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Certainly, the Britannians were more ruthless, even eager to gun down civilians, but other than that, it's not really that much different in essence from Fallujah. I'll reiterate that an order to level a city is very different from one ordering the death of every man, woman and child within it.
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2007-08-03, 17:13 | Link #1045 |
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Just in here for a quick comment:
Lelouch had intended to ruin Euphemia's reputation one way or the other during the Special Administrative Zone commencement. It was only after what she said (I don't know how her comments triggered something in Lelouch's mind, but it did) that forced a change of opinion. Who knows, Lelouch could've played her for a fool even after accepting the proposal... but it was pretty clear what he intended. He had originally planned for Euphemia to be Geassed to shoot him, therefore causing a ruckus since the Elevens would not tolerate such a betrayal. And even as Lelouch became enraged, he really showed his feelings about what Euphemia had done (loathed it, felt betrayed by her, etc.). The whole affair was not so much an accident as was the person who suggested the plot head in this direction. |
2007-08-03, 22:31 | Link #1046 |
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People, people. Lets just accept the fact that the ends justify the means. I mean in Code Geass. yeah. We know that all of LL's actions have got to their preferred ends. alright, one can argue that Euphemia gping crazy and killing people wasn't exactly what he expected but us Juyniled said, he wasn't exactly going to support Euphie.
Why does everyone question LL's ations. I mean look at Cornelia. She is the 'best' and moralistic and neither is Suzaku. Everybody uses force in the end, mostly voilet hurting force but hey, thats how the world is. |
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2007-08-03, 22:38 | Link #1048 |
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yeah. why not have the SS going around. Any way, I disgaree with your view to Cornelia. True in the start she could give a .... about elevens but as the series progressed her realtionship to Suzaku improved and her attitude to elevens. She knightened Suzaku in the end after all
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2007-08-03, 23:11 | Link #1051 |
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He fully planned to, but he changed his mind at the last minute. In fact, Lelouch pretty much gave up on most of his plans then and there. He was at enough ease that he was even willing to tell Euphemia about his Geass power - which is exactly where everything went to hell in a handbasket.
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2007-08-03, 23:40 | Link #1053 | ||
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As for the weakness in Jagdpanthers comparison, I've already stated it. How on earth is Lulu like Hitler? If you had bothered to read the previous posts, you'd notice was that he compared Hitler to Lulu because both gave hope to people, but unfortunately, the mere fact that you have to choose Hitler out of dozens of potential war personnel who did give hope to people (ie. look at my list previously, I can't be bothered to explain things again) is kinda telling don't you think? It's not a casual reference so much as it is a specific one. So again, why Hitler?
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2007-08-04, 01:56 | Link #1055 |
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Now I know why you hate Lulu that much and why you can't see his belief (agree or not, only recognize is fine, but no, you even can't see it, that's why you said he ONLY fight for himself and his sis). The reason is: You dont give a damn about the RIGHT OF THE WEAK !! What about the right to decide whether they should fight to protect their freedom or should surrender ? What about the right to choose their own Gov ? Because they are invaded, the true owner now become terrorists ? The civilians who support the resisters (the vast majority of Japansese) now become law-breakers, aka need-to-die criminals ? So just because Britainian is stronger, it is not a traitor to kill your leader (let alone your father) who doesnt want to surrender without caring about others ideas ? Just because the country are invaded and is forced to have a new ruler, it is not a traitor to kill your compatriots who want to resist and get back their rightful freedom ? Just because someone has enough arms to crush the world, they morally become ruler and no one has the right to resist ? Unkind as I am, I don't give a damn about the law of the jungle, but to see it as moral, you are really as amazing as the Emperor !!! |
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Hitler gave people hope by shifting the blame, uniting the country, and riding it of its depression in under two years. He united the Germans against the Jews and other non-pure peoples and fed off their rage to build the German war machine. Lelouch didn't need to put blame on anything. People already hated the Brits and for a justified reason (unlike Hitler's agenda) and he simply used that to bring the people together, and through results of battle, gave them hope. They are fundamentally different and shouldn't be used in relation. A more accurate analogy would come from, say Washington or other Revolutionary war heroes. Given that the American revolution was started on some pretty bad reasoning. |
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By the way, your objection isn't correct. Hitler did lots of different things to give the German people hope; for example, the reoccupation of the Rhineland and domestic economic reforms. There were good reasons why he got elected to power, after all.
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