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Spamamdorf · 2011-11-30, 22:41

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Originally Posted by GundamAce

Naturally. Everything will be in tags.

Well then I'm obviously cool with it, so long as I can manage to restrain myself XD, obviously thats on me though not you XD

VDZ · 2011-12-01, 02:36

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Originally Posted by Jao

By all means spoil away!

Maybe you could use, like, different sections for light spoilers and heavy spoilers?

Agreed. I'm never going to play the remake and it'll probably suck in comparison to the original anyways, so I don't mind spoilers. I'd love to know all the things they messed up, though.

MidoriHiME · 2011-12-01, 18:41

Not SUPER related, but since 999 (and presumably it's sequel) is a giant rip of Ever17 anyway, here's some interesting news:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...cape-adventure

GundamAce · 2011-12-01, 18:48

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Originally Posted by MidoriHiME

Not SUPER related, but since 999 (and presumably it's sequel) is a giant rip of Ever17 anyway, here's some interesting news:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...cape-adventure

Hmm, interesting. So it's basically a "prologue" of sorts. That'll be interesting. Wonder how Aksys will handle it if they decide to translate the sequel (which I assume they will, given that 999 was a surprise success for them).

Though can you really call 999 a "rip" when it's the same writer ripping off his own work? Isn't there another term for that?

rogerpepitone · 2011-12-01, 20:45

Self-plagiarism? Story recycling?

winkel · 2011-12-01, 22:41

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Originally Posted by GundamAce

One new ending, huh? Didn't we already know that 5-6 months ago? Well, either way, there's still going to be some differences in-game. Personally, I'm still wondering what it will be... still have a small hope that it'll either be a Takeshi x You route, or a Drama CD route.

I think it's the first time I saw it painted out like that upfront, before it was implied and such.

I'll be getting the game, but I won't be able to actually play it for a while until work clears...

I am hoping it's one new route (You) with a new epilogue (Drama CD, which is technically not a route, but a continuation). I suppose that plus the rewritting and new art will be good enough for me.

GundamAce · 2011-12-03, 12:52

I read some of the reviews for this version on Amazon so far.

No one's really said whether or not they like the original or this better (though everyone who's used the "fun" scale has given it high marks, while most of the rankings are either 2 or 3 stars), but the soundtrack and the revised text has been generally praised, though almost everyone hates the 3D models.

However, there have been a fair share of harsh critics as well on both of the previous accounts, those who hate the soundtrack and the text (though nearly everyone who hates the remake's biggest complaint seems to be the 3D, not to mention most of them didn't bother finishing it). So I guess you could say reactions are mixed, though that's pretty much what I was expecting to hear. Oh well, at least it sounds better than Code_18 (which even the Japanese hated).

However, I myself will refrain on judgement until I finish it completely. I'll probably end up hating the 3D too, but I think I can bear it.

One last thing- does anyone know if there's a copy of the original script online? I would like to read them (the original and Xbox 360 scripts) side-by-side to check the differences, and playing my PC version at the same time as the remake feels silly.

Spamamdorf · 2011-12-04, 01:16

I kind of had the same reaction the first time I saw the 3D models to be jonest, the same sort of thing I had with the 999 ones to be honest, but since I didnt see as much of the new 999 guys before I saw their models it wasnt as bad, however just looking at soem of them is kinda... e_o, either way though I will be interested in seeing what you think of it Ace XD

VDZ · 2011-12-04, 07:44

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Originally Posted by GundamAce

One last thing- does anyone know if there's a copy of the original script online? I would like to read them (the original and Xbox 360 scripts) side-by-side to check the differences, and playing my PC version at the same time as the remake feels silly.

Not exactly the cleanest solution, but you can download the raw script files and open them in Wordpad or a similar program (Notepad doesn't do the line breaks properly). The start of the files are garbage, but after that is perfectly readable text.

GundamAce · 2011-12-04, 08:01

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Originally Posted by VDZ

Not exactly the cleanest solution, but you can download the raw script files and open them in Wordpad or a similar program (Notepad doesn't do the line breaks properly). The start of the files are garbage, but after that is perfectly readable text.

Oh, thanks for all the trouble, but I've already found a solution to that. Sorry I didn't say anything earlier.

GundamAce · 2011-12-06, 15:49

Okay, I finally caved in, and decided to find out exactly what this new ending is. I didn't learn any details, but I did get a name. Ready to hear it?

Spoiler for New ending:

Spamamdorf · 2011-12-06, 16:35

That actually sounds pretty tight, and might even explain a few of the things that I didnt like about the trailer, definetly something to look forward to then

Von Himmel · 2011-12-06, 20:19

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Originally Posted by GundamAce

Okay, I finally caved in, and decided to find out exactly what this new ending is. I didn't learn any details, but I did get a name. Ready to hear it?

Spoiler for New ending:

I'm so hype about this

I guess this will explain some things that were left in the original games and the reason why they blatantly put major hints on the plot twist for each routes.

Spamamdorf · 2011-12-06, 23:50

left out of the old game? What wasnt explained in the old one? The only thing I can think of is the kick the can thing, and that could be explained on your own anyway, I think it could explain some of the things in the trailer but what was missing from the old game?

GundamAce · 2011-12-07, 12:14

My copy finally arrived!

The OST has two disks, and is 31 tracks long (but has no vocal songs on either CD). There are 7 new tracks exclusive to the Xbox 360 version:

1. Der Kern- Je nach (Der Kern is German for "The Core")
2. Lemurianische Ruine- Klavier- (Klavier is German for "Piano")
3. Kosmisher Wal- Klavier-
4. Qualle- Klavier-
5. Delphine- Klavier-
6. Weiser Hund- Klavier-
7. Karma- Klavier- (I know, how do you make a piano song even more piano-esque? The answer- take away the background instruments.)

Also, "Je nach" IS in this version. Hmm... so what's the True Ending theme, then? Oh well, only one way to find out.

Anyway, I have class now, so I'll upload the OST tonight, probably. I have essays to write, though, so I can't guarantee that I'll be able to play right away.

EDIT: Well, maybe not. Youtube is taking as long as hell to upload for some reason.

Von Himmel · 2011-12-07, 15:08

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The only thing I can think of is the kick the can thing, and that could be explained on your own anyway, I think it could explain some of the things in the trailer but what was missing from the old game?

Yes I was talking about that one. They could give us a more concrete explanation rather than leaving us to explain it on its own, which is as you can see, can be explained with various explanation. Things like the kid's memories is also one of the things that I could think of.

Also, they might give us more character depth than the original...but well, I don't know whether they do that or not in this game ._.

GundamAce · 2011-12-07, 21:58

Got the first half of the OST uploaded on my account... I'll probably get the rest tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RPGMania2?feature=mhee

IMO, the best new remix on the first CD is the new "IBF Notfall".

BTW, little neat note about the CD- on the front of each CD, it has the number of how many tracks are on that CD listed as "Life Reading", like in the game. So the first CD had "Life Reading- 17".

GundamAce · 2011-12-08, 00:31

Okay, I also found a list of the achievements for the Xbox 360 version. Here they are:

Spoiler for Ever17 end game spoilers:

Spamamdorf · 2011-12-08, 16:51

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Originally Posted by GundamAce

Got the first half of the OST uploaded on my account... I'll probably get the rest tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RPGMania2?feature=mhee

IMO, the best new remix on the first CD is the new "IBF Notfall".

BTW, little neat note about the CD- on the front of each CD, it has the number of how many tracks are on that CD listed as "Life Reading", like in the game. So the first CD had "Life Reading- 17".

this is almost definetly my personal bias shining through but for some reason I cant bring myself to like most of these DX Notfall was definetly good though, and the others are interesting sure but for now I prefer the older ones, in other news the 4th chapter of ever 17's out http://www.famitsu.com/comic_clear/se_ever17/ I was laughing even not understanding the japanese, speaking of which, is anyone actively translating these? Because I notice a chapter get translated every once in a while but normally they just seem to be released in english whenever.

GundamAce · 2011-12-08, 18:38

Okay, I just started, and got up to the first choice. Note that my posts will contain end-game spoilers, and are intended to be read by people who've already finished the original PC version. Here they are so far:

Spoiler for Ever17 Xbox 360 Part 1 (End-game spoilers):

Okay, so I want to ask how I should do this. Make a post when I get to every new choice? BTW, I'll be aiming for the Tsugumi Route first.

2011-12-01, 18:41	Link #1823
MidoriHiME Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Not SUPER related, but since 999 (and presumably it's sequel) is a giant rip of Ever17 anyway, here's some interesting news: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...cape-adventure __________________

2011-12-01, 20:45	Link #1825
rogerpepitone Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	Self-plagiarism? Story recycling? __________________ Umineko notes: Various (1-4) Ep 3 (w/ red text) Ep 4 (w/ red text) . My projects: Higurashi Daybreak - in need of translator Higurashi DS Translation - in need of translator Never7: The End of Infinity - Finished! I/O: In progress 12Riven: In progress

2011-12-03, 12:52	Link #1827
GundamAce Traveler of Infinity Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Japan	I read some of the reviews for this version on Amazon so far. No one's really said whether or not they like the original or this better (though everyone who's used the "fun" scale has given it high marks, while most of the rankings are either 2 or 3 stars), but the soundtrack and the revised text has been generally praised, though almost everyone hates the 3D models. However, there have been a fair share of harsh critics as well on both of the previous accounts, those who hate the soundtrack and the text (though nearly everyone who hates the remake's biggest complaint seems to be the 3D, not to mention most of them didn't bother finishing it). So I guess you could say reactions are mixed, though that's pretty much what I was expecting to hear. Oh well, at least it sounds better than Code_18 (which even the Japanese hated). However, I myself will refrain on judgement until I finish it completely. I'll probably end up hating the 3D too, but I think I can bear it. One last thing- does anyone know if there's a copy of the original script online? I would like to read them (the original and Xbox 360 scripts) side-by-side to check the differences, and playing my PC version at the same time as the remake feels silly. Last edited by GundamAce; 2011-12-03 at 13:03.

2011-12-06, 15:49	Link #1831
GundamAce Traveler of Infinity Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Japan	Okay, I finally caved in, and decided to find out exactly what this new ending is. I didn't learn any details, but I did get a name. Ready to hear it? Spoiler for New ending: Spoiler for Are you really sure?: Spoiler for Positive? You can still turn back: Spoiler for Okay, that's enough out of me. Here it is: Blick Winkel Route (not sure if it's "route" or "ending). All I know is that you unlock it after Coco's Route. I'll find out for myself exactly what kind of route it is when I play it.

2011-12-07, 12:14	Link #1835
GundamAce Traveler of Infinity Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Japan	My copy finally arrived! The OST has two disks, and is 31 tracks long (but has no vocal songs on either CD). There are 7 new tracks exclusive to the Xbox 360 version: 1. Der Kern- Je nach (Der Kern is German for "The Core") 2. Lemurianische Ruine- Klavier- (Klavier is German for "Piano") 3. Kosmisher Wal- Klavier- 4. Qualle- Klavier- 5. Delphine- Klavier- 6. Weiser Hund- Klavier- 7. Karma- Klavier- (I know, how do you make a piano song even more piano-esque? The answer- take away the background instruments.) Also, "Je nach" IS in this version. Hmm... so what's the True Ending theme, then? Oh well, only one way to find out. Anyway, I have class now, so I'll upload the OST tonight, probably. I have essays to write, though, so I can't guarantee that I'll be able to play right away. EDIT: Well, maybe not. Youtube is taking as long as hell to upload for some reason. Last edited by GundamAce; 2011-12-07 at 16:24.

2011-12-04, 01:16	Link #1828
Spamamdorf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	I kind of had the same reaction the first time I saw the 3D models to be jonest, the same sort of thing I had with the 999 ones to be honest, but since I didnt see as much of the new 999 guys before I saw their models it wasnt as bad, however just looking at soem of them is kinda... e_o, either way though I will be interested in seeing what you think of it Ace XD

2011-12-06, 16:35	Link #1832
Spamamdorf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	That actually sounds pretty tight, and might even explain a few of the things that I didnt like about the trailer, definetly something to look forward to then

2011-12-06, 23:50	Link #1834
Spamamdorf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	left out of the old game? What wasnt explained in the old one? The only thing I can think of is the kick the can thing, and that could be explained on your own anyway, I think it could explain some of the things in the trailer but what was missing from the old game?

2011-12-07, 21:58	Link #1837
GundamAce Traveler of Infinity Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Japan	Got the first half of the OST uploaded on my account... I'll probably get the rest tomorrow. http://www.youtube.com/user/RPGMania2?feature=mhee IMO, the best new remix on the first CD is the new "IBF Notfall". BTW, little neat note about the CD- on the front of each CD, it has the number of how many tracks are on that CD listed as "Life Reading", like in the game. So the first CD had "Life Reading- 17". Last edited by GundamAce; 2011-12-07 at 22:42.

2011-12-08, 00:31	Link #1838
GundamAce Traveler of Infinity Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Japan	Okay, I also found a list of the achievements for the Xbox 360 version. Here they are: Spoiler for Ever17 end game spoilers: From Cruelty to Wandering- Get Tsugumi's Good Ending Parting Embrace- Get Sora's Good Ending Visual Backup Data 50%- Get a lot of CGs Visual Backup Data 75%- Get more CGs Visual Backup Data 100%- Get all CGs American Joke Master- Hear all of Coco's jokes Ninja Master- See all of Sara's ninja techniques From Confession to Abyss- Get You's Good Ending From Journey to Hope- Get Sara's Good Ending Chance Meeting to Harmony- Get Coco's Ending Complete Despair- Get Tsugumi-Sora's Bad Ending Lonely Stagnation- Get Sara's Bad Ending Eternal Loss- Get You's Bad Ending Secret Achievements Releasing the First Eye- Clear Takeshi's Routes Releasing the Second Eye- Clear the Kid's Routes Releasing the Third Eye- Clear Coco's Route I Want to Eat White Rice- Reach the party scene in Takeshi's Route Truth in the Mirage- Discover Sora's secret Truth of a Fortuitous Meeting- Discover the secret between the Kid and Sara Exposed Truth- Discover the hidden secrets of Takeshi and the Kid Inherited Truth- Discover the secret behind You. Illuminated Truth- Discover the secret behind the Kid Perfect Viewpoint- Get the Blick Winkel Route Ending Last edited by GundamAce; 2011-12-08 at 00:47.

2011-12-08, 18:38	Link #1840
GundamAce Traveler of Infinity Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Japan	Okay, I just started, and got up to the first choice. Note that my posts will contain end-game spoilers, and are intended to be read by people who've already finished the original PC version. Here they are so far: Spoiler for Ever17 Xbox 360 Part 1 (End-game spoilers): -Karma is still the title screen. We see a side view of one of LeMU's levels rather than the whole thing. -Overall, nearly all the text has been rewritten to accomodate for the new progression of events. -Rather than Takeshi's "So traquil" monologue, the game opens with him reading a pamplet about LeMU. Like the manga, we see Takeshi's friends, Suzuki and Satou (who Takeshi humorously calls "Friend A" and "Friend B"). Suzuki was the one who invited him and got the tickets. Takeshi retorts that the only reason he was invited was because he couldn't get Sayaka (a girl who Suzuki likes) to come with him. -Takeshi sees Tsugumi on the boat as well, in her MyunMyun costume. -Bizarrely, the "Where is Heaven?" plate has been replaced with a stone with fake hieroglyphics carved into it. On it, Takeshi sees Coco's carving- six people with two animals. He dismisses it as a kid's prank. -Cue Tsugumi-Coco-Pipi CG. You can hear Tsugumi grunting in frustration rather than asking Takeshi to get Coco off. -No perspective switch occurs between Takeshi and Hokuto. -Like the manga, Takeshi gets distracted by them too long, and so is stuck right in front of the elevator down to LeMU while his friends get on. A staff member (who is probably Sora, as that voice sounds a lot like Hiroko Kasahara) tells him to wait. -The elevator is standing, like the original game, but now has some holograms in order to show the guests while they wait. -First time seeing Coco in 3D... it'll take time getting used to, but it's not so bad that I want to barf. -Sora's dialogue is virtually unchanged, but she explains the attractions of the park. There's a new one on Ersteboden that has a restaraunt and a view of underwater through glass windows. -Coco asks Takeshi the same way, though he notably whispers to her this time around. -Fortunately, all the voice actors sound virtually the same as they did nine years ago. Okay, so I want to ask how I should do this. Make a post when I get to every new choice? BTW, I'll be aiming for the Tsugumi Route first.