2013-11-06, 11:17 | Link #24 |
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I'm not sure why so many people think this was a talk-no-jitsu moment. I saw it as a you don't know jack about this tug of war in the bijuu dimension jitsu.
It looked to me like Obito didn't know Naruto was pulling a fast one on him. Naruto got him to let his guard down, using his memories as ammunition instead of brute force. As soon as he felt a moment of weakness, Naruto got the tailed beasts out. It was well thought out imo. |
2013-11-06, 11:35 | Link #25 |
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I fail to see how the plot importance shifted from the vicious cycle of war (greater evil) to Obito's childhood crash (mook death?). Yes, she was a victim of the ninja system, but this chapter just makes Obito's pov way too narrow-sighted (more than it is, at least).
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2013-11-06, 12:21 | Link #27 | ||
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i'm not in a rush to have madara's character ruined as well. it might take a team effort TnJ of naruto, hashirama and obito to do it though. kishi's track record with boss villains is upsetting. the only villain who can save this is orochimaru and kishi has been toying with the idea of ruining him recently as well. there's no hope in saving this arc at this point. all we can hope for is the awful war to end and moving onto a good arc with sasuke and orochimaru as the instigators. that or the manga ending |
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2013-11-06, 13:58 | Link #29 |
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What was the point of Madara letting Obito get the 10 tails. Unless his plan is to get all the tail beasts out of the statue and Obito so he can control Obito have him kill him self and then get revived.
Also not sure if anyone noticed but *Spoilers* Obito really likes Rin. |
2013-11-06, 14:50 | Link #30 |
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Obito is truely the worst villan ever, not because of the redeeming, but his entire evil is based on such stupid thing, it wasn't even love, just one sided crush.Even though it was obvious i hoped that it won't go into this direction but in the end it was all about Rin.
i think obito is the character into who's mind and psyche the manga has gone most and every time it gets worse. about the chapter, terrible, waste of panels and why did they had to show everyone as if they were constipated, they fighting or taking a dump, so awful i think the only characters that can save this manga are Sasuke and Orochimaru(although this possibility is very less likely)
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In this chapter i was reminded again that Kishimoto didn't have the balls to let Obito really test if Naruto is mentally stronger than he was. I mean Obito should have killed both Hinata and Sakura, since Naruto was so cocky with Obito in these last 2 chapters he should have experienced the same pain in this war. I was expecting it to happen because the girls can be killed easily if later Obito or someone else with the rinnegan revives them. |
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To push Obito that way.
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2013-11-06, 16:11 | Link #34 | |
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The cool thing about the chapter is that it shows us that obito isn't the worst villain ever. He simple isn't a villain. He hijacked a very elaborate plan to change the world and believe it or not has the resolve to do it, but Rin is literal kryptonite to the guy. Which is fine cuz he was going by this shit the wrong way. Now enter madara who will enact his true plan which is to travel back in time, kill kaguya and eat the fruit
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2013-11-06, 16:25 | Link #35 | |
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in the present day he himself told kakashi that he discovered the truth about that incident. bottom line is he started a war to create a fake world because he could not get with Rin in real life, it's just because of rin, the current latest chapter is the final proof of that. i hoped that something more than that would be his driving point for becoming evil, but alas it's not.
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2013-11-06, 16:43 | Link #36 | |
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2013-11-06, 17:55 | Link #40 |
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This was a phenomenal episode,so glad Obito was defeated and the beasts saved.Naruto is the greatest manga in history.Only other manga that comes close is 'the Guyver' unfortunately it was too hardcore and didn't last.
Now Madara can be shone the light. True evil can only exist in the shadows. |
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