't hurt other people .

+rep

[Makoto_Must_DIE]

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

But as he said in Ep7 Zero's exsistence is an obstacle to her goal. By that logic he would just give up and go all emo again. For good.

Originally Posted by Daniani

I see a difference between being happy for someone else and being happy about his own personal life.

He will not be around Nunnaly during his entire life (at least, he will not live with her every day).

What is Lelouche's ultimate goal? His own happiness?

What were to happen if Nunally were to die tomorrow? (Hypothetically speaking?) Is he going to shrug it off his shoulders and be like "Oh well, win some lose some?" We already saw what happened in episode 6. Once she's gone his only excuse would be that he's doing everything for the sake of revenge.

Lelouche has a few reasons for his actions. Take then all away then he will have NOTHING. Then we can say that he would be all emo'ed out again.

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by Makoto_Must_DIE

What is Lelouche's ultimate goal? His own happiness?

What were to happen if Nunally were to die tomorrow? (Hypothetically speaking?) Is he going to shrug it off his shoulders and be like "Oh well, win some lose some?" We already saw what happened in episode 6. Once she's gone his only excuse would be that he's doing everything for the sake of revenge.

Lelouche has a few reasons for his actions. Take then all away then he will have NOTHING. Then we can say that he would be all emo'ed out again.

He'll kill himself.

In lost colors if you get the bad end where Nunnally dies he offs himself. I'm pretty sure since the game was made with the help of some people and the fact that they lifted somethings its what his reaction would be.

[Daniani]

Originally Posted by Makoto_Must_DIE

What is Lelouche's ultimate goal? His own happiness?

What were to happen if Nunally were to die tomorrow? (Hypothetically speaking?) Is he going to shrug it off his shoulders and be like "Oh well, win some lose some?" We already saw what happened in episode 6. Once she's gone his only excuse would be that he's doing everything for the sake of revenge.

Lelouche has a few reasons for his actions. Take then all away then he will have NOTHING. Then we can say that he would be all emo'ed out again.

Then why are we talking about Romance and his "friends" in some threads?

Since he doesn't care about everything but Nunnaly, we can close some threads...

[kikit13]

Originally Posted by Pink-chan

Why why?! Why did things have to turn out this way? T_T

Spoiler:

There could be scene which resembles Euphie dying. Shirley will die on Lelouch's arm or probably in hospital.

There are a few suspects: Rolo, Jeremiah or Suzaku.

It could well be Rolo even though I don't wish he will be the one. Rolo is jealous of Shirley and Shirley already learnt of him as a fake brother. Rolo will do anything to get Lelouch as he was too dependent of him. If Rolo is the one, he will be marked for death.

Suzaku will kill her if it's resulted from his Live Geass! Shirley may want to silence him to protect Lulu but ended up getting killed. At the same time, Lelouch couldn't save her as he had his hands full with Jeremiah. That make Orange-kun the least suspect. Or Rolo uses his Geass and causes Suzaku to kill her indirectly. Suzaku wouldn't deny if Lelouch confronted him for causing Shirley's death.

Ultimately, Shirley could be caught in the midst of the uses of Geass by Lelouch, Rolo and Jeremiah at the same time causing her to be "brainfried".

I don't see Lelouch ending up with any other girls except comforting arms of C.C. (no romantic moment). He will end up single. His dream of shooting fireworks with everyone will no longer come true .

i'm gonna seriously stop watching code geass. i don't want it no more...such heartbreaking news...

[Makoto_Must_DIE]

Originally Posted by Daniani

Then why are we talking about Romance and his "friends" in some threads?

Since he doesn't care about everything but Nunnaly, we can close some threads...

I didn't say that. If his friends die of course he's gonna be upset. If Shirley dies he's not going to throw himself off the school and kill himself. Of course he's not going to get his happy ending, but I think he would still, much rather, put other people ahead of his own.

Though, ultimately, his goal is revenge. He WILL get his revenge for those who have died though. That goes w/o saying.

Originally Posted by kikit13

i'm gonna seriously stop watching code geass. i don't want it no more...such heartbreaking news...

Advice for the future:

Anytime a character starts talking about wanting a 'Happy ending' e.g. being able to exist with all their friends, PRIOR to the last couple of episodes (mainly in the beginning) chances are that it's not going to happen. =(

[zalem]

lol. It could still happen. Everyone dies and they all go off to the world of C. Still that's kind of a morbid end...but they'll all be together.

[Daniani]

Originally Posted by Makoto_Must_DIE

I didn't say that. If his friends die of course he's gonna be upset. If Shirley dies he's not going to throw himself off the school and kill himself. Of course he's not going to get his happy ending, but I think he would still, much rather, put other people ahead of his own.

Though, ultimately, his goal is revenge. He WILL get his revenge for those who have died though. That goes w/o saying.

I see your point now

Originally Posted by Makoto_Must_DIE

Advice for the future:

Anytime a character starts talking about wanting a 'Happy ending' e.g. being able to exist with all their friends, PRIOR to the last couple of episodes (mainly in the beginning) chances are that it's not going to happen. =(

It reminds me Tower of Druaga.

Spoiler for Ep01:

I learnt that when a character says he will go back in his town to get married right after a battle, it means he will die during the battle .

About shirley, Am I the only one who thought the music in the background when Shirley told him she will make him fall in love with her, was a hint about this tragedy?

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by Daniani

It reminds me Tower of Druaga.

Spoiler for Ep01:

I learnt that when a character says he will go back in his town to get married right after a battle, it means he will die during the battle .

Reminded me rather of Gurren Lagann...

[bladeofdarkness]

if a character talks about the girl back home
he might as well be wearing a red shirt
or have a name like jenkins