Hayate no Gotoku manga (raw discussion only)

[Wolfnagi]

Okay,
but how about this,
Hata does't know how to make another Sanzenin butler so he just make another "Hayate" shadow to replace it.
huh?
Edit:
Just read revolve,
Vrey funny,HnG style with kinda lots of fan service,
the only thing is not much about Nagi

[Rah]

Saku x Haya! DO IT FAGGOT!

....no?

Awwwww :<


From what I've seen in this chapter, Hayate will definitely find an alternative. He'll probably never choose between em. If Nagi is somehow blood related to Hayate, and her father really is dead, then Hayate could ask Athena to adopt her into family. But what about Maria? Hmm...

Maria is somewhat of a mother figure to her, if not a big sister. Hayate is a love interest, and if that were to cease, then depending on how hard she'd take it, he'd probably become like a big brother. I can't picture Athena taking the role of her mother, or sister... they never had any interaction between them to begin with. No idea how it would turn out.

Perhaps rivalry at start? I don't see Nagi having much chance against her at all. Athena easily beats her on almost all levels that they could compete on.... Magic power (which Nagi doesn't even have, or at least not yet... perhaps... hmhm), physical strength (not even a sweat), smarts (Athena aced all her exams already, and was like that at the age of 7, while Nagi is still attending school. Although she has great potential, she just won't use it... it's best to laze around <3), physical attraction (purely subjective - though, Hayate does prefer mature and developed women), cuteness (current Athena version has no chance, while loli version... tch.. better not compare, else I'll be converted as well! - this is sort of subjective as well, I guess...), games (no idea here, but I think that Nagi has a huge advantage... not sure the value of such a thing though... heh), ummm... what else?

Oh, well.... *sigh*

Time for a little break... lalala

[Wolfnagi]

Nagi does have advantage,
thought not much:
Games (like Rah said)
Otaku (she definitely beats Athena and might even us!)
Friends (this is one thing Athena really lacks of, at least Nagi have almost everyone,take that Athena,the only friend you have is Hina,Machi and Midas,muahahahahaha)

[Lisemer]

You are ignoring the fact Nagi is a hikkikomori (I don't know if that's a moe appeal, but...) and really, she only has 3 friends: Sakuya (is her cousin, so I don't know if count), Isumi and Wataru (primally related to the arrianged marriage) and all others are Hayate's friends...
And anyway, You haven't play eroges, right?
Athena has more potential ( like a eroge heroine: her past, her body, her relationship with the protagonist, etc...) that you think, so don't understimate Athena...

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by Lisemer

You are ignoring the fact Nagi is a hikkikomori (I don't know if that is a moe appeal, but...) and really, she only has 3 friends: Sakuya (s a cousin, so I don't know if count), Isumi and Wataru (primally related to the arrianged marriage)

After this arc, I'd say you could add Ayumu as Nagi's friend.
For some reason, I just like it when those 2 are together. They are awesome for Manzai.

[Lisemer]

manzai is the comedy Sakuya's family likes?

[Rah]

Originally Posted by Lisemer

You are ignoring the fact Nagi is a hikkikomori (I don't know if that's a moe appeal, but...) and really, she only has 3 friends: Sakuya (is her cousin, so I don't know if count), Isumi and Wataru (primally related to the arrianged marriage) and all others are Hayate's friends...
And anyway, You haven't play eroges, right?
Athena has more potential ( like a eroge heroine: her past, her body, her relationship with the protagonist, etc...) that you think, so don't understimate Athena...

Multiple endings.

I'm obsessing over Sharin no Kuni right now. Only 2 endings to go. Hafta skip loads of crap, though.. gonna take another hour or so I guess.. heh~

Originally Posted by Used Can

After this arc, I'd say you could add Ayumu as Nagi's friend.
For some reason, I just like it when those 2 are together. They are awesome for Manzai.

Agreed. I'd like to see Ayumu take care of Nagi if she were disinherited, if Maria left, or just in a pinch. They make a really nice pair. ^_^

[Wolfnagi]

Nagi also have Hina, even though she's more to Hayate's friend,
she still,at least her friends a bit.
Meanwhile Athena only have Hina and Machi so if i included butlers/maids,
Nagi have Hayate,Maria,Saki and Chiharu (Sakuya's maid and also and otaku)

[Rah]

Friends eh? Well, Machi probably is a sorts of friend, or perhaps an ally is a more adequate term to their relationship...

Hina probably considers her as a friend, but Athena on the other hand.....

Guess we'll have to wait for Hayate to save her to see what happens. Perhaps she'll open up?

[zodanhko]

Originally Posted by wolfnagi

Nagi also have Hina, even though she's more to Hayate's friend,
she still,at least her friends a bit.
Meanwhile Athena only have Hina and Machi so if i included butlers/maids,
Nagi have Hayate,Maria,Saki and Chiharu (Sakuya's maid and also and otaku)

What does friends have to do with their capabilities?
Anyway, I thank god, or Hata, that Athena has her distant and silent personalities due to her tragic past and limited in friends. Honestly, I won't want Athena to be that friendly with the others, only to Hayate alone is fine.

@Rah
Beautiful > Cute.
Speaking of cute, I'm still waiting for Athena's genuine smile...Hayate probably did be dead if he sees it. ^^

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by zodanhko

Beautiful > Cute

That's very subjective. Personally, I can prefer one over the other depending on the character. But, anyway, I think Athena has both traits.

Originally Posted by zodanhko

Speaking of cute, I'm still waiting for Athena's genuine smile...Hayate probably did be dead if he sees it. ^^

I think Hayate saw it several times 10 years ago.

[Wolfnagi]

No
it supposed to be like this
Cute>Beautiful
So Nagi>Athena

BTW,
Hayate won't die from her smile
Anyway,currently watching Zero No Tsukaima
Got a theory,
what if the entire Kugimiya Tsundere Legion and that is
Shana,Louise,Taiga and of course,Nagi and their parter (Yuji,Saito and that guy who i can't remember his name)
Gang up and destroy Midas huh
Hehehehehehe,
now that's is interesting,
Game which one will you choose, Athena or Shana?

[zodanhko]

Originally Posted by Used Can

That's very subjective.

Well, shit...XD
I'd prefer beautiful like Athena over cute like Nagi any day.
Athena will be cute when the time comes.

Originally Posted by Used Can

I think Hayate saw it several times 10 years ago.

I'm talking about teenage Athena's genuine smile like she did 10 years ago. Heart attack!!!

Originally Posted by wolfnagi

No
it supposed to be like this
Cute>Beautiful
So Nagi>Athena

Hayate thinks otherwise.

[Wolfnagi]

No,
Nagi be cuter,
Don't you ever watch other Kugimiya tsundere roles,
they eventually be the cutest

[Used Can]

With the exception of Nagi and Yūhi, I personally despise Kugimiya's tsundere roles.

[Wolfnagi]

You the one who despise,
i always vote kugimiya tusndere roles on saimoe league
so i don't know how you felt,

[Game8910]

Originally Posted by wolfnagi

Game which one will you choose, Athena or Shana?

I've been asked this a couple of times, so I'll go through this once again...

Spoiler for exhibit A:

Spoiler for exhibit B:

in the end...after thinking hard about it for 0.000343 seconds I make my obvious pick

Spoiler for the true and only choice:

unfortunately Athena does not come in 2 different flavours like Shana

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by wolfnagi

You the one who despise,
i always vote kugimiya tusndere roles on saimoe league
so i don't know how you felt,

Oh, no, don't take me wrong. You can like whoever you want. I was just stating my own preferences.

[Rah]

Heh. Isn't it interesting how differently we all think. My own preference is easily Athena > Shana.

I just can't stand Shana for some reason. Oh, well.. details, eh? Bai bai for now~

[Used Can]

Indeed, also, even if I like Athena, my favourite female characters in these types of stories tend to be like C.C. or Evangeline.